For all of you that want him to come back or contact you again.....

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#1 Jun 16 - 5PM
rainbow1
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For all of you that want him to come back or contact you again.....

DONT! Dont feel that way! Please! You will not win and you will not feel better! I know this. My xn has been horrible to me for the last month and a half. I have been praying everynight for something good from him. Some sort of validation. SOMETHING. Well I got it today. And guess what? I feel worse! I really really do. He wanted me to come get my stuff from his house today. He wanted me to see him because it was the ONLY way he would give it back. He also had some of my room mate's stuff but he would only give it to me. I am sad to say that I went. I felt sick to my stomach the whole drive there. When I got there I grabbed my stuff and my room mates stuff and he tried acting like we were best friends. Asking me about my life and telling me about his. When I went to leave he asked for a hug and told me to text him later and keep in touch. I just left. Then after I drove off I realized that he didnt give me the money that he owed my room mate which is a big reason I went there. I text him telling him that he forgot to pay me. He said he knows that. Then I asked him to just mail her a check because it would be easiest for everyone. He told me that he would never mail a check. I asked how she would get her money and he said that I would have to come back soon to get it. He did this on purpose. He asked me to come back to his place soon and stay longer next time and start hanging out again. I just told him that I am a very busy person and dont really see this happening.

ALL I CAN SAY IS DONT WANT THEM TO CONTACT YOU! I should feel so much better that I got validated and that he wants me in his life again, but I dont. I feel worse actually. I can see his game and how sick he is. I feel sick to my stomach. I am going no contact now but I am sure that he wont give up. Ever worse is that I called my phone company today to block his number and they said that they do not do this anymore. I feel sick.

Jun 17 - 6PM
Susan32
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Closure, validation, explanations

Every once in a rare while, I'll fantasize about my ex-P contacting me, groveling, weeping, in anguish, apologetic, giving closure to all he inflicted on me... but I realize it's just that, A FANTASY. He's a psychopath, he can't feel emotional pain (which is too bad, his loss) I'd like to think that his marriage and parenthood a decade ago has made him into a sympathetic, kind, feeling HUMAN... but from all I read here, that's magical thinking. It's magical thinking to believe that marriage and parenthood magically transforms psychopaths into loving, empathetic humans. Besides, if my ex-P ever called me up, I wouldn't let him get a word in edgewise, and I'd probably use a TON of obscenities. No, I'd rather not listen to him. He'd be lying anyhow. Closure, validation, explanations.... NORMAL HUMANS do those things, NOT psychopaths.
Jun 16 - 5PM
sher1221
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Manipulation

Your N is doing what mine is. Telling me to come by for dinner and I can stay at our house until I get a permament place. Then he text me last night and dumped me, though I left him. Now he is saying to let him know when I want to get my stuff he will make sure to be there so he can manipulate some more. All these tactics are manipulation they are masters at it. Don't fall for it. I am trying so hard to stay strong. I hope you do to.
Jun 16 - 5PM
Steph
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Can u just change your

Can u just change your number?
Jun 16 - 5PM (Reply to #2)
rainbow1
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staying strong78

I can change my number but this will not help at all. All of our friends are the same people. I literally mean probably 90% of the people in my life he has contact to. Even the people he barely knows he is friends with one of their friends. We have known all of these people for our whole lives. And all of my friends he doesnt really know are friends with his friends. It is a very ugly situation. He WILL get my number even if I change it.

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Jun 16 - 5PM (Reply to #3)
AnotherPath
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Don't answer.......... then

Don't answer.......... then press delete

Ending the dance

Jun 16 - 5PM (Reply to #4)
rainbow1
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I plan on it

I plan on not answering and I have deleted his number. I just hope that when the multiple pathetic texts and calls start coming that I am strong enough to ignore ignore ignore. I know that I have a big heart and that this is going to be so hard for me. I am not good at this. My mom is actually a Narc as well and I have been living with this for my whole life. I have never been able to just say NO! I always get guilted into stuff and feeling bad. I am in therapy for my lack of boundries right now. I hope it helps because I know I will cave eventually... my mom and xn have trianed me that way.

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Jun 17 - 5AM (Reply to #5)
Qing Yuan
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WOW.. These guys are the same colour 'black all over arent they?

