The Beginning of Anger

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#1 May 18 - 6AM
7yeaeritch
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The Beginning of Anger

Awake all night, thinking, I finally realized really for the first time, that the only people I've ever allowed myself to be angry with are my father and my ex-husband. And from that came the realization that I have a right to be angry at my ex. No just because of the way he treated me when I drove all those hours to his house but because of how dispensable I have been to him -- easy to pick up, easy to put back down. Like an object and not one of much value. No person should be treated like that. I have beaten myself so many times for not just going with the flow when he asked me to think about marrying him in February. Now he is in a committed relationship with someone else. How horrible it would have been for me to be married to someone who cared so little about me that they could move on to someone else that quickly. I realize I've always been afraid to own my anger but I have a right to it and as it slowly integrates into me, my smile will become genuine again; I'll become closer to being my actualized self. I'm not talking about some rage. The anger, even now, is a small whispering thing and, for me, I don't think it will ever be anything big; but it will be expressed and owned. So a part of closure for me is the realization that, in the end, he gave me this huge gift. He helped me hit rock bottom so I could start to get up. I remember one of our first conversations, the first time we tried being together, entailed his asking me why I would want to be with him when he was admitting that he didn't know how to form emotional attachments, me scrambling for an answer because I didn't want to tell him that way why I wanted to be with him, that I was only ever attracted to men I couldn't really have in order to try to re-create my father/daughter relationship. I was just about to do it again. A friend (of both of ours) wrote me this week and asked me to come spend some time with him at a camp he's helping run this summer. The last time I saw him, we were talking about me ex and his non-availability emotionally. The new guy (who is really nice in many ways), placed his hand on mine and said "You know that's interesting because I find it hard to be emotionally available too." He told me, right out, and I've been slowly internally wending my way towards him ever since, like a fish allowing itself to be lured in. It took a sleepless last night for me to get out of denial and realize I was getting ready to head down the same path. Work for me to do on me. No concern about hearing I'm sorry or needing anything else from ex -- that's all between him and God. I've apologized for the drama I created in his life (which I did; not as much as he created in mine, but I did and I take responsibility for it). He's still an open sore but he's healing. And I hope for that insight about the feelings laying underneath for everyone today.

May 23 - 4PM
Ladydb123
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My Friend 7

This is truly a process and a life changing journey for all of us. I believe we each move to a different level when it's the right time for us. I am so glad that you keep coming back and sharing with all of us. I know that I am not where I want to be yet. He hoovered on 5/13 by stopping by my house without calling and then an e-mail on 5/14 and I was only his friend (NS), who checked up on him on 5/6. I will miss our friendship but I want to move on and maybe, maybe find another friend that could build a relationship with. My rust level is very low at this time. Yes, I am quiet sometimes however I read many posts I will post when I have something to contribute or add. Take care of you!!!!
May 24 - 7AM (Reply to #18)
7yeaeritch
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It hurts, doesn't it?

It hurts, doesn't it? Yesterday, I went back to playing tennis which I know he an and his OW do regularly, and I couldn't focus and got sadder and sadder as I played thinking of them, probably in Raleigh playing, laughing. I feel like crying today. I knew there would be ups and downs. I tell myself: I've been through this with him before and got through it and even when it doesn't feel like it, if I hold on, I'll get through it this time until it hurts less and less. I think you're absolutely right...when it is the right time for us. I'm so sorry he hoovered you. I'm sorry you're hurting and not trusting. I think my narc's biggest victory would be if I were to emerge from this anything but stronger than I went into it, wiser. Thtat's my plan for me and my hope for you. Be good to you today.
May 23 - 3PM
Jannie In the Sun
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ANGER

