After the dumping "lines"

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#1 May 2 - 7PM
hitandrun
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After the dumping "lines"

Stupid me looked at some old emails after he dumped me.

In one he said he was taking the weekend to think and "didn't want to hurt me anymore and missed me" and asked if we could meet somewhere the next weekend(this never happened of course).
And then he wrote he was "sorry for the trouble he caused me."

After I worked out the lease cancellation and found new tenants...that was it...no money...no communication...poof.

Is this typical b.s. lines they say at the end?

He ended our engagement over the phone and I have not seen him since.

May 3 - 7AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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same here.........

he told me for years......'i never loved you'...but when he i told him i was well aware of that and it dind't really sting..he would change it to ....'i tried to love you but you made it too hard'......then it was....i loved you once, but you drove me away'....if he was in a snit he would always spit at me....'i never loved you'.... but he told me that for years...it wasn't a breakup line..he had not breakup lines...his idea of a breakup was to just disappear......
May 3 - 5PM (Reply to #19)
gullablegull (not verified)
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Mine told me he never loved

Mine told me he never loved me too! Except mine said "the only woman he had ever been in love with was his Mother!"........... THAT alone should keep therapists busy you would think?
May 3 - 5PM (Reply to #20)
Susan32
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Mommy issues

One of my friends thought that my ex-N had Mommy issues. And she isn't even a trained therapist. She heard about how he treated me. My ex-N had a weird combination of effeminacy and boyishness. He'd walk delicately on the balls of his feet, have delicate and refined hand gestures, and sometimes a girly voice... and other times, quite butch. He tended to go for very maternal women--or very butch women. One of my friends told me that my ex-N was attracted to me "because I looked like a boy." Okay, analyze THAT one!
May 3 - 9PM (Reply to #22)
pantsonfire
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Parental Seekers

Hi Susan, I'm new to this forum but no stranger to the fallout having been in a 20 year relationship/marriage w/ a pathological man, i.e., co-morbid DX / Narcissism, Passive-Aggression, perhaps even histrionic. In hindsight, it rings so clear -back to day one when I met him. The clinical DX of N's stating it's a deep-seeded insecurity rooted in the first 5 - 7 years of life, meaning it's also hardwired, stunting emotional growth can, in my opinion, cause mannerisms and intelligence to be that of arrested development as well. I was blown away when I read about the "Parental Seeker" in Sandra Brown's book How to Spot a Dangerous Man, before getting involved. In their survival mode, as we all have survival mechanisms, they are trainable & learn how to cover shortcomings when they can. Body language can clue us into alot. I had no idea, rather, I worked w/ my wasband on his clumsy, sometimes offensive, bouncing boyish body language. Especially when he was to go before an interview panel for a promotion. I used to tell him you can't lay down in your chair! Had to use a video for him to see for himself cuz he didn't believe me. I am legally separating an officer w/ a metropolitan fire department who is so adept at surrounding himself w/ people who carry his load. He transferred to a busy station stating the crew there knew was so efficient, all he had to do was stand around with a clipboard. I ended up writing eight annual evaluations because he jammed himself up against the deadline by "playing" court sports at work instead of handling administrative duties. This was a year after I had brain surgery which pales in comparison to what I'm now facing in the aftermath of it all. Feels like an atrocity. During a 9-11 anniversary date I asked if the Department did anything to commemorate it and he said, "oh that's ancient history to me" and went on to criticize the Master of Ceremonies. Of course when 9-11 went down, his babble was to the tune of "it brings a tear to my eye" w/ underpinnings of bravado beneath the guise of heroism. Arghhhh, I could just puke. Trying not to rant here, but it's all bubbling to the top as I sort thru medical records for a disability atty - something my family law atty recommended. Once I'd made a list of all things I felt so bad/guilty about wondering how God might ever forgive me. I was emotional and distraught after the brain surgery. The hospital was like a warzone and going home felt like hostile territory. When sharing my guilt list w/ my 'wasband' wondering about forgiveness, he said, "God forgave Hitler" as the traipsed out the room. Zero empathy. After countless creative attempts to intimately engage this self-soothing (masterbation) man - unbeknownst to me- , because he counter-phobically lied indicating that now that he's "an officer" - he's not allowing any pornography in the firehouse. So noble and so out of the blue. He went on to say he never liked porn; thought it was debasing of woman. Once when trying to keep it spicy I thought some scantily clad snapshots would be fun - nothing graphic - he freaked out & couldn't snap a picture. I thought "whoa, I must look pretty bad behind the lens." His reaction really got to me so one day when he was at work I figured out the self-timer on the camera and wanted to see what 'feelin sexy' might look like on me. Not bad, I thought - so I took a few photos & gave them to him trying to assuage whatever the hell happened. That went on for a short while in hopes of a positive effect concerning intimacy, foreplay, etc. Fast forward: There was nothing I could do to engage this clumsy boy, but, diehard that I am, while separated (1st separation) I decided to have old implants improved as the weight loss from the brain surgery and subsequent surgeries had me down to 105 lbs. I ended up ferociously violated by the sociopathic surgeon (malpractice - who gave me mammoth implants when I clearly stated, in writing, what size I wanted- I have a bad back). Fast forward again: My wasband & I had a horrible argument where I was living and he disappeared. I got worried, drove to our house & there was a very eery feeling - a kind of empty squalor. I looked at the history on his computer to see if he might have been considering a movie or other venue. Much to my ignorant surprise the volume of porn that revealed itself floored me. Worse yet - titles like "Mommy's got Tits." I was mortified. I didn't look like a boy - rather, I lean towards feminine. He had told me it was the way he heard me talk to my young children (from previous relationships) that really impressed him. He said he saw I was a "good mom" - just what he was looking for! Barf. Kind of a circuitous route, this reply. Twenty years = many complications. These guys are thwarted in every possible way.
May 3 - 9PM (Reply to #23)
Susan32
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The mouth can lie,the eyes can be blank. but the body never lies

