God and karma

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#1 May 7 - 10PM
Susan32
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God and karma

When my ex-N D&D'd me, it was a painful time in my life. I had lost a friend to cancer... and my ex-N was STILL cold and brutal, STILL engaging in public humiliation and putting ALL the blame on me. A normal person would've apologized or taken the heat off. Right after the D&D,I found out he already had a girlfriend... who moved from LA to the Southwest to be with him. I was still traumatized, and I felt sickened when I read not long after that the both of them had tied the knot and had kids. Here I was, suffering from PTSD, still licking my wounds... and he had had a wedding and domestic tranquility... I was devastated, the one thrown away like trash...

Even now I wonder, when will karma kick in?

The Book of Isaiah says,"Thus as you sow, thus shall you reap." Paul, in his epistle to the Romans, says, "Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord." The Bible also says that the Lord is close to the brokenhearted.

Buddhism teaches that actions have consequences. Ill treatment of others merits a lower rebirth (such as an animal);those who live self-centered,narcissistic lives are doomed to be hungry ghosts. Karma bears fruit.

Sometimes I wonder, when will I get my justice? Does God care?

May 11 - 8PM
Susan32
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"I'm angry, frustrated,and in pain"

That's what Tiger Woods recently whined and bawled about to PEOPLE magazine. What about his wife, the mother of his VERY young kids? And all he does is feel sorry for himself. It's narcissistic injury that he didn't win a golf tournament. And his lawyer is going to try to strongarm Elin over visitation/custody. Tiger, since you're Buddhist, haven't you heard of karma? Oh, you're experiencing it now...
May 11 - 10PM (Reply to #43)
Barbara (not verified)
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Tiger Woods

http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2010/01/19/tiger-woods-enters-sex-rehab guess you missed this thread but he'll just use that 'karma' to get sympathy for himself, like a classic Narc. Karma is a spiritual learning experience. But since they are not human they learn ZERO. So it's not karma in the way Tiger deserves it. He doesn't get it. They never do. BTW I heard Tiger met Buddha, called him a fat a** and kicked his butt... and took his address book of all his friends and called all the women for a date! THAT's a Narc for you. ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 12 - 4PM (Reply to #46)
Susan32
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This is disgusting

I read at TMZ or Gawker that Tiger Woods' lawyer is going to be strongarming Elin when it comes to visitation/custody. After all Tiger has done, he wants a power play... He's going to be forcing himself on his soon to be ex and his children... after all the children have gone through (well, they're too young to understand) LOL at the Buddha joke--the only women in Buddha's address book would be nuns sworn to celibacy... well, he'd prey on the vulnerable ones, being a tiger...
May 12 - 5PM (Reply to #47)
Barbara (not verified)
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the only women in Buddha's

the only women in Buddha's address book would be nuns sworn to celibacy... uh... That's the JOKE!! Tiger can kiss his a** goodbye. His credibility is shot and Elin's got far too much public support. Tiger doesn't really care about those kids anyway. ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 11 - 11PM (Reply to #44)
quietude (not verified)
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LOL

"BTW I heard Tiger met Buddha, called him a fat a** and kicked his butt... and took his address book of all his friends and called all the women for a date!" BWWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Greatness!!!
May 11 - 11PM (Reply to #45)
Barbara (not verified)
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quietude

I'll be here all week... ... please throw money ;) ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 9 - 8PM
Barbara (not verified)
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how dare we

- How dare you turn out to be a person with feelings. - How dare you say 'OUCH YOU HURT ME' - How dare you complain about having your character shredded - How dare you intrude on his 'reality' and his story of being YOUR 'victim.' - How dare you - tell the truth. It's on My Story... it's also on my blog about psychopaths: http://thestumblingblock.wordpress.com ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 9 - 9PM (Reply to #39)
Susan32
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A friend of mine quoted you-before you had a blog

