Twisted thinking

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#1 Jul 1 - 10AM
GhostBuster
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Twisted thinking

I met a guy who was married to a narcissist (diagnosed with NPD and HPD) a while back in a coffee shop (he approached me because I was reading a book on narcissism). So, we struck up a conversation and it was pretty fascinating and frightening to hear how his life is still so affected five years after their divorce. They have joint custody so he has to maintain contact with her. My point in sharing this is that he told me how he now has to think like her in order to get his very reasonable needs met concerning his children. He remarked how twisted it felt to "manipulate the manipulator"...but that's his reality now. Specifically, if he wants to see his children on his birthday or father's day, he has to tell her he has other plans and he doesn't want to see the children. THEN...invariably, she'll drop them off just before his plans are set to begin in an attempt to ruin his plans. She thinks she's pissing on his parade when in fact, she's played right into his hands. So sick. But I thought I'd share that with those of you who are dealing with a N ex and have joint custody or are in the process of this arrangement.

So a couple of weeks ago, I found myself employing this guy's tactics to try and get my N ex to stop stalking me on my company's website (which he did for 3 solid months). So I actually tried to think like him (eck!) and it seems to have worked! I don't see him on my company stats anymore! What I did was this: I thought...hmmm...if I can't keep him from stalking our website (and perhaps thinking he would try to reconnect with me when he returns from the Middle East), I'll give him something to read on our website that will dissuade him from his reconnection plan. So, without referencing him at all, I tailored my bio on our site to convey my strength (because he's counting on me to be weak and susceptible to him) and I was completely dismissive of him (as if he never existed). Without getting into specifics, I did this in a way that no one else would be the wiser, but it would offend his narcisstic superiority and image of himself. I'm rather exited that this seems to have worked but at the same time disgusted that I had to think "like" him in order to manipulate him. Feels like a need a hot shower!

Jul 6 - 10AM
Lisa E. Scott
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Read this if you're in joint custody battle - Thanks Ghostbuster

Ghostbuster - very interesting what you did after learning from the man you spoke to sharing custody with his ex narcissistic wife. I'm bumping it up with a title because I do get a lot of requests from readers to do a blog talk radio show on "Dealing with Joint Custody with an Ex-Narcissist," which we will do soon. I also wanted to commend you for out-smarting him. Must feel good. You go, girl!
Jul 3 - 7PM
Carolyn
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Now you know how it feels to

Now you know how it feels to operate without emotional intelligence. If it works go for it.
Jul 9 - 4PM (Reply to #3)
trueblue101
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Hey

Hi Ghostbuster. It is crazy that we have to use their games to get through to them. I am not sure the specifics of what you did, but sounds like it worked. Congrats. P.S.-My ex-narc is returning from the Middle East also, I sure hope it is not the same man!
Jul 9 - 5PM (Reply to #4)
GhostBuster
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My ex N GI Joe is in his 40s

My ex N GI Joe is in his 40s and won't be back for (hopefully) another 6 months. Sound like the same guy? And yes, glad to report I still don't see him stalking me via the company website anymore. Mission accomplished! (or at least I hope so).
Jul 9 - 5PM (Reply to #5)
trueblue101
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Nope, not the same guy....

which I guess is a relief. Mine is in finance and coming back to the US for good (where I am sure he will find his way on my street). Even though they are not the same person, they sure sound alike!
Jul 10 - 2PM (Reply to #6)
GhostBuster
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They ALL are alike in many

They ALL are alike in many ways. Different bodies, voices, etc...but same psycho script!
Jul 1 - 10AM
Barbara (not verified)
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It's unfortunate that we

It's unfortunate that we have to do these things. But we do. It isn't twisted as much as its Pro-Active. When Psycho-Boy started stalking my blog - I actually took my blog offline and put up a page with a message to him, saying basically 'I see you - here's your IP - what do you want and why are you stalking me?' It called him out on his behavior and he stopped. He also was going to every support group I was on. While the Vaknin forums didn't help me at ALL... in fact the opposite; most of the forums blocked him or wrote him and told him to bug off. Also, when he started posting his stream of LIES about me, his grossly revised versions of history and what happened as well as my IP, the names of my children and my address & phone (which is ILLEGAL) as well as a hate site about me - my friends sat me down and encouraged me to publish as much hard, factual information as I could. And I did so here. He took the hate site down just a couple months ago. As my late therapist told me "You have to go where they are clueless you would EVER go!" That is, be up front about telling the truth. I believe in exposing them - not for revenge but for the sake of clarity and to help other realize who/ what they are dealing with and to validate other victims. I also use a lot of reverse and upside-down psychology on my exNH. It's the only way. I know it feels odd to have to do these things but its not twisted on your part. What is twisted is that these are the only ways to deal with them when you have to. They put us in this position. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/