Thank you sooooo..... much. I appreciate your kind words. We will all be fine because we have each other and this is what works for getting us through all of this. You are all incredibly special and awesome to me and I only want the BEST for all of us!!!
Goldie
I see your point, and understand where you are coming from. And in some point you are right.
But I think Lisa shared that not only to get it off her chest, but because the "event" fits in here very well.
I dont want to say they are Narcs. But all I know is, Lisa wrote the book, this is her side, and the other side also belonged to her.
And what happened is something we can learn from. Although it is traumatizing to hear such a thing, about people you trusted and helped you to recover, it doesnt bring us forward to close our eyes and pretend the world is full of angels.
Its something we all can learn from.
Hugs.
I certainly think this situation is most unfortunate for all those involved. Somewhere in the middle of each individual’s truth is the absolute truth. I think your solution to have both parties just delete all statements regarding this issue from both sites is best. If both sites sole purpose is to help people recover, get out and move on from destructive relationships, this issue really serves no purpose other than distraction from your main point of existing in the first place.
If you wrote a book and have a second book coming out you absolutely SHOULD promote your book. I don’t think you promote your books to the point where you are constantly shoving it down someone’s throat on this website. Its here and if you wish to purchase it you can. I understand from your bio that you do work full-time so I assume that is why you had moderators on here in the first place. To make sure you had experienced voices on here when you could not be on-line. Not all of us are so fortunate that we don’t have to work a 9-5 job. If you can do something that you are passionate about and can do it for free because you have the means to do so, then by all means proceed full steam ahead but don’t knock someone else’s hustle. We live in a capitalist society (America) and you had the courage to not only tell your story but start this website. If you happen to make money from either then GOOD FOR YOU! That does not make your intentions less pure. If your purpose is to sell books then you should step your sales pressure game up. I have never been asked for money on this website nor felt pressured to purchase your book.
If your moderators just left without explanation then perhaps in hindsight they should have spoken to your directly and individually regarding their decision. Just as a common courtesy. I am sure that hurt you as a human being particularly if you thought you had also developed a friendship. Maybe they had their reasons but sometimes common courtesy can go a long way in diffusion of a situation.
Your home is your sanctuary and protection from the rest of the world. One has to be careful discussing certain things in a person’s home. If the topic is sensitive or has the potential to become heated it can make a person feel threatened or verbally attacked and cause a reaction that may be different than what would have occurred in a professional environment. We can have a disagreement at work in a conference room, but believe me if you were in my home my words/actions would probably be different. Your tolerance level/sensitivity is different in your own home and rightly so.
I can see how you feel used/betrayed you had this site before the other and apparently issues were there long before the completion of the other site. If that was the case then perhaps one or both parties should have parted ways long before completion of the other site so that no party ended up gardening and then not reaping the fruits of their labor. No matter what your motives were YOU started this Pink site and developed it. I am quite sure you said some things in haste out of hurt and frustration and lashed out. It’s a natural reaction and I certainly feel your need to “Put em on Blast”.
I consider myself a loyal person and while I don’t know any of you personally Pink is where I began and Pink is where I will stay. I know you are supposed to be a bit “off” mentally but hell so am I .
Just my 1.2 cents.
Hugs – DITCH HIS ASS!
Thanks ladies. Yes, it is very unfortunate the way it was handled. If Betty wasn't happy, she should have come to me in a professional manner so we could part ways amicably, allowing everyone the ability to collaborate on our efforts to help victims.
Instead, she spent the last two months undermining me by telling the moderators horrible lies about me and staged a shake-down in my own home. I was verbally and almost physically attacked in my own home. I had to get the doorman involved and almost called the police. Thank God Goldie was there with me when it all went down. She is a true angel. I don't know what I would have done had she not stood by me in my home.
I have no comment on why the moderators left this site without talking to me. I believe Betty manipulated them, just like she manipulated me.
I had to go back and double-check that I read what I read correctly and sure enough, I saw it right.
In fact, here is a direct quote from Ms. Class herself:
"Tonites menu soft tacos wrapped in 2 ply charmin mmmm good"
- Betty
Ummm, ok. I know Rockford, Illinois is an armpit, but do you really have to eat toilet paper with taco meat?
Just to prove what a liar Betty is, check out her bio on her new site. She says she's a native of Chicago? She grew up and lives 2 hours away from Chicago in Rockford, Illinois. Look it up on a map if you're not familiar with this state. She has no shame in her lies!
They band me from the site lol I tryed to log in a few days ago but nope .. but quite frankly im about as bothered as butter .. I knew they would ban anyway lol..
Lisa we are all here for you , i have always believed in you and trusted you . This site is so far the best and the other one is run by ... well ... i wont say because im a lady .
Big Love xx
I'm trying to get OFF their site & can't! I've been trying to find the damn delete button there for 2 days now. I've emailed Betty & asked her, nicely, to please remove me, cancel my membership, or whatever you'd like to call it. But NOPE, I get nothing back from her at all. I was just over there to see if I could still log in and I CAN!!! It's like the damn Hotel California song, you can check out (logoff), but you can never leave!!!! LOL (Lisa and I were joking about this earlier. Too funny.)
