Am I over-reacting or have I've been Narced from the same side?

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#1 Dec 13 - 11AM
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Am I over-reacting or have I've been Narced from the same side?

Some of you may remember I had a problem with a "female" I thought may have been hitting on me...this is what has transpired since. Whether you know the story or not...am I being uptight and prudish or is she playing a mindgame?

I'm about ready to delete her, but would appreciate insight...I don't feel I'm being too sensitive - but this is a very well rounded group.

Thanks...to follow is our correspondence...

From HER:

Hope that all is well with you and your child. I know that you would have told me by now but I was just wondering if I did or said anything to offend you in any way, form or fashion because I feel as if you've been avoiding me.. If so please let me know so that I can corrects my wrongs.. I wouldn't want to lose an old friend like you.. I miss talking to you Girl.. I liked having Coffee with you in the Morning..

Note: (She’d call in the morning and I was drinking Coffee)
Sincerely,
HER

From ME

HER,
To be honest, yes there was something that offended me and I was in no shape to even begin to address it but since you've asked, I don't think it's fair not to disclose although right now, I am not ready to discuss it further in great detail.

The last time we were on the phone, when I said I needed to remove my sweater, you made a comment about how I was lucky the phone did not have a camera.

Initially I was shocked and did not know how to respond because for some stupid unknown reason, I was actually offended but did not want to offend you. I am no longer in that boat. I do not seek to harm, but I will speak my mind.

I have made it clear I am straight. I do not find it exciting, I ain't flipping and I ain't interested in a woman - never have, never will. NOW whether you are a lesbian or if you were an actual man...either way, your comment was inappropriate and a clear indication that I need to be wary simply because I have made it clear where my head is at, I am in recovery from a number of injuries and on some level, you thought that despite my being very upfront about where I stand on the gender issue you thought I would find that flattering?

AND, where do I stand, when someone makes such a comment? Is it testing the waters? Is it to see if I'll bite? WTH?...More disappointing, it seems that there was a MO with this friendship, and that is what most disturbs me because once again, I stick my fucking head out there, with the best intentions, not making judgements, or "discriminating" because someone is "different" from me...look past that, and try to see the "person"...as a "person" and try to have an honest relationship, based on sharing and once again, there is an MO attached. Not cool. And saying someone is different from me - I want to clarify does not mean any less than or any more than...it just means different. And I'm not sure how to express this in the best PC way - but what I am trying to express is that I know many people because of their fucking hangups that would not even associate with someone who is engaged in an alternative lifestyle...probably having more to do with their ignorance or insecurity but I was not one of those assholes...but this particular incident, also makes me understand why someone might avoid that situation because they don't want to feel uncomfortable - rejecting someone's overtures, or hurting thier feelings...NO ONE wants to do that - but then again, how can one not feel on a certain level manipulated or violated when I made it as clear as I could, I'm not flattered, or interested in other women?

Frankly, I don't want to hear, how I misunderstood, I think and belive I understood quite well...slips don't just "happen"

Now, that does not mean I hold resentment in my heart - definately a poor lack of judgement on your part; however, this incident has left me unsettled, and it isn't about some "great big forgiveness" or anything like that - but I do feel that there has been some type of harm and it has hindered my ability to trust. I realize I have certain issues, but under the circumstances, being vunerable - my tolerance is very low, and I am no longer in a position to just "shrug" off offenses for the sake of sparing another's feelings, it is doing that my whole fucking life that has landed me where I'm at.

There is no need to apologize so to speak, I just would prefer some distance until further notice that may be temporary, it may be permanant.

Again, please do understand that there is no harboring of resentment or hatred and I understand people make mistakes but at this juncture, there are too many other things on my plate and I think it best for all parties involved that we just leave it at an impasse.

All the best.

Michele,
After receiving and reading your long letter it comes to my surprise that a JOKE has actually turned into something offensive and I'm being accused of it being my MO. Why, I ask didn't you nip it in the butt rather then dwell on it. I joke with some of my STRAIGHT friends that way and NONE of them take it the way you have but yet I must take into account the state of mind your in; Excuse me but I didn't think of that. If ever we were to talk again I would NEVER joke with you. If I were ever interested in someone I don't hold my tongue. I tell them right upfront. So as you said and I agree there should definitely be some distance!!