Wow... U and me r on the same level.. My mum is NARC associated (with my dad) , so not evil to the core becasue she loved us very much, she came from poor mining town so it wasn't easy but she was warm when we were children and did her best... but as I grew, she got harder and bitter and my angry at my dad for his critical menacing selfishness and then it ensewed, years of bad relationships looking for a father figure like my pops, but also not like him paradoxically.. .. I just cant get away rom my NARC. He makes NC harder than playing ball with a octopus. He is king of manipulation. He keeps coming round telling me he wants me to sell the house, (I told him already that I was gong to try sell house) He wants me to move into rented place, he will do up house and then sell it FOR US!!! Its mostly my 'investment' courtesy of my mother, who has been throwing money at me for years becasue she its easier than relating emotinially. GREAT>>>Not really.. always being damaging.. though she doesnt have much really she always gives it to me.. Though dont get me wrong, I am independent and hard working.. anyway...... I have had a long story to cut short..Sorry... I wanted a baby for many years and was childless (proly needed to nurture, as it was innate in me) (like you rainbow1, you said you have a big heart), anyway, he wanted to procreate because he wanted to get his kid/kids in the world... Perfect way for him to secure easy meat- sources of secondry supply... he said and did everything it took. AS it goes I would have rather she helped me when my son was older to buy house but she insisted on rail roading me into buying house with NARC husband that incedentally she went wild when I said I Was marrying him, absolutly wild... I dont know the house is a bigger 'tie' to me than the marrige. Its doesn't cost anything to mainatain a marriage seperatly forn the person you married too.. . But the bloody house is a night mare and living seperatly we loose more money from the state. Its all a bloody shambles but I get driven in and out of his messy life. HE Doesn't stick to plans, breaks agreements, forgets and convenitanly rembers the things I said and fights over coming in and cleaning my house that he says needs cleaning and that he is looking out for his son by keeping control over our sons room... He uses My son to get into my house and stay over. I try to take keys away once and he threathed to take away the things he gives me financially and the food he sometimes buys for our boy. When the shit hits the fan and he is trying to pull me back in. He doesn't realise that I have been here before! Not the same level of manipulation, no not at all.. much less manevolent with last NARC. BUT When a NARC has you under that control and doesn't let you go it can really fuck you up. ETC ETC.. But I remain NC I do as much as I can. AS much as I can.. but the manipulation It can be over powering. I am more ill than I can tell you.. SO I UNDERSTAND>>> I FELL YOUR STRUGGLE>>>but you dont have children do you?>>> ITS A GIFT FOR GETTING OUT... I love my boy but its part if the struggle for power in my life.. So You can get out. SO GET OUT STAY OUT.. REMEMBER.. these guys are masters of disguises and charm and even nasty behaviour that keeps you locked in... pure destruction. Instantly. when he people he meets he can be either charm fiercely or shame publicly and so people are either drawn or repelled to him in minutes of meeting. If I didnt have the money things keeping me bound I would be out but my son goes to steiner school and it costs money.. . My son is the single most importnat thing in the world so I stay as NC as I can and I never speak to him and I try not to have to listen to him but he does try to make me hear him and gets nastier sna s nartier as I stay disconnected.... I struggle to find a way to have my own finances so that I can be free again.. . SO I get your pain and your fears.. Its hard because the moment these guys come into the room the begin to suck your energy out of you, depleting you of you "feeing light energtic body" the part of you that is meant to be open and ready for relationships.. ... AND YOU WILL feel drained around these people. They make you loose your sense of 'balance' and you will always feel unstable and unable to heal. Thats why you felt so bad driving over there.. If you really want to heal then remember he doesn't want that. If you become brighter still that you are already he will attack your light with his dark.. His lonely isolated dark inner core that has offended everyone and lost everyone he has known to the issues that he refuse to address in himself.. You cant help him, the very nature of his soul is coloured with this mess of a life he has built and the weird thing about pathalogicals is they have the skill to refrain from too much intrspection and can tell them selves quite easily that because they control everthing and everyone as 'objetcs on the outside', refraining from true intimacy, that they are actually very happy. You are an object to him to pick up and drop at his will and so long as you condone that and comply to his picking and dropping you will be drained and unfulfilled.. GET out rainbow 1 girl and PLEASE STAY OUT>>>> You can do this I know you can... v x PEACE AND LIGHT To u..
Jun 17 - 11AM (Reply to #6)
rainbow1
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Vix

Your story is so much like mine! Only I dont have children with him! Thank God. You say that your mother gives you money because it is easier than emotions. I have said many times that my mother is very generous with her money but very selfish with her emotions. Also, you said that you search for your dad in your relationships. The thing with me is that I do not have a father. I have never known him. So my problem is that I search out people like my mother. Most of my relationships have been with people with problems, but this one has been the worst because I fell in love with his fake mask. Yes these people do drain you. I feel drained whenever I am around him. I know that I can never get away from him. Yours uses your son to stay connected and mine uses all of the stuff that he stole. He stole stuff just so that I would have to see him to get it back. We also have ALL of the same friends so he uses that too. Mine even moved out instead of me because then that way he knew where I am at all times. He wont give back our keys (we changed the locks), he said that he doesnt have the garage opener anymore which I know he does (so we unplugged it), but me and my room mates have a scary gut feeling that he is lurking around the house. Weird things are happening. There might still be away for him to get in the house. Things are moved some days when we get home, things we know we shut are opened. It is just creepy. I know that I will never get rid of him until he has new supply, but then he will still be back later. I like how you said "he has known to the issues that he refuse to address in himself.." It is so true. Mine knows what is wrong with him. People have tried to help him or send him to therapy but he wont go. If you tell him that he has anger issues he gets this creepy smirk on his face and just laughs it off. It is quite sick actually. I am trying to stay no contact but it seems that every two days he contacts me for SOMETHING and I always answer because I am trained to.....

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