Bonding

19 posts / 0 new
Last post
#1 May 12 - 8AM
Scoop
Scoop's picture

Bonding

What i am still baffled with was the intence form of bonding that occured right from the start , from the moment i met him i just wanted to touch him all the time , he seemed to want to touch me too when ever we where togther he had one hand on me at all times even when i was driving , in fact if we where not touching it felt strange.
What i am ashamed of was over christmas was the fact that i just couldnt leave him although he had made it clear he didnt want me (although we did get back together many times duing that time )that push and pull was probely the most distressing time of my life . He would say he didnt want a relationship with me yet every night he would snuggle up in bed . I felt although i wanted to run my legs just wouldnt work . I remember a time i screamed at him "why cant i go " and he said "theres the door there is nothing stopping you ".
I feel ashamed i didnt leave , although i have now ,at that time at christmas i knew what he was and what he was all about and although we where "just friends" that was the time the abuse was at its werst .
It felt like i was possesed or something , acting against my will .
Scoop x

May 12 - 10PM
enoughalready
enoughalready's picture

bonding

I feel ashamed at feeling addicted to him for so long. Now I can see how much he enjoyed the power and control he had on me. The misery and pain he inflicted on me must have felt so good to him. I broke up w/ him so many times only to come back a few days later-making it acceptable in his sick demented mind to treat me terribly the next time. We must have broken up a thousand times in 5 years. And every single time I came back, I regretted it and broke up for the last time!
May 12 - 10PM (Reply to #18)
Janet
Janet's picture

Same story enough. But I am

Same story enough. But I am not ashamed and you should not be either. We got out. Peace. J

Peace. J

May 12 - 7PM
Amazed
Amazed's picture

Bonding,,you are so open it is what you really need,,

The initial bonding is so intense,,yes,,I know exactly,,and it is this 'Bonding' feeling that makes woman forget who he is/what he as done,,take him back,,in times of lonliness, anger,,frustration,,and forgiveness of him suddenly like nothing happened. We sit and adore them like a new born pup,,just watching them,,in amazement, silent,,inextricably drawn to them,,to cuddle, be close,,take care of them and give them affection... Suddenly,,something comes over you,, and you HAVE to be with them, call them..text them,,something,,you want and need to get through to them,,,and when you are NC, you have to remind yourself of the damage,,think of the mind games,,the trap he put you in,,,and try to pry yourself away from the bonding,,,it is difficult,,that is why you need tools, discussion, books, and self-reminders..especially the mind games,,the word salad he put you through,,they are still doin' that somewhere else, ,,, it is much better to be free of the stress... Especially when we start to learn a bit about them,,the temptation is there to call them and say "I know what you did to me" and get into a power struggle. Not wise to do. Felt like doin' just that today. Don't want to go there with a sociopath.
May 12 - 5PM
broken23
broken23's picture

its like being addicted to a

its like being addicted to a drug. if its there in front of you, much less hugging you, you will want to take it. its only with rehab (no contact) can you even begin to see the harmful effects. and just like with drugs there is a relapse. when the n comes back into our sight, we lose ability to see clearly. youre not the only one who acted like this. there are so many times where he was treating me like shit and i just clung on harder and harder.
May 12 - 6PM (Reply to #13)
Barbara (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

it is

as explained in WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS - pathologicals work on and trigger the same hormones that are activated by crack cocaine... it isn't LIKE - it IS being addicted to a drug - your own hormones! ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 12 - 6PM (Reply to #14)
better off
better off's picture

OMG, Barbara... I was

OMG, Barbara... I was getting telepathic msgs from you, lol. I JUST posted to loveofmylife that the feelings she was getting from contact were the same as crack!!
May 12 - 11PM (Reply to #15)
Barbara (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

uh oh

now don't start thinking I'm using NLP on you guys!! seriously now... :P ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 12 - 10AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

paralyzed.......

i felt like that early on.....paralyzed.....on our wedding night....when he was so nasty to me....i just felt paralyzed.... he'd conned me out of my car and every cent i had in the world....so he had me economically trapped..... but it was beyond that, even... as time went by....the times i felt the most paralyzed were when he was having his rages..his verbal and emotiional attacks on me.....he would STARE at me before they began...just this malicious evil STARE.....i really felt like i was paralyzed and couldn't run or walk away....i couldn't move.....i felt like a mouse on one of those glue traps......it was horrible...a horrible terrifying feeling.....
May 12 - 10AM
loveofmylife
loveofmylife's picture

Scoop

I understand how you feel completely! It is a strange, magical power they have over us! I've told my N that when I met him for the first time (for about 2 minutes), it hit me "like a ton of bricks" and it was love at first site. We instantly bonded, spent all our time together and both described it as an intense bond. He told me "we have such a special relationship; an intense bond we had right from the start, a comfort level and trust level that is very rare". So I thought it was real for him too. And it felt like an arm had been chopped off my body when we started parting ways. He seemed like an integral part of me. It was the most distressing part of my life as well. And I know what you mean by the push/pull. He verbally abused me, I pulled away and was hurt, he called and was charming again, we would share our innermost thoughts again, until he found the next thing to abuse me about or until he ignored me or pulled away emotional because he was dating around, and then he would reach out to me again and I would feel close again...over and over and over.... it was awful. He would tell me he wanted no personal relationship, yet he called 10 times a day and emailed 20 and texted 5 (just like he has for years!) To me, that is WAY more than a business relationship! I told him I needed him to leave and he left the company. He called and said "you seem overwhelmed, please let me help you". I viewed that as an olive branch and remorse and reparations and let him back in, until he abused me the next time. And when he had decided their was no personal future for us is when the all out abuse started. When he asked me if I was still sleeping with my husband (therefore not physically spearated) and I wouldn't answer the question, he knew it wasn't going to happen anytime soon. That is when the horrible verbal and emotional abuse started. And like you, I acted in ways I never have. I also felt obsessed and like I was a stalker or something. Felt like I was going crazy. And I'm a super stable person!!! No one would ever think that of me. So I get it!!! And i have to read WWLP
May 12 - 1PM (Reply to #10)
Barbara (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