Back in '96,a friend of mine said of my future ex-N,"He's punishing you for being human." You summed up my experience. My ex-N knew when I asked personal questions about his family, why he was vegetarian, that didn't fly as me "hitting on him"--that would've been laughed at at the Dean's office. He was so cowardly he knew his lies wouldn't fly. He had tried shredding my character freshman year--but everyone else took sides--AGAINST HIM. When it was revealed my ex-N had an LA girlfriend, HE was the one called a jerk. His story of being my victim didn't stand. Telling the truth, being a person with feelings--that SAVED ME. My ex-N told me "You see nobility in suffering." Didn't Viktor Frankl find nobility in his suffering in the Shoah, prompting him to write "Man's Search for Meaning"? Didn't my ex-N's idol, Ludwig Wittgenstein, find nobility in suffering when he penned his Tractatus as a POW? Didn't my ex-N's idol, St. Augustine, find nobility in his suffering when he wrote his "Confessions",about his long, painful journey from a selfish life to a God-filled one? Finding nobility in suffering is what the truly great philosophers have done.* *As Alanis would sing,"Isn't it ironic? Doncha think? A little too ironic?"
May 9 - 9PM (Reply to #40)
Barbara (not verified)
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nobility

Finding nobility in suffering is what the truly great philosophers have done. for victims - sure for Narcs - hell, no way ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 9 - 9PM (Reply to #41)
Susan32
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That explains my ex-N's mediocrity

Enjoy some ironies here (thanks for your blog!!!! ;) My ex-N bragged about a Wittgenstein/Augustine book that would've taken a decade to write... and would've been published when the Class of 2010 were freshmen... he's been published THREE TIMES in obscure philosophical journals in the past decade since D&D. As for me, I've had a continuous published writing career for the past 7 years. Writing about religion and philosophy, of course. For some reason I feel like bragging and rubbing it in for the ex-N who's the joyless type! He said I didn't take life seriously enough.
May 8 - 7AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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God, Karma and Psychopaths.....

i personally believe that Psychopaths are NOT HUMAN... i believe Dr. Robert Hare (the sexiest man alive) and others have PROVEN that already.... i believe that psychopaths are the vampires and monsters of legend and folklore..... and i believe PSYCHOPATHS are what the Bible is referring to as REPROBATES...as in the origial definition.. 'one who is predestined to damnation'..... i believe psychopaths are the embodiment of evil on this earth......that evil in and of itself is a FORCE..which must have a BODY to work through....and that psychopaths are pretty much Satan's fingerpuppets..... they are not human...they are not animal... they are monsters....the damned..... Dr. Scott Peck says in his book People of the Lie "I have learned nothing in twenty years that would suggest that evil people can be rapidly influenced by any means other than raw power. They do not respond to either gentle kindness or any form of spiritual persuasion with which I am familiar." having been married to a reprobate for 17 years...and having watched that reprobate die.....i concur.... i believe reprobates (psychopaths) have been turned over to satan for the destruction of the flesh.... Romans 1:28-32 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
May 8 - 4PM (Reply to #19)
Susan32
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If they're predestined, it's not their fault

Unfortunately, what you're saying is the Narc's ultimate wet dream-- they're not human, they're predestined--therefore, NO NEED FOR ACCOUNTABILITY. The Bible discusses responsibility, and that those who sin pay for THEIR sins. They do have to take ultimate responsibility--even if that means going to Hell. Besides, the Bible has examples of reprobates who turned their lives around. Paul had been killing Christians till Jesus appeared saying,"Why are you persecuting Me?" Jesus said to the adulteress, who had been toying with the hearts and bodies of men,"Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more." Of course,there's repentance. That's a matter of FREE WILL. If a reprobate wants to get right with God (or not),that's their choice. Nobody is predestined. We are free to choose God.. or evil. God didn't force Adam and Eve to eat from the tree. It was THEIR choice.
May 8 - 7PM (Reply to #20)
Barbara (not verified)
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DEAD WRONG

