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#1 Mar 28 - 8AM
Healingnow
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thoughts please

Hi,
Please can you tell me if you think he was purposefully winding me up with this reply to an email conversation.
This was ages ago before I discovered narcissism. As I have just seen him and it has sent my head spinning I am trying to get back on track. I've just read some emails from the past and have seen stuff in them that I think was put in to get to me. I didn't see this at the time because I was just so upset about everything. His 'problem' was ED. I knew at this point that he was with OW.

'You sent me a text last night at 1.40 am – I realise you need to tell me things, please use the email! I It’s hard enough doing the shift work, and so my sleep is all over the place as you know. Also, I don’t want to be woken when i have to be up at 4.30 am to work. Not that I’m getting a lot of sleep, it is just that if I do go to sleep, I’d like to stay that way!
Before you let your mind run away again, I must remind you that I have a problem, which I hope will get better one day, but for now is still very much with me'.

Mar 28 - 10AM
foolmeonce
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Emails

I actually find reviewing his old emails very helpful. When I am thinking of our relationship and wanting to romanticize it, I only need to pull out an old email to see how full of sh*t he was. I can read an email where he is professing his love and telling me how sincere he is and how wrong I was to think he was lying and then think about the next day when he went away with someone else or told me the complete opposite. The emails keep me sane. I see the pattern and the manipulation and they help me erase any positive memories I have. Your mind can play tricks on you, but what's in black and white cannot.
Mar 28 - 9AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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the email

if it was shorter, it could have been written by the psychonarc...Quietude is right...it STINKS of entitlement..how DARE you bother him!...he's BUSY!...he doesn't have time for this!...and then he plays victim...he's hardly getting any sleep...and that's YOUR FAULT...you're inconveniencing him with your thoughts!...how DARE you... what a piece of crap....
Mar 28 - 9AM (Reply to #7)
Healingnow
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Yeah

Thanks for that, I hadn't even seen it this way about the entitlement. All I know was that it turned my stomach at the time when I first read it. I was reeling fromt the d&d and he had turned so uncaring towards me. Obviously the late night call was me in shock and not having a clue what was happening. If I had treated someone like he did me I would answer the phone and give time to help the other over the shock. I think he enjoyed the attention and thats why he did it all anyway.
Mar 28 - 9AM
quietude (not verified)
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healingnow

So this is an old e-mail I take it? To me, this is so typical of them, especially during D&D. The whole thing stinks of ENTITLEMENT. How DARE you interfere with his schedule! I have kept e-mails similar to this for times I was sad and missing him to help demonstrate the sheer nastiness of an N. So you're asking if he's purposely trying to wind you up or if he's genuinely annoyed? Who knows? And it doesn't matter. Either way, this screams A-HOLE. These kind of e-mails helped keep me far, far away from the N. And the part about, "Not that I’m getting a lot of sleep", that sounds JUST like mine. He was such a martyr...poor him, he always made sure I was feeling sorry for him. The reminding you he has a problem...GUILT TRIP. Back then, I'm sure he accomplished what he wanted to, which is 'do not disturb the KING', unless something is requested of you. Boy, can I relate to this! Be glad this nasty creature is out of your life, and you don't have to deal with this immature tantrum BS.
Mar 28 - 9AM (Reply to #5)
Healingnow
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thanks quietude

Yes it was at the d&d stage and he was very full of himself and arrogant. This email was from a while ago I have nc with him now. I meant was he winding me up getting me to think he was having sex with the new woman. making the point that he wasn't getting much sleep. He must have thought when he put this that I would assume he was up late with nooky and then he tells me not to let my mind run away with me and makes sure I realise he isn't doing that cos he has a problem. You see I saw him the other day from afar and just his voice and presence has thrown me into believing that he is functioning normally in the world. Reading the emails will help me back on the path to seeing what he really is. Straight after I saw him I went into thinking it was all me from the blame shifting he did at the time. I must get rid of these lovely memories of the kind caring him so without seeing him I need to find a way to know that he is a narc.......right now my brainwashed brain needs some guidance to return to where I was before.
Mar 28 - 8AM
Monica
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The only way I started to really heal....

...was to erase all "signs" of him in my life, both personal and professional, and to block all possible ways of him contacting me (or at least all the ways I could considering my professional ties with him and I'm working on that area). Erase all his texts, emails, voice mails, throw away all letters and gifts, ignore all his attempts to contact you if he does end-runs around your NC. White out his name on everything you have his name written. Erase all "signs" of him from your life. Educate yourself. Reading has done me so much good. My latest books were "Without Conscience" and "Snakes in Suits." And I have read many others, too, in the last month. This has helped me tremendously to see just how dangerous and evil these creatures are and I know I don't want anything to do with dangerous and evil creatures! I personally have found that erasing him from my past was a great way to give me strength to keep him out of my present and future. Mine also acknowledged that he had "problems." Yeah, mine had ED, too, but I never brought that up to him (I'm way too nice and that is my biggest problem). But mine knew he had serious personality problems and told me several times he was "working on that." News flash bud....you are way too old to be able to change now, you can "work on that" all you want and it won't get you anywhere because you cannot change. In your post you wrote that you went back through his emails from the past and saw stuff in them that was meant to "get" to you. So...your N has much bigger "problems" than ED. He is disordered and sick. He is trying to keep contact with you to keep you on the hook so he can reel you back in when he needs the supply you give. Cut that line!! Set yourself free. Don't let him torture you more than he already has, and is still doing. Block. Erase. Ignore. Read. Talk with a therapist (I do). He isn't worth your time, trouble and all the good things you have to offer a normal, caring, loving man - things he can never, ever be.
Mar 28 - 2PM (Reply to #2)
joeP
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Yes me too...

Instinctively (Before I found out what an N was) I erased her from my life. I deleted all texts, emails, her phone number, her email address, anything I could think of. I gathered EVERYTHING that she had ever given me (It fit into a paperbag) or reminded me of her and returned it. I just wanted NO connection to her whatsoever. Before deleting her from my life I sent a text telling her that I didn't want to ever see or hear from her again for any reason. I realy wanted her to get that I was done with her BS. This is what I had to do for me... So far so good, I have had NC for about 6 weeks now.
Mar 28 - 4PM (Reply to #3)
Monica
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I sent almost the exact same text to my xN/P

Telling him that I do not want to see him nor speak to him ever again. I had to "delete" him from my life. Just seeing his name, his phone number, records of old calls on my cell phone sent me into a panic attack. I wiped out my cell phone of all texts and records of calls, whited out his name on paperwork I have but cannot trash, threw away all personal items he had given me. (I didn't return them, I just trashed them.) The things he gave me would not even have filled a large paper lunch bag, that is how little he gave me. I am happy for your 6 weeks of NC! Mine hasn't tried to bother me directly in 3 weeks. If I could move to the other side of the country, you bet I would, just to get as far away from him as possible.