Can I ask you all something?

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#1 Aug 31 - 3PM
jaycee
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Can I ask you all something?

Do any of you think that I will ever stop being so up and down? right now, im so down, so missing him and missing someone to share the good news about my interview with, so sad that hes cooking dinner for her while my daughter and i fend for ourselves. so damn sad that he couldnt love me and our children enough to get rid of this whore, before she forced my hand and gave me no alternative but to throw him out. i know, hes a liar, a cheater, cruel and heartless, but theres that mask he wears so much, that i miss that illusion, i miss him cooking and taking care of the mundane..and just having his big lug body here, is it crazy, yes, but the pain still lingers on and off, will it ever go away, will i ever stop pining for the illusion, and love myself enough to know he will never change, not for me, for her or for anyone? i pray he doesnt love her, and that his narcississm over takes any real emotions he could have for her, as he couldnt have any real ones for me...............just sad tell me it will go away................

Sep 1 - 8AM
The Girlfriend ...
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Dear Jaycee

I can see by your question and posts that you hae been in agony and felt overwhelming hurt right now. You asked if this up and down, and all the pain will ever subside. I wanted to write to you to tell you YES...but it will take time. I hate all the damage these guys do..leaving women who were once strong and happy and healthy...brokenhearted, and so many families and children emotionally wounded. They walk away...with a smile...as they blame, critcize and leave us wondering what WE did wrong...and what is wrong with US. It is so hard to understand the concept that it is NOT you, Sweetie! There are countless examples of the brightest, most beautiful and smartest women...who have also been fooled by these types of sick pathetic bast*rd pahtological men. Look at Christie Brinkly's life now and the effect her Narcissist ex-husband had on HER and her children. (perhaps a little like your own story?)...Then there is Sandra Bullock, and well, so many others...so does it make any sense to ask 'what was wrong with THEM?...when the common denominator in all our lives (those of us who have experienced this type of relationship...including YOU)....is that our men were pathological and destructive. You are NOT at fault for his behavior...nor do you have responsibility nor control over anything he says, does...or 'feels'. (not tat they can really *feel* anything but anger and fear of exposure) It is not you Sweetie. It IS HIM!!! It isn't even this OW (you can be sure he has her fooled too. Things aren't as 'nice' and wonderful as they may appear for her...or at least will not be for long!...If she chased after him...and ended up with him...well...perhaps much later you might be laughing your head off about the 'prize' she ended up with...and it would serve her right! If she got involved with him...not knowing about YOU...or at least being told cr*p about you by him...well, you know now how good HE can be at manipulating and putting on a 'show'. When I gt upset, I try to treat myself as I would a dear friend who was going throught the same thing. I sometimes have to force myself to do things for ME...such as taking bubble baths, getting dressed in something that makes me feel pretty or comfortable, going to a movie, going shopping or out for coffee with a girlfriend...and 3 really important things to help you get through this...eat healthy, get at least 8 hours sleep (hard when you are crying or keep waking up from bad dreams for a while...but you need to sleep)...and some sort of exercise. I actually bought myself some of those funny looking walking shoes and walk ALOT...every day. I have not permanently left my pathological BF...but when I DO walk away for good this time...I intend to be looking sexy and healthy this time...he has hurt me so much...I want to leave an impression on him THIS time...let him watch me walk away strong and looking better than any of his numerous OW...with as much confidence as I can muster. What you are going through is normal for the experience and situation. You need alot of support through this with those who understand the nature of a relationship with a pathological person like your ex. A good conselor can help you understand the dynamics of how THEY operate (these freaks with NPD)...and help you see how it affected you and impacted your life so that you can sort it out...understand it was NOT your fault...and that there was nothing you could have done to change the outcome...HE doomed your relationship...NOT you! And a good counselor can help you regain your confidence and self-esteem through this process...which is a key to your recovery. Some people say the things these creatures do to us...the damage...can ruin our lives and is permanent. I don't believe that. Every bit of knowledge you gain in life...about yourself and others...can eventually be used as a tool to navigate your life so YOU know what YOU want...and can make better choices for your own sense of peace and happiness. Now you are better able to identify pathological behaviors in a man...and in a relationship...and avoid them like the plague. I wish too that these sort of lessons were not so painful...but the pain WILL go away one day...and the wisdom you have gained will shine within you where the hurt used to be...("polish up your character" until you shine like a diamond, as my Dad used to say...I didn't like him saying that, thbought it was trite at the time...and that he did not understand,... but he did...and it it true!)Sometimes it hurts like hell becoming a Jewel among gems! xoxo The phase you are in varies with each person in the amount of time it takes to get through...and move on to the next stage...Your anger is GOOD...and actually a healthy reaction to this experience...you seem to also be going through the stages of grief...sometimes we go through ALL the stages at one time it seems...which can overwhelm you. I am SO sorry for your hurt and pain. This too WILL pass. Big Hugs xo Forget love - I'd rather fall in chocolate!
Sep 1 - 11AM (Reply to #8)
jaycee
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dear jaycee

girlfriend, thank you for all your kind words, and i hope and pray that you are right and things there arent so wonderful and he doesnt think he loves her, i know he thinks hes in love sometimes, but hes not, he doesnt know how to love, he knows he cant help but cheat and prowl for the next best thing. but i also know this girl knows how to play him, she knows how to push and pull, like he does and thats when she has him where she wants him, make no mistake, he still cheats,he just dotes on her more and tells her more and more how much he loves her and never loved anyone that way, oh, i know all his lines. but who knows if he will stay with her for a lifetime and just do what he does best, and she will always think she won. and she will continue to laugh at me........as she has for over two years..........please promise me they will both get theirs........pls........because i am in so much pain right now.........jaycee

