Boundaries with self absorbed family

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#1 Feb 5 - 10AM
greengirl91
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Boundaries with self absorbed family

I wasn`t sure whether or not to make this post, since it is not directely Narc related, but there are some stuff that maybe can be identified, by others as well, related to Narcs, origins, disordered, and the weird subject - relationship with their mothers.

I believe my father is sort of a Narc. He is definetly disordered, but he doesn`t have all the symptoms of a classic Narc, the part with the cheating, pain, maddona-whore complex, though. But it has enough N traits.

One of them, and the reason why I feel the need to vent and space out these thoughts today, is his weird relationship with his mother, my grandmother. It is too close, dependent for a normal individual, to talk with his mother on the phone over 50 times/per day. That happened all over 20 years of my life, when I was living at `home`.

Now, since my grandfather has passed, he moved with his mother to take care of her. Because she is well sick, in a way, and cannot stand to be alone without her "boy" for one minute..it`s really sad and upsetting to watch. And there is a lot of tension and unsaid things..

Now that he is no longer talking to the phone with her all day, he continuously messages and phones me and it is upsetting. I put boundaries, and explained my limits, that it`s "too much" for me.

And speaking of guilt trips, and disordered ones!..

I am with them 100%, because between two evils (my mother and him) you gotta choose the less evil one. At least financially, because emotionally I no longer expect anything from my parents, they are both self absorbed.

BUT I cannot let them destroy me more than they arleady have until now. Family or no family, if someone is `crossing the lines` and becomes toxic and too much, you have to protect yourself and put boundaries.

And I believe this is another `root` of my guilt trips, that shows in my relationships with Narc men. This desire to come back, and "fix" the disordered ones.

The last message I sent to my father explaining what bothers me, in a polite but firm way of course. And told him to wish me good luck in my future searches for a job.

And I received back later a message from him where all he could talk to was his person, about how indignated he seem about my "rules" of talking. And I couldn`t help but think about the title of this forum "It`s all about him".

My father may not be a Narc in the true classical way with women exchanges and stuff like that, but you know, you have to protect yourself as you can and put boundaries.

I can`t let them destroy me more than they arleady have.

Judging after what destructive role models I had, you get used to `that` and may be tempted to think "well, this is all I`ll ever have, at least it`s better than nothing."

We get so used to receive only crumbs, and sometimes not even that, and we think this is all we`ll ever worth. Is it any wonder that we keep searching for the same crumbs, even if we had met maybe other types of men/people, who were offering us a full plate?..

I believe that first we have to learn to give to ourselfs, and grow a relationship with ourselfs, a HEALTHY one as much as possible. Put boundaries wherever and whenever it feels necessary, and hang in there, in your life even if now is poor, small and little.

As it is, it is ours. Let`s not let them take it away from us.

May you have a peaceful and blessed day, and thank you for letting me get this stuff out today! And for taking the time to read these lines.

Peace,

xx

Feb 7 - 5PM
harlemgurl
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Actualization.

I too have a toxic nuclear family. It took me 37 years to realize that my mother is a narcissist and I only made that discovery once I entered into a relationship with a crazy making Narcissist bullsh*t con artist who shattered my heart into a million pieces. The pain from that relationship was devastating but as I peeled back the layers of my own emotional onion I realized the deja vu of where I've seen my Narc ex's behavior before and it all started with Mommy dearest. My mother is the one who conditioned me to think so little of myself. Her needs always came first. She always plays the blame game and never apologizes or accepts responsibility for her poor choices. And to top the cake she's always lacked the ability to validate and nurture. My Narc ex is a total carbon copy of this behavior. I can't even remember my mother ever giving me a sincere hug or sharing an intimate moment with me. So yah. My Narc ex was my mother in another body. He lacked the same intimacy and carried around the same chip on his shoulder Since this discovery I have been empowered to create boundaries with Mommy Dearest cause for the first time I'm aware of her insidious toxic behavior. Before it was always me trying to jump through a circus ring on fire for her to hand me some crumbs of affection. But things are different now. I've called her out on her failure to be a good mother and I confronted her on never given me what a mother should. My goal isn't for her to change. My goal is to get out the feelings and give them back to their rightful owner. Yes. We need boundaries with toxic family; otherwise they'll drag us down to their own personal hell without a care. HG
Feb 5 - 12PM
Jannie In the Sun
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Ditto on Boundaries with Family

"Family or no family, if someone is `crossing the lines` and becomes toxic and too much, you have to protect yourself and put boundaries." - that is what I have to do also. I have my own problems with toxic family. On the surface, my parents seem friendly, kind and wonderful people. After company leaves, or the phone is hung up, out comes my mother's passive aggressive, multiple personalities and righteousness. Then my father either mirrors her or starts his own passive aggressive controlling ways. Crazy making behavior that reminds me too much of my oppressed childhood. After 2 months of living with my folks to help my mother recover from a near fatal and foolish accident, I had to GTFO. I love them and will always help in emergency situations, but they will never change and I know today that I cannot put myself in a situation that can harm me emotionally or physically. This forum has helped me realise this and be ok with ME and accept them just the way they are. I walk away when the toxic bs starts to fly. That has had to be my boundary. Good luck with your situation and take good care of YOU! jannie
Feb 7 - 10AM (Reply to #2)
greengirl91
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Thank you very much Jannie!

Thank you very much Jannie! You do that as well, protect yourself, be ok, feel great, live healthy and happy..If we don`t take care of ourselfs, than who will? Not the disordered ones, of course!! I wish you all the best as well in your healing, and thank you for your answer. Go Path Forward! >:D