To realize

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#1 Oct 26 - 3PM
julia29
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To realize

I am beginning to realize that a man who goes out of his way to hurt one woman, can't be a good man to another woman. That's final. Sound simple right? But so hard to grasp when you are the hurt one... Sure we can all act like jerks, but what these men do, OMFG!

My ex is now together with a women, I told you before, she is older than me, has a good career going, and I thought that was enough, and better than me... They live in the same neigborhood as I, and today I saw them together for the first time, she actually looks like me, petite and with dark curly hair, just pailer and older than I... But who cares!

The last few days I am beginning to realize how sick this man actually is. Extremely physical and psychological abusive, in spite of his status etc... and charm.

He told me his new girlfriend is the cousin of his friend's wife, and that her twi sister is married to another of his friend, so I guess he will never be physical abusive to her (thats probably too dangerous) AND that made me so sad at first (I am no better than the next) But now it doesn't bother me that much, because who REALLY wants to be with a man who almost killed his ex? Only a girl who doesn't know any better. I was that girl. Lucky me I am 29, I feel so sorry for that woman, because she actually looked so sweet..

AND now I realize he has not changed while being with her, he still (a month ago) did the best he could to hurt me (don't actually know if he believes his own lies) telling me he only took me for my looks, he knows better now and bla bla bla, the one thing that actually does still hurt is that he told me how hard it was for him living with a girl with bulimia. Yep, I did suffer from bulimia in my early 20's...stupid me telling him that, At the time I met him, I did not have any form of eating disorder, neither when I was with him, and neither after, but today he is telling everybody how sick I am, and that bulimia made me abusive and so on and on,

So today I changed my phonenumber, I, with all in me, never ever wish to talk to him again, He no longer has any place in my heart. I don't even feel angry today, just sad that people can be so disordered and mean, a bit glad that he and all of his friend and his world is no longer a part of mine.

After 7-8 months after intense suffering I never thougt I would be able to feel this way. If I can, I know all of you can, and BTW I am so grateful for the support in here!

Oct 27 - 10AM
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julia

I read what you said, and like you, I too, always thought he would be nice to the ow, but you are so young and so smart, to realize, if a man is cruel to his wife, what makes anyone think he will be kind to the next. he wont be, and as for yours, he will hide the physical abuse, until he knows he is in total control of her, then he will strike. hopefully, she catches on pretty quick and dumps his ass before he can do any harm to her. just glad you are strong and did what you did, i hope someday i will feel the same. xoxo Jaycee

Jaycee

Oct 27 - 10AM (Reply to #15)
Susan32
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I was the waitress test

The "waitress test" is how does a man treat members of the opposite sex who are, in a sense, his inferiors? My friend said after the D&D that since the ex-P mistreated his student (me), he wouldn't be nice to his fiancee either. She said that the ex-P inflicted a lot of emotional abuse on me... and I wasn't even a girlfriend. When I read 9 years ago that the ex-P had impregnated the OW with twins and had married her, I felt FOR HER. And for the children. All I knew then was that the ex-P's parents moved in with him to raise his twins. I don't even know if he and the OW are still together... but I'm not that curious. Sometimes Narcs marry each other and have kids... it happened in my mother's case. My grandmother and my late grandfather are both Narcs. Perversely, I wished the OW was a Narc herself so he wouldn't hurt her, and she could dish it out. I wanted her to give him the ultimate taste of his own medicine.
Oct 27 - 10AM
Susan32
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Elaborating on your comment

I think that male victims of Ns/Ps (be their victimizers male or female) are in a sad unique position. They're male; they're assumed to be too strong to be victimized. I'd rephrase your opening comment as "a man who goes a long way to hurt another man can't be good to a woman",or "a man who goes a long way to hurt one of his students can't be good to a woman" and even "a man who goes a long way to hurt one of his students can't be good to his children." It was the ex-P's gay ex-boyfriend who warned me about the impending D&D, the disrespect, that the P was a bad influence. I was warned by a gay man... not by a woman. I'd chalk it up to the ex-P's misanthropy (hatred of humans) rather than simple misogyny.
Oct 27 - 12AM
Disillusionedx2
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some kind of wonderful