Nobody is predestined Nobody HUMAN we are NOT TALKING ABOUT REAL, HUMANS here... Ns will never repent, they don't believe they have anything to repent for - they wouldn't know what accountability was if it bit them on the a** - because they are SHEER EVIL Ns chose evil, its inborn - and VERY PREDESTINED and until you see that you will be targeted by them again & again. NarcNarc was right on target ~~~~~ NOT ALL ENEMIES ARE CREATED EQUAL by Anna Valerious This post is in response to a comment on the last post. As a preamble to this post I'd like to ask for the indulgence of my non-Christian readers. As difficult as you know it to be to extricate from a narcissist, especially a family narcissist, Christians are rendered much more susceptible to narcissist control because of the powerful clubs that misinformed Christianity hands over to malignant narcissists. So, hopefully, you'll be patient when my posts focus on problems for Christians, especially Bible-verse-twisting antics of the narcissists and ill-informed Christians who often unwittingly support the narcissists. ********************************* "I have heard every argument under the sun by ex-cult members not to turn away from this evil, and to in fact continue to try and reach them since God himself doesn't reject them (they believe). They use Jesus' words in Matthew 5:44, to pray for, love and do good to your enemy, and sometimes I myself wonder how to reconcile this verse and the Timothy verses in this situation. Surely the malignant narcissist is our enemy, yet Paul tells us to turn away from them. Of Whom then was Jesus talking about in Matthew?" ************************************ Paul, in the Timothy letter (2 Tim. 3:1-5), carefully exposes the behaviors of wicked persons as important context before the instruction is given to walk away from them. Yes, the wicked man is an enemy. On the other hand, not all enemies are wicked men! Christ and Paul were not talking about the same people or persons. Let me elaborate. There is a certain level of chutzpah required to make the assumption that "all people who oppose me are my enemy and are therefore evil". This is the baseline assumption of the narcissists. Disagree with them and you are targeted for destruction. You are their enemy and you are evil. Early in Christ's "Sermon on the Mount", which begins in Matt. 5, He set the theme for the instruction to follow: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." Matt. 5:17-20 The rest of the chapter Christ repeats the theme, "You have heard that it was said..." followed by His teaching. From whom did people hear the "it was said" that Christ was countering or expanding on? The religious leaders. Those Pharisees and teachers of the law whose level of righteousness was exposed by Christ as being inadequate for entering the "kingdom of heaven". "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' " Matt. 5:43 That was the "sage" teaching of the Pharisees and lawyers. Christ sets that teaching on its head. This teaching was based on Levitical law but had been perverted by the religious leaders' interpretations. It was the perversion Christ was setting about to correct! Let's consider who Christ was talking about when He refers to "your enemy". He was talking about those whom the religious leaders commonly categorized as such. During all of Christ's earthly ministry He worked to overcome the extreme national pride and the religious bigotry of a people who felt assured of their superiority in God's eyes. They were a people who considered others to be enemies simply because they were in a different class of society or of a different nationality. The Jews, most especially the religious leaders, were very resistant to the Roman rule they were under in Christ's (and Paul's) day. Israel was one of the most difficult nations for the Romans to manage. It was not uncommon for a Roman soldier to commandeer a passerby to carry something for them for a distance down the road (it was Roman law that they could do this). The Jews would often resist the order of the Roman soldier. The Jews chafed under this type of thing because it was a reminder that they were a conquered people. This was a reality they liked to deny to themselves as evidenced by the Pharisees preposterous response to Christ when they stated that they had never been slaves to any man. (John 8:33) So, Christ, in teaching the people how to behave like God's children instructed them to cheerfully walk that mile with the Roman and volunteer to walk another with them. The Roman was most definitely an enemy to the Jewish mind, but was he evil? No. There would be no evidence of that in a short encounter, so the assumption must be that he isn't. The kind of wickedness defined by Paul is not going to be perceived by a short encounter. The exposure of truly evil people can only occur over time and with multiple encounters under varied circumstances. Christ defined how we should think and behave toward those who may oppose us; those whom we may be inclined to think of as our enemy, but who are just average people. They may have prejudice against us for whatever their reasons. If we are consistently kind and helpful it is likely they will dump their prejudices at some point. We, as Christians, should not do anything to further provoke someone who may dislike us. Our attitude is to be benevolent and will be demonstrated by our doing our best to seek their good. Christ consistently worked to expand the minds of the people to look past class and nationality--to look at someone in need as their neighbor. The story of the good Samaritan was to illustrate "who is my neighbor?" To the Jews a neighbor was of their same level in society in addition to being a fellow Jew. A "neighbor" was their peer. Period. The Samaritan's definition was the godly one; the person you are in a position to both see their need and to help is your neighbor. The fellow Jews who walked by the beaten Jew on the road were able to justify leaving him bleeding and barely conscious because he was not one of them by their very narrow partisan definitions. Obviously, just because someone doesn't like us we are not free, as Christians, to reciprocate with hate and bad behaviors. The religious leaders of Christ's day did believe they were free to hate their perceived enemies, and to treat