The Bachelorette

This is my weekly *guilty pleasure* too. It is like watching a social experiment! You really can get clues to who is and who isn't a narcissist... Ali seems like a sweet and unassuming gal! I liked watching her get angry at Justin and confront him. It was amazing to witness his bold faced lies on camera...his half-way apology (NOT one at all...more like "I said I was sorry...now get off my back")...When his mask slipped and his REAL self was revealed...note how he treated Ali with total disrespect (Devalue & Discard, by refusing to even look at her, acting like SHE had done something wrong, saying "don't touch me"...leaving her standing there feeling confused and hurt & angry))...as if she had done something wrong by finding out the truth about HIM!!! Unbelievable! What a snake...with a smile...same league as MY Narcissist. Beautiful on the outside...evil on the inside...hey! isn't that also the description of the devil?!!!...these guys are all serpents... When Justin lied on camera "No, I didn't come here for publicity purposes, No I don't have a girlfriend...NO!, Jessica and I are 'just good friends'...NO, I did NOT say I wanted to marry her. No I did not contact her...okay maybe once... At the end of the segment you get to listen to a number of his voicemails that he left for Jessica during his many frequent calls to her... (Smart Girl! She saved his messages!and gave them to the show to air!!!)...and in them he keeps calling her (alot!), asking her why she doesn't answer the phone...tells her how much he loves her & misses her, tells her he wants to get married to HER...and that she is his 'everything', and makes reference to the fact that 'this' may have been a bad idea to come on the show for other reasons...etc.etc..etc...lies revealed...and his "Prince Charming" persona...becomes the reality of the TOAD that he really IS...ad nauseum...bleeeccchhh! Did you guys also catch a classic narcissistic clue about how they always try to gain sympathy in some manner...ie: 'his foot cast'...and he was always talking about how hard it was for him to have a disadvantage...awwwww poor guy, just look at him...notice him...give him some more attention' !!!!...RIGHT! Uhhuh! Sure!...just another way to 'stand out among the crowd' and get some 'special attention'. If he really DID have an injury and a cast...(it's possible)...he certainly played it up! (walking all the way to her house with his cast to prove how far he would go for Ali's love...etc..etc..etc...What an actor and a liar! Classic Narcissistis traits and behavior...and all this would be subtle and probably unnoticed by those who have never known one personally/intimately...until it was too late...! The guys did NOT like Justin right from the start...notice how he was usually aloof from the others (they obviousy sensed his insincerity and grandiosity) Next, I hope Ali is smart enough to start to pay attention to why sh feels 'scared' to be falling in love with Frank! This was a sign I did not heed when I first started to date MY Narcissist/Psychopath BF. My stomach was always in knots and I would not feel good sometimes around him...wary...but I thought those were 'love butterflies'... great! just great! HATE the damage these freaks do to so many people! Mine changed the entire course of my life... Run from Frank Ali...RUN!!! Forget love - I'd rather fall in chocolate!

haha. i love those shows too actually . Unfortunately I used to watch them with dickhead, we'd order in and make a night of it. haven't watched it since. oh well lol

OMG we are getting good at this! first...justin, yes i knew he was a fraud. i mean the attention he wanted...you know he was a little con artist. i thought it was SO funny how he ran from the camera like a coward. I literally thought oh my god, its my ex! running away instead of responding. second...franks eyes...they are weird...i said the same thing to my friend. i think chris l is genuine and maybe roberto...we will see. oh my...i cant get over justin running in the grass...i was laughing so hard. atleast this snapped me out of misery!

Not only did I catch that Justin would be the guy with the girlfriend, I also nailed it on the head the next jerk who is the biggest narc on the show (because he reminded me of my last exN in every way - even the same age!) My girlfriend read the spoiler when I told her my suspicion, she said "interesting." Well, of course then I had to find out for myself. I didn't spoil the rest of the show for myself. I think Chris the landscaper who had his birthday with her and the rooftop dance is the only genuine good guy on the show. I hope she picks him.