My ex-N was extremely fidgety. He'd simply blank out and look into space. He'd ask me tough philosophical questions, but if I asked him hard ones... he'd go mentally flaccid. A lack of give and take. There was something extremely boyish about him. He was once compared to a leprechaun... and he was the subject of some incredibly tasteless masturbation jokes. Talk about arrested development.
May 4 - 5PM (Reply to #24)
broken23
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susan how old was yours. its

susan how old was yours. its interesting my friends always commented on his body language. he was fidgety. Also very lazy at the same time- slept for hours.
May 4 - 5PM (Reply to #25)
Susan32
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Definitely May/December

When I first met my ex-N,I was 18,he was a young-looking 32. When I got the D&D... I was 22, and he was 36. He'd be almost 50 now. One of my friends at the time compared his body language to that of a little boy. And yeah, sometimes he'd fall asleep in the library.
May 3 - 6PM (Reply to #21)
Barbara (not verified)
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analysis

1. Ns are often enmeshed with their mother or father - unnaturally enmeshed 2. Ns are ANY SEXUALS... they will screw anything with an orifice in most cases ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 3 - 5AM
CarolKittyGale (not verified)
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why is it all so carbon copy...

OMG!!!!Scoop...do they all quote from the same lines... "I don't think I ever loved you" was a line my ex N used too... and when he went out of his way to tell me he had a new victim.."I am going to treat her better then I ever treated you" ...wouldn't be hard stupid...lol. but in the same sentence..."I have sooo missed your laugh" and "we have been through a lot together"(trying to keep it's options open)...NO!!! you put me through a lot and I let you... I have seen the word 'cloned' on here a few times and I think it must be true...
May 3 - 6AM (Reply to #17)
hitandrun
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Forgot that one

Yeah, he used that too. " I don't think I ever loved you." And this one: "How can I ever love anyone if I don't know how to love myself." Right......
May 3 - 6AM (Reply to #15)
Barbara (not verified)
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carolkittygale - here's why

http://www.lisaescott.com/2009/12/01/predictability-pathology ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 3 - 10AM (Reply to #16)
CarolKittyGale (not verified)
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Thank you

Thanks for the post...much appreciated and very enlightening and empowering x
May 2 - 8PM
Introspection
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Same here...