Happy I made your day Goldie. I think Lisa might've actually said the Hotel California thing first, right before I started to say it; but she and I were definitely having the same thought at the same time. Hope you have a beautiful day also! ♥
CougarBabe7
You already know my point of view and....you see, I 'm here :-))))
PS I saw it coming.....I guess that all the Ns I met trained me so well that none of them can escape from my clinical eye now LOL
I am happy to be here, with you. I owe you my sanity of mind so...count on me, always.
Thanks ladies. Your support means so much to me. xoxo
You are right, SBW - true friends are rare, indeed. Thank you for your sweet note. :)
Scoop - I am not surprised they banned you. I love your comment that you're "about as bothered as butter." LOL !!!
They have no helpful info. on their site. I just took a peek and they're talking about mixing taco meat with toilet paper and eating it. Ewww! How disgusting!
I have a few choice words to describe them myself, but will refrain and only say they have absolutely no class. I've never encountered such low-life people in all my life. They have no shame for what they have done. They are disgusting and appalling and I'm so glad they are out of my life.
i know the other day you said you didn't want what happened to be discussed anymore. however, now i see that you needed to be more forthcoming about what happened, and i'm glad you are letting it all out. it's bad enough what we went through with our narcs, but when it is compounded by others whom we thought we could trust, it just makes the whole situation worse. i too have been too trusting and naive with certain people, and it hurts when you see their true colors. luckily i still have a few close friends who i still can trust, but at my age (almost 50), those true friends are few and far between. i just want to say how much i admire you for your integrity and how you handled the whole situation with dignity and grace before they forced your hand to tell us all the truth and details of the situation. this site has been a turning point in my recovery and i thank you from the bottom of my heart! we all love you here and don't ever forget that!!
You told me you almost regret to talked about it, cause I told you it damaged me almost more than the narc. I forgot to answer you, that no way you have to hold back here.
As I told you, I learned through your experience a very important lesson, and I hope others will do so too.
Hugs, I am very sorry for you, I know you also have lost a good friend.
Hugs!
You go girl! Let the others know what was done to you - it was horrible! They tricked you is what they did. They convinced you to allow your sites to be hosted by Betty's cousin so that they could manipulate you into giving them the other site by holding this site hostage. Sad for you that you were trusting enough to let them host your sites. I am too trusting sometimes also. Trust the wrong person and/or people, and it comes back around to bite you in the ass. So unfair! I'm so sorry this happened to you. But I was HERE on this site first because I found your book, bought it, read it, ditched a Narc; then came to this site to read, post, and continue my recovery. I also hope that my posts here are helping the others. I only found the other site after reading your book, being HERE and finding the link to the other site. It was YOUR book that helped me. Therefore, my loyalty lies here with you and to this site. I can hardly wait until your second book comes out! And thanks so much for everything. ♥
Thanks Cougarbabe7! I appreciate your support. For some reason, it's important for me to document what happened here. I know it makes me look very trusting and perhaps even foolish, but at the end of the day, I want the truth to be told. I'm not looking for anyone to respond or take sides, but simply know who they are dealing with if they do go to the other site for support. I feel it is my responsibility to warn my members. xoxo
Let me start by saying that what you have done here for all of us is remarkable! You took a chance and shared your expierence with the world so that the rest of us could find some peace with what we were dealing with. You, with your knowledge and open heart created this wonderful site that has brought many of us back from the dead. You opened your heart to us and gave us your full support. You have many, many, women on here who care for you deeply and trust you with our hearts as well. Be proud of yourself for everything you have done for us and what you are doing for us. Being too trusting has nothing to do with it. Sometimes other people have their own agenda from the start and we are not able to see that.
So there was 1 rotten apple in the basket! Throw it out and just remember you have plenty more apples here that are not rotten. I'm glad you are protecting yourself as you should.
Thanks Jen & Titta. I appreciate it more than you know. :)
As I said, it is important for me to make it very clear to all my members that I do NOT support nor do I endorse Betty's new site. She still has material relating to my Six Steps and my writing on her site. I do not want anyone to confuse her new site as a "sister" site or a site I recommend in any way, shape or form.
I do not feel Betty's site is a safe place to be. Based on my experience with her and her cousin, Chad, I believe they are only interested in making money off of victims. I highly recommend you stay away from them at all costs.
I no longer trust them and think you are right - they're just looking to make money off the victims. I went to the site earlier & tried to delete my membership; but couldn't see anywhere on the site HOW to do that. So I emailed Betty and asked her to please remove me. Don't want to be there anymore! Hopefully she will do as I've asked and delete me. She blew my trust in her and I just want OFF her site now. Stick a fork in me because I'm done! LOL
I don't think you look foolish at all. I've trusted people who should not have been trusted, many times. It happens. There's no way to know that you shouldn't trust someone until they do something like this. I completely understand why it was important for you to document what happened here. I'd feel the same way. And yes, it IS your responsibility to warn your members. Good job. :)
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I had to double-check
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