I have seen evil

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#1 May 14 - 1PM
Scoop
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I have seen evil

I was remembering an event that really shows the two side to the mask of a psychopath .

It was christmas and i was ill with the flu , My band was having a party and i really wanted to go , before i went i got in to a fight with the narc , he started it of cause , i was really trying not to cry as i wanted to go to the party with out puffy eyes but he made me cry , He shamed me and was trying to say he didnt feel anything for me the usual stuff .

It got to the point that i was sobbing on the stairs and he went into the living room where his house mate was and started laughing and having a joke with him , he then comes back out and looks at me and says in a nasty voise "what you crying for " . This was evil at work , the two sides of the mask .How could he change his personality at a blink of an eye .
I didnt go to the party i drove home and went to bed , at 5 in the morning i drove back to his and got in the bed , he as still up and said that he had been wating for me as he was worryed ,"where have you been , where have you been " he said almost paniced then we slept in each others arms ...WTF. Im guess i went back to his house because i couldnt belive i had witnessed this gob smacking piece of theater from him . I didnt believe in evil , i didnt believe he was evil , i thought he was missunderstood and that as my fault, i thought he had a bad childhood so i could love his out of it , any excuse apart from he was evil . But he is and was evil .
Scoop x

May 15 - 5PM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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'don't act like it hurts'

i've heard that....more times than i can count..he'd do something to hurt me.....whether physcially or emotionally, then when i was in tears he'd sneer and say...... 'it doesn't hurt...don't act like it hurts'... the want to deny us even our own pain..... i hate him......i hate them all.......
May 15 - 9PM (Reply to #11)
Susan32
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Denying pain

Wow... my ex-N was the same way... he'd say "if you didn't feel this way/if you didn't think this way... ypu wouldn't be suffering" and "I see you're struggling." He wouldn't say it a sneering way, but sometimes coldly, sometimes "sympathetically." He thought he could command how I thought or felt. The fact that he reduced me to tears IN PUBLIC-before his colleagues and my friends--was a blessing in disguise. His unfeeling attitude was evident to all. Besides, people think a man who humiliates a woman like that is crass. People have a VERY LOW attitude of men who do that to women.
May 15 - 1PM
broken23
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evil does exist.. this makes

evil does exist.. this makes me so sad and angry. one time i was getting out of the car upset and the bastard drove the van really fast when i wasnt out yet. i feel from the car and fell in the mall parking lot and scraped my arm and hands on the cement. he looked at me and said dont act like it hurts. his eyes were evil at that minute. within a couple hours he was back to i love you's. i hate him.
May 15 - 2PM (Reply to #9)
smileyfacepr
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Yes evil does exsist!!

One of the last things I said to him was he had a black heart!I didnt c it until that last day! Wow, I remember there were many times something would bother me, sometimes I would say something, sometimes I wouldnt (walking on eggshells to keep the peace) but lets say maybe sometimes I couldnt take the silent treament for no reason and I would get sentimental, I would go on the balcony and cry..I know he could hear me sniffling...do u think he ever came out to comfort me and ask me what what was wrong????? Nope, Id stop, come back in, wash my face and sit to watch tv w/him and not a word. Like he could not be bothered. Thats so sad u look for a partner who can comfort u in times of need and these guys r not the ones!! How much effort and love and scarifice I put into him!!! Now I must put all that effort and love into myself! Maybe he is doing me a HUGE favor in keeping NC w/me! But boy, do they do a job screwing us up, they r not on a website trying to figure out their lives and looking for support and help to pick up the pieces!!

smileyfacepr

May 15 - 1PM (Reply to #8)
Scoop
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It really killed me

