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#1 Sep 24 - 3AM
Scoop
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Because

"Because womens work is underpaid or unpaid and what we look like is more important than what we do and if we get raped it is our fault and if we love women its because we cant get a real man, if we expect community care for our family we are selfish and if we stand up for our rights we are loud and if we dont we are typical weak females and if we want to get married we are out to trap a man and if we dont we are unnatural and because we arent deemed responsible enough to decide if, when and how to give birth ...... because we are feminists "

Get angry sisters ....xxx

Sep 28 - 8AM
Qing Yuan
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It took ages to convince my

It took ages to convince my own mother that I needed to get him out of my life. She had the attitude that we give up on marriage to easily these days and that all men are difficult and abusive and that is how life is... Who taught her that way of thinking... men, men’s laws, men’s politics and men’s ideals? But men’s power has perhaps only been a recent event, in the last few 1000 years. I am not sure why abuse and subjugation prevails on so many levels in so many elements of all societies far and wide. Some say that it is because woman once were powerful, initiatives, empathic- perhaps- telepathic creatures. Because women are capable of producing, nurturing and sustaining life they were seen to be important conduits of energy and consciousness. Of course both sexes are equal in terms of reproduction but woman possess remarkable body rhythms linked to the ethereal vibrations responsible for the all-human development. This was recognized and women were respected and given an elevated status in society. (not in a dominating way either) Menstruation, pregnancy, breastfeeding and other soul work can be an extremely spiritual process. It was understood and not taboo but celebrated openly. It makes woman very worthy vessels of enlightenment. The incept Buddhism for example did not allow woman to worship as they were not seen as worthy vessels at all for God’s presence. This was again a man’s decree. Nuns were only allowed to wash the Monk’s clothes and make them food. It was not until today in later part of 20st century that Buddhist nuns were allowed access to prayer and meditation in keeping with their brothers. (Read Tensin Palmo’s book to really understand this subjugation back then) Maybe men were afraid of this innate power. It was never to be afraid of though but I think that with the capitalist movement and modern ideals, these important feminine qualities have been disregarded and broken down to become weak, worthless and of lesser importance. A great tragedy for our children and the whole world really.
Sep 27 - 9PM
NancyM
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Too true

So maybe with multimedia like this we are forming a new movement. Yup, Simon Says we are allowed to do anything we want, that is until we try to. Yup a sad white male world, yet all males are still seen above women. Think it is time to rise. Looks like the Narcs in the system effed it up anyway, could we possibly do a worse job of it? Maybe the meek SHALL inherit the Earth. LOL

Nevergoback

Sep 28 - 9AM (Reply to #21)
hooklineandsinker
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There's a great scene in one

There's a great scene in one of the Simpsons epsiodes. Lisa is annoyed because no one will listen to her about something. Grandpa is annoyed for a similar reason. They are sitting at the kitchen table. Lisa: "It's rotten being a kid! No one listens to ya!" Grandpa Simpson: "It's rotten being old! No one listens to ya!" Homer comes in, goes to the fridge for a beer. Homer: "I'm a white male between the ages of 21 and 49. EVERYONE listens to me!"
Sep 27 - 9PM
almostlydia
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Been angry all my life.

Been angry all my life. It's an old white man's world and until they all die out we will constantly be put at the back of the bus. It was never so outstandingly clear as when i stopped working when my children were born. Even the spouse would slip up and let his disrespect known. Guess he wasn't feeling so disrespectful when he had to pay $245,000 in child support. I have been working on a creating a non profit company called 'WiseWomen' to create this anger and desire for equality again. I actually have a very wonderful T Shirt design that is still on paper. That is how angry I am. How can you not be angry if you read the papers about the stonings, and the acid in the face of girls trying to go to school. How can you not be outraged? Thanks, Scoop. almostlydia

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Sep 27 - 10PM (Reply to #17)
Susan32
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It makes me sick...