those perceived enemies badly or with indifference. Christ was countering this kind of thinking in Matt. 5:44. Someone may consider us their enemy, but that doesn't mean we are free to treat them like they are our enemy. On the other hand, when someone is clearly dedicated to being evil, insofar as we are able...we should walk away from them. There are plenty of other Biblical instructions to not associate with those who are evil. Christ was not negating the Scriptures. He was dealing with a different kind of enemy. Not all our enemies are evil...in fact, few are. Also, keep in mind that sometimes a person isn't able to walk away. In those instances, the Christian is instructed to submit without rancor or retaliation. When you have the power to choose to leave an abusive situation and or the presence of a wicked person, then there is NO Biblical basis for staying in the abuse. If a person was a slave in Christ's day there was no option to the slave to walk away, hence Paul's instruction to be obedient to their masters as if they were serving Christ Himself (Eph. 6:5-8). The Jews were a slave nation to Rome. Therefore, Christ's instruction to them was to not resist Roman rule, but to comply cheerfully as long as they were not having to violate one of God's laws. "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." Matt. 22:21 (The gigantic law structure of the religious leaders were often out of sync with God's laws. Christ was stripping away the man-made structures that had obscured the real requirements of God's laws (Mark 7:7). This is why He was accused as being "against the law" by the religious leaders...so was Paul. Both were against man's law usurping God's law. Example: "Corban" was a man-made law that could be used to override the 5th commandment of honoring one's parents. See Mark 7.) Prisoners are another example of a situation where a person is not able to walk away from evil doers. Paul was often a prisoner...his example is one of submission and Christ-like behavior toward his captors. The context of a certain Biblical instruction has to be considered when applying its teaching to the life. Is it addressing someone who can't walk away? If yes, then the instruction is quite different than for someone who is able to choose their own course. For example, Matt. 10:14. Even when we have proof that someone is clearly dedicated to being evil and have walked away from them doesn't mean we are now free to treat them badly. We can still follow the spirit of Christ's instruction in Matt. 5:44. You can still pray for and have genuine concern for (love) someone you've had to walk away from. That being said, going no contact from wicked people is not counter to Christ's spirit. So many people think that "no contact" is a retaliatory measure. They pretend it is an "attack". This is ridiculous on its face. Going "no contact" is a benevolent act. It is an acceptance of someone else's decision and acceptance of reality. It is a refusal to use force or manipulation to try to get someone to change. It is a recognition that evil is spiritually contagious and to remain in contact with someone who embraces evil greatly increases the likelihood that you will "learn his ways" (Prov. 22:25). You are making a choice based entirely on the evil person's choice to remain what they are. It is the only moral choice left when one is up against recalcitrant evil. Your ex-cult members (victims of narcissists) who believe they are morally obligated to remain in contact with exposed and unrepentant evil are spiritually naive. They wrest the Scriptures to their own destruction. (2 Peter 2:16) If they must judge you as being bitter in order to justify their view, then so be it. You know your heart much better than they. There are too many other Scriptures which command us in no uncertain terms to cut off from unrepentant evil to allow one verse to negate the force of their instruction. One verse can never be rightly used to negate other verses which seem to say something different. The responsible Bible student looks for the harmony. Christ's stated in Matt. 5:17-18 that He taught nothing in opposition to the Scriptures. Paul, who wrote under the inspiration of Christ's Spirit, would not give instruction that contradicted Christ's teaching during His earthly ministry. Is. 28:10 gives the principle of comparing Scripture with Scripture to learn truth. I hope I have adequately illustrated the harmony between Christ's instruction and Paul's. Their teachings are not in opposition; they are talking about different people. Prejudice, bad will, misunderstandings can all create a perceived enemy, but these kinds of enemies are not likely to be evil people. People who are not dedicated to a wicked course can potentially be won to Christ... but not if we treat them like they are our enemy just because they've declared us to be theirs. The gentle spirit of Christ is to be the mark of His followers. Sometimes that gentle spirit is required to give strong rebuke to evil doers and/or walk away. When Christ cleared the temple twice of the con men otherwise known as the "money changers", He was a terror to evil doers...but the average person was attracted to Him because of His scary rebuke of the con men. They recognized that Christ was being merciful and kind to them because it was the average person who was being used by the con men. After both incidences, the people gathered in great numbers around Christ in the temple to hear Him teach. There was no fear for them. They recognized Him to be a Deliverer. Sometimes we have to take a stand. Yes, that will make us a terror to evil doers, but the victims of the evil doers will recognize us to be standing with them. Taking a stand against evil doesn't make us "bitter". It means we are principled. We recognize there is no harmony between the philosophy of evil and the principles of God's kingdom. You can't stand on both sides when right and wrong are the issue. You can't harmonize evil with good. "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways." James 1:8 http://narcissists-suck.blogspot.com/2008/02/not-all-enemies-are-created-equal.html ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 8 - 8PM (Reply to #21)
Susan32
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If it's inborn and chosen,isn't that their fantasy?