It really killed me remembering this and a lot of the feelings came back , i have so many incidents like this to go through i think i will be ninty before i am healed . The act he put on for me when he was "nice guy " was so real . It is pervese to the extream . My theropist is a lovely woman , a dotty old woman who lives in a cottage with holly hocks out side in a beautiful village but she doesnt get it , its kind of like going to see your grandmother for tea which is nice . I spoke with this male therapist and he seem to get it but in the back of my head i felt it as a sales pitch , i dont want to go and talk in a room with a man at the moment . In the uk we are really stuck for help . My serch goes on for the right therapist .My friends are great , my mum and dad are always there . I wish i had never met him , i wish i had walked out sooner , but walked i did in the end . Scoop x
May 15 - 6AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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SPLITTING

yes, splitting!!...i've seen the psycho SPLIT until he splintered..... when we were first married...i thought he was schizoid....he seemd TRIpolar.....he was all over the place..... one of the most DISGUSTING examples is when he was dying...and his oldest daughter came to see him...after him igoring her for 15 years....this sweet girl came to see him despite the way he'd treated her...and his exwife came too...he was all syrupy sweet...after they left i asked him if it was nice to see them....and he said..'yes'....and i said.....'are you sorry for the way you treated them?'...and he TURNED ON A DIME.... 'NO!..what should i be?..THEY abandoned ME...SHE divorced ME...THEY HAD IT COMING'....... bastard......... i don't think i will ever get over 17 years of being in such close proximity to this kind of crap....i'm scalded from it.......
May 14 - 9PM
Amazed
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Scoop, I have witnessed it myself. It is called '"splitting"

This is a consistant trait of the psychopath, and you are right on, you indeed witnessed the tip of the iceberg on how they relate to others, and the evil. They can flip from one side to another, support and berate people from one moment to the next. They are beyond two faced. They act like the one side of their attitude doesn't know the other. They don't relate to, care about, and have continuity with others. It is like they have no nostalgia, or connection with people. They just know what they want in the moment. They have no heart. They are playing you and everyone, always. They don't have genuine feelings. Only rage, and greed or whatever it is they want. They fool you into thinking they really enjoy being with you, then next breath you hearing them saying something awful about you. Unbelievable. Incredible to witness, and devastating when they do this crap in the workplace, intimate relationship, or families. They are unbelievable.
May 14 - 11PM (Reply to #5)
loveofmylife
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amazed

amen. it is freaky and you have to shake your head because it doesn't seem real. That was the biggest eye-opener to me. The two-faced action. Tearing someone apart to me, gossiping about them and putting them down, and then 10 minutes later, acting like their best friend in a meeting. It made me realize, wow, he acted like this person's best friend, it is TOTALLY believable and genuine sounding....and that is exactly how he acts towards me. Wow - I wonder what he is saying about me behind my back? (well, i found out)
May 14 - 11PM (Reply to #4)
Barbara (not verified)
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Splitting