In an earlier post, I mentioned an article written by a Catholic housewife/mother of 8. One of the most chilling things she says is "I didn't want to be taken seriously; I wanted to give myself totally... that's what led me to the fullness of faith." When I met the ex-P, I didn't mind that I wasn't being taken seriously. I wanted to give myself totally... and look what that got me... She's incredibly dismissive of women's desire to be taken seriously; she just wants them to be "totally self-giving" and it's like throwing bait to Narcs/Psychs. There's nothing they want more than a woman who doesn't mind not being taken seriously, but wants to give herself totally. They PREY on that.
Sep 27 - 11PM (Reply to #18)
kiwi10
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yeah, i didn;t mind being a

yeah, i didn;t mind being a self depreciating little girl either. my x husband showed me how to be kind to other women and realise their value, by treating me like a piece of shit.
Sep 28 - 6AM (Reply to #19)
Susan32
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Not taking people seriously

I put that woman's quote on an earlier post. It managed to make me SICK and yes-give me flashbacks. My mother is a Catholic housewife, and mind you, she HATED HATED the ex-P!!!! She saw my "I don't want to be taken seriously, I want to give myself totally" attitude and saw that it was dangerous. I suspect she was praying that he and I would NEVER marry. Her prayers were answered.... and in retrospect, thank God!
Sep 27 - 5PM
fooled no longer
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well said!

so well said xxx
Sep 27 - 5PM
kiwi10
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beautiful

beautiful
Sep 27 - 2PM
Susan32
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This sounds like the Ultimate Narc bait...

I went to visit family in Boston this past week. I picked up a copy of The Pilot, a Catholic newspaper. The author of this is a housewife and mother of 8- "I didn't want to be relegated to making coffee all my life. I didn't want to be pigeonholed or limited, and I dreamed of being well-educated. More than anything else, I wanted to be taken seriously. In grasping for all that, though, I discovered what I truly wanted wasn't to be taken seriously at all, but to give myself totally. That desire led me into the fullness of faith." The whole "I don't want to be taken seriously, I just want to give myself" sounds precisely like the words that Narcs/Psychs loooove hearing because all they want to do is take take take. Mind you, my mother is a Catholic housewife, and she thought the ex-P was diabolical. Don't MOST NORMAL humans WANT to be taken seriously? Isn't that why hit-and-run accidents are serious crimes? Isn't that why Narcs/Psychs fear ridicule? Yikes....
Sep 28 - 9AM (Reply to #12)
better off
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That's a sickness. There is

That's a sickness. There is no EITHER-OR. Like you can EITHER be taken seriously... OR you can give to your family. Why can't you do both? How weird. Either way is an extreme. And saying I want to give myself TOTALLY is unhealthy. We shouldn't give up giving in order to be taken seriously, and we shouldn't give up being taken seriously in order to give. What a stupid thing for them to print. She ought to read about the woman in Proverbs 31.. something that sounds like perfection and I can't do... but she definitely sounds like a woman to be taken seriously!! And yes, Susan, that's all a narc wants to hear, because they want to TAKE...TOTALLY.
Sep 28 - 6PM (Reply to #13)
Susan32
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You can only give yourself totally to GOD...

And by "God" I mean the Almighty, NOT the N/P. The D&D made me more religious. I'd go to the Catholic Carmelite chapel down the street, cry my eyes out, knowing God wasn't judging me, wasn't laughing at my tears. I'd place flowers before the statue of the Virgin Mary. I'd gaze on the crucifix and be grateful. Jesus loves me THAT much... He was tortured, He died on the Cross. The commandment "love God with ALL your mind, ALL your soul, and ALL your strength" means... ONLY God deserves total love. Giving one's self TOTALLY to another human being is idolatry. That's what a cult is. "What a stupid thing for them to print"-They got Catholicism all wrong. I hope it gets complaints. Catholicism ENCOURAGED education for women. St. Thomas More made a big deal about girls being educated. There are Catholic female saint books that date back to the '40s and '50s, and female saints are exalted as good students, seeking wisdom, being TAKEN SERIOUSLY, respecting themselves and others... they're NOT doormats. Jesus did NOT teach women to be doormats. NOT at all. Besides, He appeared to the women FIRST after the Resurrection.
Sep 28 - 9AM (Reply to #11)
hooklineandsinker
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I am so proud of my mother