I'm glad you are able to allow and feel your emotions and thanks for sharing your process. It took my getting some help to even 'find' my anger and then let it out in a healthy way. My N brought out all kinds of childhood wounds that made the pain even worse. He was a lot like my father, only a bully. That being said, my dad did some things that he didn't know really hurt me and made me feel insignificant and betrayed - and he never validated my feelings. (Nam era Marine). My mother shushed me and was embarrassed if I didn't act perfectly. Those were the things that my N did to me and I think it was like pulling off the scab on a wound that hasn't healed. I agree, rock bottom has forced me to look at myself and find my authenticity and my voice. I hope you are surrounded by good support and this website is a great way to GET IT OUT!
May 24 - 7AM (Reply to #13)
7yeaeritch
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Picking men who have the

Picking men who have the qualities of our parents...hmm, that soundss vaguely faviliar. At least your dad didn't know. Good luck to both of us as we slowly, painfully climb off our bottoms (do you have a process? I'm doing this just as it comes to me as I sleepless snight after night, believing God will put the pieces together for me; if you have an actual process, you're steps ahead of me already). Good luck and huugs!
May 24 - 8AM (Reply to #14)
Ladydb123
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Choices and Decisons

I just keep telling myself that I need to make better choices and decisons about the men I let into my heart, life and world. I am very sure also that my Family of Origin has set me up and also saved me from total disasters with this man and other men in my past. I believe that God's mercy and grace has been with me. I know for sure that I can't fix anyone I can only work on me. The bottom line is I need to love me First. I am still a good, attractive woman that deserves a good partner in my life that wants to share with me and not take......Be good to yourselves my friends, take your focus off of them.......
May 24 - 8AM (Reply to #15)
7yeaeritch
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It's so hard, it's almost

It's so hard, it's almost unnatural for us think, to make wise choices about who we let in when we're almost pre-programmed to choose men who re-create early family negative dynamics. I thinks it take trials (maybe lots of), learning from trials painfully, and putting new knowledge into action. That's work, boy. So much work I can only tell myself to be gentle with me; I'm doing the best I can, I may never get what I "deserve" in terms of a man, but hopefully I'll get what I deserve in terms of me. And you too.
May 24 - 9AM (Reply to #16)
Ladydb123
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I understand

I've been told that pain is a good thing, it's telling us that something is wrong and we need to get some help. I so often believe it's better that I don't get involved with men anymore because even though I know what I want and need I haven't had much luck...... and because I am Woman my emotions can get in the way of the realty of the situation. I don't want a man to complete me I want a man that can meet me on some solid ground. Yes, all we can ever do is our best to heal and move on.......
May 20 - 7PM
Goldie
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Sounds like you are having some amazing insights, 7 year

This is all part of the healing and you are jumping right in with both feet. As painful as this is, the sooner we are willing to look at our part the sooner we move through the pain phase. Good work; keep sharing, this is good for you to get it out, and equally good for us to hear because this type of self awareness helps all of us with our recovery. Thanks for sharing. God bless, Goldie
May 23 - 7AM (Reply to #11)
7yeaeritch
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Thank you, Goldie. You know

Thank you, Goldie. You know I wrote this and was so excited to have had a "breakthrough" and woke up the next morning feeling "so what, it still hurts like crap and I may know I have a right to my anger but how does that help if I can't get in touch with it" and didn't sleep for 2 more days because my stomach felt like their was a knife sticking in it. Friday, though, I recalled how I felt when my ex-husband left and how quickly I get over that when I made myself tally how many times I'd gotten him out of jail, found out he'd stolen my money, owed my parents thousands, was refusing to look for a job, admitted to be a chronic liar. I did the same thing with Narc ex and realized I've been pouring myself heart and money (not money for him, but money to constantly visist him when my money is tight as I have a congenitally ill child whom my ex-husband does not help support) and all I've gotten from him for 7 years is constant nervousness and fear that he would leave, that I'd do something he found wrong. He hasn't shown acceptance, real caring or given me anything (or thanked me for anything I've given him) for at least 5 years. I felt better all weekend. I felt pretty good all weekend. I know there will be ups and downs, so I keep waking up waiting for a down (a slight one last night, but just slight). I hope it means I turned down a new road. My above realization about my anger has segued into yes, I do have the right to be angry, but until I really find a way to deal with the sense of lifelong rejection that underlies it, I won't get to the anger. Boy, growing is a process.
May 18 - 8PM
Ladydb123
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Our Anger is Real