That's the kind of thinking Narcs WANT... that what they do is INBORN so they can keep on getting away with it. As long as they can blame brain chemistry, predestination, there is no accountability. That's making excuses for evil behavior. If I scammed you out of your life savings and blamed it on my brain chemistry... it would still be a scam, and you'd still have grounds to take me to court. Psychopaths still end up in jail. Scott Peterson could've said that what he did was predestined... and the jury still would've convicted him. If my bad deeds are predestined, why bother doing good? Why do good? It begs the question.
May 8 - 8PM (Reply to #37)
Barbara (not verified)
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sheesh

unfortunately the MAJORITY of Psychopaths, as Dr. Hare says are 'subcriminal' and do NOT end up in jail. You're human THEY ARE NOT end of discussion. ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 8 - 8PM (Reply to #22)
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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psychopaths blame other PEOPLE.......

they would NEVER blame it on brain chemistry..because that would be a FLAW....and they are perfect.......they blame their behavior on other PEOPLE......
May 9 - 2AM (Reply to #27)
wallaby (not verified)
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Now THAT is the God's truth, NarcNarc

Forget quoting scripture back and forth - one can always find verse from different passages of the Bible and the different Testaments -to suit differing POV's (i.e. God vengeful, God forgiving, killing evil doers ok, killing never okay etc, etc.) , or quote Koran versus Buddha versus Bible etc..(and this deciding who interprets God's word the "right" way is what starts religious wars....and drives me nuts when it starts up as this is not a theological site and debating who is "right" in God's eyes does not lend itself to fruitful discussion... suffice it to say virtually anyone can find quotes in religious texts to prove their point) ANd I know when it starts one feels compelled to respond to show the opposite is also true so I see what you did that NN and B - But what you just said, NN, is the TRUTH IN MY EXPERIENCE and also is true according to Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders which is a bible of sorts in psychology circles - they NEVER BLAME THEMSELVES for ANYTHING. All blame is projected out. The interpretation based on SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that their brains are different - would mean to a N or Psycho that their brain chemistry is SUPERIOR. The would NEVER plead flaws, or weakness, ever. They re not looking for excuses for their behavior as they don't see anything wrong with it at all. The problem from their POV is they have to tolerate a bunch of weak, moaning, idiotic, pathetic, stupid lINFERIOR losers all around them - whose brain chemistry MUST be horribly deficient.
May 9 - 10PM (Reply to #28)
Susan32
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Everybody else is inferior