I am so proud of my mother for flipping the Catholic church the bird. She was never very religious - there was a baby girl born before me (I am the eldest) who died and she gave up going to church then and there, out of grief and rage, I would imagine. Then when my youngest brother was a baby (there are 6 of us) he had an accident and recovered so she started going back to church. Then a few years ago the Irish president (a woman!) gave a talk in a Protestant church in Dublin and loads of stupid-ass catholics were freaking out about it. My mother said, right, that's it, you people have been stupid long enough. I'm done. Now she will only ever go to church in Protestant churches even though she was brought up Catholic. Go Mum!
Sep 24 - 12PM
michele115 (not verified)
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I'm Angry Scoop

And it's everywhere, it's been molded into our country's fiber, it's on tv, it's on the radio, it's in commercials, it's in magazines, it's in the myths and the fairytales, it's in the BIBLE!, and I don't know how we undo it.
Sep 24 - 9AM
jen79
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lately when I bought the pill

the man in the drug store said: so you dont want to fullfill your obligation you have for society? Me: Huh? He: you know, the germans die out. Me: :O (paying and going) He: (shouting behind me through the whole drug store) maybe you think about it again, such a young lady like you hahahaha. He was about hundred years old I guess.
Sep 28 - 9AM (Reply to #7)
hooklineandsinker
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I don't even understand

I don't even understand that. What was he on about?
Sep 28 - 10AM (Reply to #8)
jen79
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HLS

Oh thats a typical discussion in germany, that "bad" carrier woman (well which carrier? in my case) dont want to get children any more, and if they do - too late and that only arabian and turkish women get children from the low income families, and that it is somehow our duty to get children. Its a big discussion, we dont have enough kindergarden here, marriage is not even a question so much here as well, you dont date here and get married like in the US. So its all very wierd.
Sep 24 - 1PM (Reply to #6)
Briseis
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OMG!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

OMG!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!! Sorry, I will be laughing about this old dried up coot all day!!! I never think of these things till way after the fact, but you could have said "If you didn't have beef jerky for balls I'd take you in the back room and give you a chance to make more Germans".
Sep 24 - 9AM
Rinalda
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Encouraging

Women have to fight for everything. Men are entitled to everything. Women have to justify and account for their choices, or make do with limited choices. Men justify nothing and are free to choose their path. Women give life and men take it away. This must be why they have to push us down so far. And it's all the worse when women conspire against other women, complicit in the plan. The awareness, support, friendship, and sisterhood on this board is encouraging.
Sep 28 - 9AM (Reply to #4)
2RudeInAK
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Women give life and men take it away ....

About 3 months into dating xNbf (it was off to a fast start), I found myself being the hostess at his father’s funeral reception. His mother, at 93, was re-cooperating from a broken arm. I fell in love with her instantly. I can’t say enough good things about her or the group of her friends that were there to support her. That day I lost count of the number of women who, on the side, asked me: “Why would you want a man?” A few would add – “unless you can’t take care of yourself.” Later I learned it was pretty common knowledge that xNbf’s father was living a double life for decades. His OW would sit by his bedside every Sunday during his illness while xNbf’s mother was in the other room, taking a break from cleaning up after his incontinence. I had actually met the OW earlier. She was talking about starting to date again. Meanwhile xNbf's mother deteriorated rapidly, dying herself 2 months later. It is no wonder xNbf’s attitude is that women are there to serve and ‘suck it up.’
Sep 24 - 8AM
desprathousewife
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BRAVO :)

We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. Well said scoop :) x
Sep 28 - 8PM (Reply to #2)
almostlydia
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This is why we have to start

This is why we have to start demanding more. Last time I checked we were 51% of the population. I have always had a theory about how God made man. Being in the design/construction business, i know that you build the first prototype and then the second is by far greatly improved by the mistakes you made on the original model. Who do you think was the better model, Adam that came first or Eve, the second model? To me it's a no brainer. almostlydia

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