I am so angery right now, I want to beat the Sh..t out of him. I am not a big woman and I have a gentle spirit at heart but beating him up would feel so good. I am so sick and tired of some of these men thinking that they can fix us with their charms, money, promises and sex. I guess when they have No Soul it is easy..... I am anger because I really cared about this man, I didn't put my life on hold, but I was there for him when his times were tough and he was getting beat up. (Cause & Effect). So, I am in the same boat, loving andd caring about a Man that can't love me back.
May 20 - 7AM (Reply to #8)
7yeaeritch
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You're usually so quiet.

You're usually so quiet. Your emotions must be boiling for you to need to express them. Others on here have told me that anger is a key to really moving forward so maybe that means you're on the right path. I think it means that. (My anger is still whispering. I know I have the right to feel it but it's so small.) I worry about you still from your 2 posts about his maybe stalking you. Are you safe?
May 20 - 9AM (Reply to #9)
Ladydb123
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7 - My Anger

Stems primarily from him betraying (my) friendship. I truly took my time in the beginning of us renewing our reconnection 3 years ago because I have trust issues because of past relationships going south. We even talked about trust being earned and not just given and actions being stronger than words. He took advantage of my sincere efforts in being his friend and being a positive person in his support system. He was just so deceitful....and I feel so used. I am also angry at myself for falling for the trap. I have worked so hard over the years to over come many of my issues because I was raised in a very dysfunctional family. I have learned to feel all of my feelings. I don't supress them anymore like I did when I was younger. I am also angry because I am so gun shy now about letting any one else into my world. I am safe. I am very aware of my surroundings and how to take care of me. I don't think he is dumb enough to do anything to me because we have so many close mutual friends. I have not outed him but he doesn't know that I won't in the future. I will avoid any places where we could run into him for now. There is always 911. Hugs to you for being concerned about me. Thank You!!!
May 18 - 8AM
Hunter
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7yr

I'm jumping up and down with joy!!! Not for your situation but for your strength, and your acceptance! Stage one, you crossed that hurtle on to the next!! Yippie for you I'm so proud of you!!!!! Hunter
May 23 - 7AM (Reply to #6)
7yeaeritch
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Maybe we jumped too fast,

Maybe we jumped too fast, Hunter. Maybe I'm back in stage one, but I'm still doing better. Thank you though.
May 18 - 8AM
Happy1
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Anger is a good thing and is

Anger is a good thing and is your best friend right now. Anger keeps us away from the narc and it's so much better than being sad. Get Angry and stay angry as long as possible. 8-)
May 23 - 7AM (Reply to #4)
7yeaeritch
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Happy1 (what an ironic name

Happy1 (what an ironic name considering my issue), evidently Anger is not my best friend -- yet. But I hope I'm getting to where I feel some. I was doing a checklist on subliminal feelings you have towards NC's last night and was surprised how quickly I reacted to the word contempt. That's getting there towards anger and maybe I wouldn't have been able to acknowledge it 2 weeks ago. Thtanks for your support.
May 18 - 6AM
fear for my sanity
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Wow, looks to me like you've gained so much wisdom

It's a rough ride when you've been involved with a N, but sounds like, through all the emotions, sleepless nights and even anger, a new discernment has come about and you have spotted the danger signs early on.Fantastic! I hope this gives you new confidence in yourself and your ability to choose wisely. The hardest thing I have found to come to terms with is being able to trust my own judgement again so I think it's wonderful that you are starting to do that again. May you continue to spot any red flags that come up and hopefully they will be few and far between, because there are plenty of good people out there too. I hope you meet people that will in some way make up for your terrible experiences with your father and N. Take care.
May 23 - 7AM (Reply to #2)
7yeaeritch
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The very beginning of wisdom

The very beginning of wisdom maybe. Thank you for writing me back to support me. Doing this is hard enough; doing it alone would be intolerable, wouldn't it?