Julia, I am happy for you, it is a great feeling, I have been there, almost, caved in for a second round but I'll be back! Music to your ears, you deserve to dance a lil jig,heck, a big one, welcome & best wishes for continued healing.

stay~strong

Oct 26 - 9PM
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Welcome Julia29, Thank

Welcome Julia29, Thank you for joining our community. Please take some time to read through the Blog, Shared Stories, Abbreviations, and Forum Guidelines here on AAH. It is vital for you to understand what our forum is about and gain insight into how the board operates before posting for the first time. We also encourage you to take time to read the articles and posts here. Read as much as you can on the topic. Knowledge is power! Understanding the personality disordered individual (PDI) or narcissist in your life is vital to your recovery. No one knows what it's like to try to love a PDI unless they have been through it themselves. We're glad you found us. You should find comfort in knowing that you are not alone, not at fault and most definitely not crazy. All of us here have shared similar experiences at the hands of the PDIs. We are all at different stages in the recovery process and our main mission is to help and support one another with compassion, love and respect. Please understand that this forum is not a replacement for therapy in any way. We all have endured serious emotional trauma from past events and abusive treatment at the hands of the personality disordered. Therefore, we feel it is a personal responsibility for each of us to seek out a therapist that specializes in trauma. A qualified mental health professional is best to help you through this difficult time right now. However, please know, we are always here for you as a supplement to your recovery program. Welcome to our family! Sincerely, Moderators for AAH

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Oct 26 - 9PM
Janet
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Julia, it took me a long

Julia, it took me a long time to realize what you have today. Good for you! And you are so right, he does not suddenly become a nice/non-abusive guy because he is with someone new. I would not want to be with any man who was abusive to another woman (ESPECIALLY within the last month). I am not so sure the other woman will be spared his physical abuse, once he feels safe he will do what he does best. It does feel SOOOO great to be free from the abuse and negativity. I am nearly a year NC and feeling great and so happy! Peace. J

Peace. J

Oct 26 - 8PM
onwithmylife
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julia 29

I like your spirit and attitude, these freaks always hold onto something that you tell them in confidence and USE it against you,my EXN did that with a job situation i was in some years ago and sided with the boss over me, it was disgusting and uncalled for.I am well aware he never LOVED me, any other woman and least of all himself, his mother for reasons I will never know, destroyed him, which I am thinking is why when i mentioned in a letter, he might want to revisit his relationship with his mother and see if he revisited that with each important woman in is life, did I touch a nerve within him, all this hateful crap he threw at me, rather than look within.
Oct 26 - 7PM
helldweller
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Julia29

You are amazing! You saw him with a new woman AND changed your phone number all in the same day!?! You rock!
Oct 26 - 10PM (Reply to #8)
almostlydia
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totally agree, you rock.

totally agree, you rock. How much strength you have. it is admirable. almostlydia

almostlydia

Oct 26 - 3PM
shortway
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Good job!!...I am getting

Good job!!...I am getting there as well..I see behind his smile and the ugliness that is behind there..Something only I and a few people know..However,my mother saw some texts...and is beginning to know as well..I am not covering for him anymore...i also said in my last email..I have no problem telling people of the real you..Keep running you coward... I want nothing to do with him...If he is homeless on the street I will step over him..Good job on changing your number!
Oct 26 - 3PM (Reply to #2)
julia29
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P.s. I wish a had a bottle

P.s. I wish a had a bottle of champagne, I feel like dancing today and celebrate, for the first time I feel free, maybe for the first time in my life. We should all spoil ourselves with a dance :-) Dance them out of our lifes or something...
Oct 26 - 4PM (Reply to #3)
shortway
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yeahhhhhhhh!!!! let's dance

yeahhhhhhhh!!!! let's dance to sinatra!..lol..Free at last!!! Goodbye pain,goodbye loser,goodbye evilness,goodbye lies,deciet,blame,abuse,hate,....hello life!
Oct 26 - 7PM (Reply to #4)
almostlydia
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I have the BEST celebration

I have the BEST celebration song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkwJ-g0iJ6w Dance around the house! almostlydia

almostlydia

Oct 26 - 7PM (Reply to #5)
helldweller
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almostlydia

I LOVE that song!
Oct 29 - 3PM (Reply to #6)
julia29
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Oh thank you for the song

Oh thank you for the song :-) I sure did dance that day...