Splitting - Idealization and Devaluation Definition: Splitting - Splitting is the behavior of treating, speaking of or thinking of people & situations as if they were completely "good" or completely "bad" and to occasionally switch between thinking of them as "all good" or "all bad". Description: Splitting is described in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic & Statistical Manual (DSM-IV) as one of the possible criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) as: "A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation." [could also apply to NPD] People who are regarded as being "all good" are sometimes referred to as being "split white" or "painted white". People who are regarded as being "all bad" are sometimes referred to as being "split black" or "painted black". When a person or a group of people is split white by a person with a personality disorder, they may suddenly, without notice be split black - and vice versa. There is usually some justification presented by the person with the personality disorder for their sudden change of heart but their logic is often flawed, contradictory or incomplete. Examples of Splitting: * A woman praises her husband as a wonderful husband and father in public but accuses him of abuse later the same day. * A mother habitually tells her daughter she is "useless" or "worthless" but when she gets a good grade at school gushes: "We are all so proud of you!" * A friendly co-worker or neighbor suddenly, without warning, begins giving you the cold shoulder. * A person persistently moves on from one social group to another, praising each group at first before becoming harshly critical. Splitting is an example of Dissociation, or "Feelings Create Facts" - where for a person with a personality disorder, their feelings take priority over what the facts actually tell them. If they experience a mood swing and suddenly feel good or bad about a particular person or situation, they can modify their opinions, memories or attitudes to be consistent those feelings, regardless of any apparent contradictions. What It Feels Like: When you come into contact with someone who engages in splitting, you may feel threatened by how easily or how quickly they can idealize or demonize you or other people for no apparent reason. Even if you are currently split white yourself, you may still feel insecure because you know that your favored "status" is not based on merit and may change without warning. As the old adage says: "What goes around comes around". If you are close to a person who uses splitting, you may occasionally find yourself being asked to choose between agreeing with them or defending yourself or other people whom they have split black. This can become a real problem if you feel there is a matter of principle which you are not willing to compromise or if a valued relationship with another person or group is suddenly challenged or threatened. You may be very uncomfortable trying to reconcile between your relationship with the person who suffers from the personality disorder and your presonal values or your valued relationships with other family members, friends and co-workers. You may suddenly come under a lot of pressure to cut off contact with these other people and you may find yourself sacrificing friendships and social settings just to "keep the peace". The problem with doing this is that, although this may help avoid conflict in the short term, you may be beginning to hurt yourself and starve yourself of support and social interaction that is good for you and that you need in order to stay emotionally healthy yourself. You may also come under sudden pressure to neglect or compromise your own values or prionciples when they come into conflict with the black and white thinking of someone who is splitting. The trouble with giving in to this kind of pressure is that you will probably regret these kind of compromises and are likely feel worse about yourself. Coping With Splitting What NOT to do: * Don't argue with a person who is splitting or try to talk sense into them. That's a recipe for a Circular Conversation. * Don't blame yourself. People with personality disorders can easily distort the facts in their mind to fit the way they feel. That's their concern, not yours. * Don't act like the Thought Police. Don't use any tricks, intimidation or ultimatums to try to get someone to see things differently. Everyone is entitled to think what they want to think and believe what they want to believe. * Don't become angry with them or try to retaliate. You will only be hurting a mentally-disordered person and making yourself look bad. * Don't yield your own reality about a person or group or isolate yourself from healthy friendships, family, social groups just to "keep the peace". Don't try to hide those relationships. It's OK for you to have differences of opinion. [if they don't like it, leave] * Don't automatically assume that everything the other person believes or says is untrue. Don't automatically run for the opposite corner or play "devil's advocate". Try to think objectively. Occasionally, like the boy who cried wolf, they may tell you something important. What TO do: * Handle disagreements with a person who is splitting as unemotionally, firmly and briefly as you can. * Try to "agree to disagree". Acknowledge that you see things differently. [if they refuse to agree, it's time to go] * Respect their right to have their own point of view and assert your own right to have your own point of view. * Avoid idealogical debates. Try to see the gray in each situation and judge on the merits. * Maintain and nurture your healthy friendships, family relationships and social groups, so long as they form no substantive threat to yourself or to another individual. * Find a support network, a group of people who understand and who you can talk to about the tough situations. * Find and nurture validating environments for yourself which are separate from the influence and control of a dissociative individual. * If appropriate, talk to people who have been split black or white by your loved one to let them know that you are able to see the "gray". http://www.outofthefog.net/CommonBehaviors.html ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 14 - 7PM
Susan32
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Causing drama for NO REASON

My ex-N started our "relationship" with a bang. He told me he was writing a book about Wittgenstein and Augustine... naturally, I told my friends (since he hadn't told me to keep it a secret) When he got wind of it, he interrogated them harshly... then got mad at me. He had also badmouthed me behind my back, calling me "crazy." One of my friends called him the Devil. He copped to it, saying,"I was only THINKING about writing a book." Yeah... that book would've been published back when the Class of 2010 were freshmen... LOL... Still, he started drama FOR NO REASON. Since he was an incompetent Narc, he ended up looking like the bully (well, because he was),and I looked good. Even when I met the OW from LA only once... (she and I had a nice chat)... he made a quick dash for the exit... with her catching up. A smarter Narc would've finessed that. He made some theater, and I was the one having the last word with,"I didn't know he already had a girlfriend" with an awkward silence following. My ex-N didn't seem to mind the fact that people considered him evil and inhuman. He got off on that...
May 14 - 4PM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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LIVING PROOF.......

the are living proof that Evil exists.....and flourishes..... i will never ever get over the evil i witnessed.....not ever.....there is no therapy for that....no medication for that... the psychopath was pure undiluted evil...like acid it burned me to the bone and beyond.....