The after dumping lines used on me were "you are so unique and the ONLY love of my life," "I will ALWAYS love you" but the line he used to b/u with me was that he needed to "reconcile."...after our b/u, I got lucky and guessed his email password...boy was that revealing!!!...there were several "unique and always will love you" women in his life. Apparently dated them for a short period of time and was dumping them with these same lines. Like Janet, I did not know about mental illnesses so I was treating it as a normal b/u except that it didn't feel like one. This was my first time falling in love...bad choice!!! So I thought that was how it felt to loose a loved one...NOT...at least now I understand that I can fall in love again and if I don't land another N, I should be okay...:-)
May 2 - 10PM (Reply to #12)
Barbara (not verified)
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same here

first time I ever fell in love it was with an N (see my story for more) freak messed up my life for YEARS later and I kept thinking one day I would hear "I'm sorry" - 15 years he continued lying, blamed me and then smeared me... now on 2nd marriage to one of his harem from high school... ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 3 - 9PM (Reply to #13)
Introspection
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Hi Barbara...

I read your story a couple weeks ago but on your recommendation, I re-read it today....hmmmm, how should I say this? Your psycho-boy and my XN share in similarities. One thing that always bothered me about my XN was his inability to STOP flirting; he is incorrigiable. I grew acustomed to his flirtateous nature, after all I thought, he wasn't doing anything with them and I really wasn't the jealous type. During our four year "whatever it was," he spoke frequently of hix 2 ex-wives and their divorce proceedings. He came out ahead both times (no child support and he prepare the settlement in both cases) AND both his ex-wives still contact him DAILY...he has a teenage daughter with 1st x and a son with the 2nd x. The clever way he handled both divorces speaks to a VERY cunning person. Deep in my subconcious, I've always known that this bastard has the ability to physically HURT me or affect my career....yet he has not once threatened me. Add to that the fact that during our "whatever it was," I deviated from the "sexual" norm...more liberal in my approach and in constant "conflict" with myself. Too much of me was compromised and there was too much abuse and brainwashing to last me lifetime. I dislike myself for allowing this jackass to alter my existence and use me! We should NEVER allow anyone to take over the way they did us...we gave so MUCH of us and all for what...a little attention! I log-on daily and read over stories on this forum and like many posters, feel the pain and hate for what happened to us..to me...there is a "dark" place in me that I do not like to visit...I will not allow the N to take anymore of me... Three years later...I'm doing so much better and keeping a positive attitude in life. I feel the need learn more about this mental illness and like to help others on this forum; particularily those who have been recently dumped...I feel their pain for I have walked in their shoes...getting over this ordeal is difficult but not impossible...
May 2 - 7PM
Janet
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Yes, same type of lines for

Yes, same type of lines for me. After ending our 4 year "thing", living together for 2.5 years of that. I moved out, thinking (hello denial) that we would work on our problems and get back together since we were soul mates. He said, "I don't want to be your boyfriend or anything that causes you more pain". He continued to call and email (at this point i had no idea what an N or a P was) I was still hoping it was SIMPLY his addictions that were causing his confusion. A lot of lame apologies followed with mean and confusing behavior. But after he located new supply I was simply no longer needed. Peace. J

Peace. J

May 3 - 3AM (Reply to #2)
Scoop
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Lines used after the dumping