nothing magical

It is a strange, magical power they have over us! Nothing 'magical' at all Often it's NLP. NLP = NeuroLinguistic Programming - used in sales, marketing, politics and... seduction/ mind control It can be very helpful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming#Techniques But in the 'hands' of a pathological it is DEADLY, taking months for you to heal and deprogram from once you go No Contact.: http://www.cultcontrol.com/?hop=20754 http://www.dating-advice-coach.info/SeductionTechniques.htm http://www.coverthypnosisguide.com/nlp-mind-control.php http://www.nlpandhypnosis.com A GREAT GRAPHIC THAT EXPLAINS HOW NLP WORKS: http://www.nlpmind.com/images/ss.gif ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 12 - 8AM
Barbara (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

WWLP

WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS explains this process beautifully - from the NLP & Mind Control to the manipulation and up-regulation of our own hormones. Also mentions how they get us to act against our own self-interest AND out of character. ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 12 - 5PM (Reply to #2)
Monica
Monica's picture

Acting out of character

Barbara...I was just thinking about this today...I acted totally out of character after becoming "involved" with xN/P. I did things that I never, ever did during the first over four DECADES of my life. And I put myself at risk, big time, because of the things I allowed to happen when I was with him. My head knows about the manipulation and mind control and hormones...but my heart and emotions still cannot comprehend how/why I allowed myself to do the things I did, and be treated the way xN/P treated me. I even once told xN/P, after he accused me of changing and not liking who I had become (which was after I started standing up to him and pulling away from him) that "I don't even recognize myself anymore." They change everything we ever were, and we don't even see what is happening until it is too late and we are destroyed by them. It's like they put us into this trance and when we wake up, we don't recognize ourselves or anything or anyone around us, and everything that happened to us while we were in that trance is just all fuzzy and vague. My therapist is going to step up treating my PTSD by seeing me more often. But I know she can't give me back those "lost" years when I was in that trance. I have never hated anyone in my entire life. NEVER. That isn't who I am. But I hate xN/P with a passion and will never forgive what he did to me. Never. I hope he rots in hell.
May 12 - 6PM (Reply to #3)
Barbara (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

not 'like'

It's like they put us into this trance and when we wake up, we don't recognize ourselves or anything or anyone around us, and everything that happened to us while we were in that trance is just all fuzzy and vague Not LIKE -- it is!! ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 12 - 7PM (Reply to #4)
Monica
Monica's picture

Barbara - 18 months from what point or event?

Barbara...my head hears what you say. I was brainwashed, manipulated, controlled. 18 months minimum to heal. Therapy. Anti-depressants. NC. I am doing all of that. My question is...18 months from what point? From the point of last contact, whether it was me or him that made contact? From the point of my realizing that I want him out of my life? What constitutes that "starting" point for the minimum 18 months of healing? This would be a hell of a lot easier if I could just pay for a lobotomy or electroshock therapy and fast-track all the pain and humiliation and disbelief and memories out of my head physically.
May 12 - 9PM (Reply to #7)
hitandrun
hitandrun's picture

Lobotomy Sounds Good To Me, Monica!

If I could pay to have him shocked, cut out, scraped, burned, medicated, WHATEVER out of my brain I would gladly sell everything I own to do it. This sucks. I hate it. I want my life back. I wish everyone could have their life back before the HellBoys came a callin'. I pray for better times ahead...
May 13 - 7PM (Reply to #8)
Monica
Monica's picture

Hitandrun...I would pay, too, and sell everything...

...if I could eliminate xN/P from my brain physically and immediately. I fantasize about being able to have surgery to CUT him out of my brain...no memories of him at all, no memories of us, no pain and hurt for me. Go under anesthesia at 8 AM and wake up with it ALL GONE at 9 AM. I, too, would give anything if this could happen. I hate it, too. I want my life back and have too many days of doubt that I will ever get it back unless I can get away from here and start completely over...another town, another state, far away, new faces and much better prepared for the evil that is out there. I, too, pray for better times ahead for all of us. And horrific times ahead for the xN/P.
May 12 - 7PM (Reply to #5)
Barbara (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

starting point

when these two things have happened: COMPLETE & UTTER NO CONTACT AT ALL (or email only for those parenting with these creeps) THERAPY STARTED once both those things are in place and ongoing - the 18 months starts counting... ONE slip on NC, and you are back to square one. ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 13 - 7PM (Reply to #6)
Monica
Monica's picture

So his last "end run" contact, under the guise of a business ...

...call to me 5 weeks ago, would be considered "contact??" Is that my new starting point? Or is it just contact initiated by me that counts toward the "countdown?"