Jaycee

Aug 31 - 5PM
blueeyes
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jaycee my heart goes out to u !

He loves the dilusion of HER not her as a person. Now, you have proved to be the stronger (normal) woman and he can't have that. He needs a dumb bitch that won't need anything in her heart. You have a heart honey and its broken. The day to day things is probably the only thing I would miss and that's sad in itself. I don't know ur entire story but I've read some of your posts. You have supported me in my threads so I know the kind of heart you have! He is not good enough for a gift of your heart. If you were to turn a blind eye and stick around you would be filled with rage and hatred. I'd rather get depressed and move on slowly than be a hater. As far as OW! Well, she will end up in your shoes one day. Keep your head up. Email me anytime!
Aug 31 - 5PM (Reply to #2)
jaycee
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jaycee my heart goes out to u

timmy, thank you as i feel so sad inside. and of course i had to run errands, and there they were driving right in front of me going out to dinner as usual, when he doesnt cook they go out to dinner, he never took me anywhere. he goes everywhere with her. im so down right now i could just burst with tears. how unfair, and you are right she will get hers. it may take years but she will get whats coming to her, and he will die alone an old fat used up pig, with the family he threw away not even by his side.

Jaycee

Aug 31 - 6PM (Reply to #6)
Susan32
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Old Fat Used Up Pig...

Thanks for coining that phrase, Jaycee! ;) Over 4 years, I saw the ex-P professor gain weight (it wasn't pretty), a front tire, crows' feet, jowls/double chin... and he always had terrible teeth (it looked like he smoked, or hadn't seen a dentist) I've never seen anyone go downhill THAT FAST. He went from being a guy who could open his shirt to his navel, baring his chest, being tanned, handsome, almost a model (he did strike poses)... to being unsightly. I haven't seen him a decade. I don't think I'd want to. Guess there are no Philosopher Phat Farms, are there?
Aug 31 - 5PM (Reply to #3)
ShaynasMommy
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jaycee

"and he will die alone an old fat used up pig..." OMG, I just realized you just described what my x N looks like today! If I could I would send u a link to his facebook page and you could see for yourself! I checked up on him a few months age (I know, I Know, that's not part of the NC program) and saw all I needed to see and know all I need to know about him now. He is still a pathetic loser, only thank God he's someone elses problem now! Thus the reason I found this site. When I discovered he was calling me Evil on old pics of me in his photo pages, I googled something like why would someone do that?, and miraculously this site came up. The word narcissist didn't even get typed into the search field. Things happen for a reason. Jaycee, he's still bitching about me 8 YEARS LATER while ive moved on, got married and had a kid and a total life without him! If that tells you anything about how SICK they are, you should want to run fast. And we didnt even marry or have kids either. Its crazy
Aug 31 - 7PM (Reply to #4)
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jaycee

shaynasmommy, i hope i am right when i say he will die alone an old fat pig and used up. that is what a man like him deserves. our son was in Iraq, as you know, while he tormented me with this whore, and this whore tortured me, our son came home from Iraq and came to visit last week, my hN never contacted his only son, all he said was, "is this fucking kid going to call me or what?" I said i doubt it, but as sick as it sounds, i was hoping my hN would bang down the door and say listen son, i dont care if you hate me, but i love you and missed you and needed to see you, but guess what, he didnt, and my son didnt even make an attempt to see him at all, he said he has no use for the pos. but as the father, this man should have jumped through hoops to see our son, a brave wonderful young man, any father would be proud to have. so now you know what a real pos this guy is. then our son had to leave asap and my hN knew this, so he called me today and said, i know you think that kid walks on water, but hes not changed, he is still a fucking spoiled rotten kid, bet he didnt even help you pick up the dog mess outside, hes a good for nothing kid, and you think hes so great, well, guess what buddy, he is great and he does walk on water to me, hes honest, loyal, kind, loves his country and adores his mother...........need i say more...........as for my hN, hes a lowlife, living with a bottomfeeding whore.......so whos the asshole now...........

Jaycee

Aug 31 - 7PM (Reply to #5)
blueeyes
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dear Jaycee

He is aweful! I'm sorry for your broken heart. I know how you feel and I'm not even as far along in the maturity as you are. I'm proud of you. How many ppl can say "I'm proud of you" to your ex pig? None! Keep ur head up girl! You are strong and deserve respect. Xoxo. I hope u have a better day tomorrow.