In one of my last conversations with my ex-N (after the D&D),I said in a condescending, grandiose tone, "Oh, you can get away with hurting people's feelings because you're soooo superior and I'm sooo inferior!" It showed a mirror to his real ugliness. He couldn't stand it. Vampires don't like the sunlight, or so I've heard.
May 10 - 6AM (Reply to #29)
Barbara (not verified)
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condescending

you can't hurt a Narc you can merely annoy him momentarily unfortunately you just gave him more supply here. ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 10 - 10PM (Reply to #30)
Susan32
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Bring garlic and a crucifix

Since he's an emotional vampire... I'll bring those with me. If I knew HOW to hurt a Narc, I'd give everyone here a How-To manual on it. As an XN boss once said, "Karma is a beotch, and she has puppies."
May 10 - 11PM (Reply to #31)
Barbara (not verified)
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how to hurt them

If I knew HOW to hurt a Narc, I'd give everyone here a How-To manual on it Thought that's what you've been trying to do ... imparting your knowledge on how to hurt them... and cause that illusive "Narcissistic Injury" ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 10 - 11PM (Reply to #32)
Susan32
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Only acts of God can do the REAL hurting..

'Cause He's God,and He's more REAL than illusive injury... That's the problem with the narcissistic injury. It looks nice... but doesn't have the bite.
May 10 - 11PM (Reply to #33)
Barbara (not verified)
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nope

they don't recognize God since they don't live in reality God's punishment is lost on them, too ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 10 - 11PM (Reply to #34)
Janet
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Oh absolutely. The jackass

Oh absolutely. The jackass N was the son of a Lutheran minister but also went to a Quaker school for a while. He would act so ridiculously "at peace". And drop lines like, "the forgiveness I need is will come from the grace of God hopefully". Like he has a free ride to be a freak on earth and hurt others at will but will probably have a clean slate once he kicks it. who really knows, I DO know, that I would not want to be like that for anything. He (and others like him) have made me so much more compassionate to others. Peace. J

Peace. J

May 10 - 11PM (Reply to #35)
Susan32
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"Once saved,always saved"

I've been to churches with the "once saved,always saved" doctrine... which basically says that if you're predestined and/or choose Jesus... you can get away with cr@p. Why is that Ns tend to use religion as their cover?
May 10 - 11PM (Reply to #36)
Barbara (not verified)
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perfect cover

http://revcjconner.com/?p=60 ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 9 - 12AM (Reply to #24)
loveofmylife
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narcnarc

absolutely. it is always someone else's fault. They are perfect and therefore could never make a mistake, and therefore will never apologize or repent.
May 9 - 3AM (Reply to #25)
Scoop
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I have the perfect exsample

I have the perfect exsample of how they never take the blame . When i confrounted my twat face narc on just why he chose to leave me the day i found out my mum was gravely ill he said " i spoke to someone and they said it was the right thing to do " when i asked which one of his friends had come up with this brain wave he wouldnt tell me . Suprise suprise . Now did he not tell me becaause he knew i would confrount the person or did he not tell me because there was no other person giving him this advice (apart from the voises in his head )either way he knew it was the wrong thing to do which sugests he knows right from wrong which sugest he knew he acted wrongly so there for he is an AHOLE .. Scoop x
May 9 - 1PM (Reply to #26)
Barbara (not verified)
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project all blame onto others

when I asked Narc #1 why he abandoned me when we were in college (and i was pregnant and didn't know it yet) and I never heard from him for 15 years he said "you smoked pot... I could have gotten in trouble with the Navy." and then... "my other girlfriend told me you drank and slept around" (NOT!) after I confronted him 15 years later, he now tells people I am still in love with him, a liar and psycho... sound familiar? LOL ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 9 - 12AM (Reply to #23)
loveofmylife
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narcnarc

absolutely. it is always someone else's fault. They are perfect and therefore could never make a mistake, and therefore will never apologize or repent.