Lines used after the dumping which always came about after i stood up for my self and ripped off his mask . "i never loved you i never have it waw all a lie " "i have been trying to get rid of you for ages ".. and the best line is "the reason you liked haveing sex with me so much is because i am in touch with my feminine side ,cock and lesbian is a good combination" Scoop x
May 4 - 5PM (Reply to #9)
broken23
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told me... i loved you but i

told me... i loved you but i have been mentally checked out....ok wtf what does that mean then it turned into i could only love you some of the time. if i didnt get mad so much he may have been able to love me all the time.
May 4 - 5PM (Reply to #10)
Barbara (not verified)
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izzy23

that's NarcSpeak... means NOTHING read the NARCSPEAK section at left for more WTF moments... he couldn't love anything... except maybe his dick ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 4 - 5PM (Reply to #8)
broken23
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told me... i loved you but i

told me... i loved you but i have been mentally checked out....ok wtf what does that mean then it turned into i could only love you some of the time. if i didnt get mad so much he may have been able to love me all the time.
May 3 - 4AM (Reply to #3)
seeingthelight
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I had some pretty

I had some pretty spectaculat dumping lines too, after a vicious cycle of hoovering and D & D over the space of a few weeks, when he finally admitted that he had been dating the world (which he had been denying for ages) I told him that if he ever contacted me again I would report him to the police for harassment he sent a text that went something like this..... I am trying to be honest with you now. I've never felt about anyone the way I feel about you, none of those other girls compare to you, I think you are amazing etc etc. If I don't hear back from you I will TRY not to contact you. This just gave me a moment of clarity, I thought what the hell am I doing and I could read this text clearly, firstly the absolute cheek of trying to be honest with me NOW, about 18 months too late pal! That I will never compare to the other girls, rubbish! Its just that I've finally seen sense now more like and he can't manipulate me anymore!!! And the last part, I will TRY not to contact you, please!!!! That's when I changed my phone number, 2 weeks of no contact so far, although I'll be honest it feels like longer which is great. It still hurts of course but when you start to rebuild yourself everyday ot strengthens your resolve, its the only way to move forward! x
May 3 - 8AM (Reply to #4)
Barbara (not verified)
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the lines

my first Narc - got me pregnant then just disappeared. 15 years later when I confronted him he said it was because I smoked pot (in 1976!) once. When I called him on that I became an obsessed, jealous lunatic Psycho-Boy says I was so fat and ugly he couldn't bang me so I became an obsessed, jealous lunatic exNH just thinks I am out of my mind - enjoying the "drama" and he keeps saying he loves me and I should come back... they all s*ck! ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 3 - 5PM (Reply to #5)
Susan32
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The love of drama

As I told one of my friends, it could've been resolved junior year. The eyes of Narcs can be total black holes, but body language betrays even the best liar. I'd often ask my ex-Narc,"Should we still be going out to lunch together? Am I boring you? Do you respect me?" as well as "Did you go with anybody?" and my fave "You're acting like you're hiding something. What's bothering you?" Didn't get any answers. My ex-Narc could've said,"I have a girlfriend in LA",I would've stopped going out to lunch with him, I would've been a little disappointed, but it would've ended with mutual respect, honest, trust, and NO DRAMA. But no, my ex-N preferred drama. And lots of it.
May 4 - 5PM (Reply to #6)
broken23
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funny how you start thinking

funny how you start thinking you like drama. i felt the exact same way. even though i was with him forever and we were planning a future, i always said if you feel like there is someone else, please let me know, or if you arent sure, dont waste my time. i was planning on changing my jobs, we were sharing money...and ofcourse nope. not until he was ready, had someone lined up and ready to go, did he leave...and even then he was trying to blame me because i didnt call for two days because i was upset as the basis for the end.
May 4 - 5PM (Reply to #7)
Susan32
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Eerie, isn't it?

That's why my friend in Washington DC called what he did EVIL. He didn't leave till he had a fiancee (of course,he blew up when I congratulated him on his engagement,and told him to be happy with her,rather than unhappy with me) It must've been awkward for his colleagues when he ended up marrying my clone... and after all the DRAMA. I didn't want the drama;he certainly did.