God Bless You

Dec 13 - 2PM
Briseis
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Yep, she's a turd :D She

Yep, she's a turd :D She asked you what happened between you, and you tell her, and she insults you again. A turd. She may not want to lose you as a friend, but she also doesn't seem to want to treat you with respect. I can hear the little sheep saying baaaaaaa'aaaaad! :D Analytically speaking, she is blame shifting. "What did I do wrong??" followed by "Well YOU should have done XXXX when I did that wrong thing!!" is classic blame shifting. Narcs do it as a rule. But so do normal people who just don't wanna take responsibility for their behavior.
Dec 13 - 1PM
fedup
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I think Journey nailed it, line by line.

All I can add is that, yes, it came across to me as the classic NON-apology. "Sorry you feel that way..........." (gag) There was a definitely a subtext accusing you of being oversensitive, misinterpreting, etc. Basic blameshifting, essentially.
Dec 13 - 12PM
Journey
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First Impression

Hi Michele, the first impression I got from her response to your message was: "After receiving and reading your long letter..." - passive aggressive negative description of your letter, as if it was such a chore to read "...it comes to my surprise that a JOKE has actually turned into something offensive and I'm being accused of it being my MO" - discounting your feelings and covertly accusing you of not being able to take a 'joke' "Why, I ask didn't you nip it in the butt..." - should be bud not butt - lol! "I joke with some of my STRAIGHT friends that way and NONE of them take it the way you have but yet I must take into account the state of mind your in;..." - passive aggressive again, suggesting there is something overly sensitive or wrong with you compared to other people "...Excuse me but I didn't think of that." - not really an apology, but more an admission that your feelings weren't being considered "If ever we were to talk again I would NEVER joke with you." - passive aggression again - an accusation that you will never have a sense of humor worthy of hers "If I were ever interested in someone I don't hold my tongue. I tell them right upfront." - discounting your perception "So as you said and I agree there should definitely be some distance!!" passive aggressively (again!) attempting to make you feel guilty, wrong and doubting what you perceived was happening. "God Bless You" - as if she controls the universe and it comes off as condescending that you need God's blessing cause you are sooooo screwed up. Wow, everything she said in her reply seemed to me to be a thinly veiled insult and NOT ONCE did she actually apologize and try to ease your concerns about what you felt. I know you told her in your message she didn't need to, but if it was me you expressed that to and was innocent of your suspicions, I would have been mortified and apologizing profusely for the misunderstanding and my insensitivity. Narc? I don't know, but I would keep my distance if I were you. Good radar! Journey on...

Journey on...

Dec 13 - 12PM (Reply to #6)
Used
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haha

Why, I ask didn't you nip it in the butt..." - should be bud not butt - lol! a freudien slip, me thinks the lady doth protest to much
Dec 13 - 12PM (Reply to #3)
michele115 (not verified)
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Thanks Blue and Journey

Actually Blue...Journey hit every point I hit word for word basically, I just wanted to see if I was being too sensitive. Certainly passive aggressive and condescending which in essence proves... I wasn't imagining wth she was doing... Thank you for clarifying... She's been deleted with no reply...just in case she's a supply junkie... Afterall, don't Narcs hunt for people when the victims are most vunerable? Lordy, now everybody I meet is gonna get the Narc label...LOL I could slap her... Hugs
Dec 13 - 2PM (Reply to #5)
blueeyes
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Michelle,

Haha! It sure feels damn near impossible to have a decent friend. I'm sorry, one less, huh?
Dec 13 - 12PM (Reply to #4)
Journey
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I missed one!

"If ever we were to talk again" - a threat perhaps? lol! Being too sensitive is just another way of saying "don't f%$k with me and I'll be fine!" Ignoring our sensitivity is just another way of saying "I need you, even if you create feelings in me that aren't good for me to feel right now, leave me a bit confused, bad, rattled, angry, offended, hurt, or upset in any way" Journey on...

Journey on...

Dec 13 - 11AM
blueeyes
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Eh?

Maybe a lil? You laid it on pretty good. lol. I have done this out of anger, but usually not to the person. I send it to a friend or sister, by the time we are done laughing about how I ripped the person, my anger is gone and I can address them better. That is if I even feel the need at that point, I usually consider it "out" by then. IDK Michelle, it depends on how she said what she said? In any event, sh*t happens!