Why do we fall for them?

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#1 Oct 29 - 8AM
NarcJunkie
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Why do we fall for them?

So yesterday was my last day at work and I managed to survive the leaving party and to stay NC all throughout the evening in spite of Narc's and OW's presence and I even managed to have a fairly good time.
Then I then went to a little bar with a male colleague of mine and we talked until the early morning hours. I had told him about my troubles before, but had never mentioned Narc's name. This time, when he asked, I told him, because it didn't matter anymore.
He was like: "What? Seriously? That guy? I had his number after 2 weeks! That guy is one of the worst egomaniacs I ever met!"

For the next hour or so I tried to justify myself... and as I tried to explain, I really wondered:
Why the heck DID I fall for him?
This collegue and another male friend of mine both saw through the Narc from the very beginning... why didn't I?? What's wrong with me that made me SO BLIND? Are guys better at spotting male Narcs because they are not dazzled by their charm?
Seriously, how could I have misinterpreted his character so severely when others saw it clear as daylight?

I know how I got hooked: he seemed so strong and protective, yet he opened up completely and became gentle and vulnerable in my presence and was so happy and so grateful whenever he could be with me. He made me feel smart, beautiful, strong and needed. This was my drug... and it was potent enough to blend out all the red flags apparently.
I am trying to understand this so I can rid of my blind spot and not fall into the same trap again.
How did you get hooked by your Narc? And what made you ignore the warning signs?

Oct 30 - 2PM
ValiditySeeker
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Maybe non-targets are better

Maybe non-targets are better at spotting them? After I was coldly dumped, my two female roommates told me that they hated him because they didn't think he treated me very well. My mother never liked him either. And they never said anything because they figured I knew what I was doing. I wish I had openly approached them and asked for their opinions. Maybe for those of you who are dating, that's something to put on your checklist: introduce him to everyone who cares about you and ask for their honest impressions. It would've saved me a lot of pain.
Oct 30 - 2PM
prettypeeved
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"Are guys better at spotting

"Are guys better at spotting male Narcs because they are not dazzled by their charm?" I think you may have something there, to be honest. I'm gay, and I was taken in by a male narc. However, I have repeatedly been able to spot bad-news female narcs (or borderlines, perhaps?) where straight guys just fall straight for it. I think what the narc does is go straight for the emotional jugular. They suss out what you want, then they offer it to you. Something you have an emotional need for. Once they've got you hooked it's very hard to handle. I've found that my intellectual mind and my emotional mind ended up at odds over and over again with him, and that's why it's hard to leave. In my particular case, I realise the Ice Queen figured out what was missing from my relationship with my partner. I think he's very adept at that. Every relationship has a compromise in it somewhere, and I reckon he figures out what it is, and offers one of the partners the very thing they're missing, the thing they've compromised on. He then inserts himself in, has some fun, strings them along...then once he's got what he needs and gets bored, he ditches them and moves on to a new target. I, truth be told, didn't ignore the warning signs. I knew something was wrong, but the fight between emotion and intellect all but tore me to pieces. That delayed things long enough for him to latch onto a new target and ditch me. I should be relieved, but it hurt so much all the same, and even now it still hurts and has left me very angry. It sounds like I knew exactly what I was doing, but frankly I was just LUCKY that he didn't wear me down far enough quickly enough.
Oct 30 - 7AM
ekat
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A big red flag

I ignored a very big red flag when he came to meet my family about 3-4 weeks after I first met him. He was the only one speaking at the lunch table and I could see the uncomfortable look on my family's faces. Even one family member who usually is good at monopolising conversations (but more in a fun way) was reduced to silence by my xN's constant lecturing. My family never did say anything at the time, my Mum feels it's not her place to because she feels like she failed her own marriage when my father went off with a younger woman, but I really should have read their reaction to him, especially that my mother did tell me recently that that was the way they had felt at the time.
Oct 30 - 1AM
Gaia
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Damn

my ex narky boy, manages to seduce men, children, animals, old ,online gamers, young, all his co-workers and a therapist! He deserves a damn metal, ..a metal cage! I WISH some dudes came up to me, and warned me of this psycho. /with REAL love ...SG
Oct 29 - 2PM
Journey
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I do think other guys can see

I do think other guys can see through the shit way easier cause they have no reason to want to believe differently. My exN presented himself to be everything I always wanted and in many ways it was genuine because we did share many same interests and for the rest he just charmed and mirrored until I was completely 'hooked'. There were so many red flags. One was from a friend who knew someone who knew him well and he told her after she mentioned I was seeing him, "well wish her good luck with that, he's the worst egomaniac I've ever met" Of course, I discounted that and ignored the rest, since I thought I'd met my soul mate. I don't consider there was anything wrong with me for falling for him, I was just uneducated in the ways of predators and now that I know better, will choose better.

Journey on...

Oct 29 - 12PM
rosedewittbukater
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how I was hooked

This may make me sound like a narc, (which I am NOT!) but mine studied me... down to my Amazon Wish List...and then pretended to be just like me. She mirrored me perfectly. I'm sure she morphed into a completely different persona for her NS.
Oct 30 - 1AM (Reply to #10)
Gaia
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rosedewittbukater

They are damn chameleons! Matter of fact, he had some chameleons as pets.. , he probably was studying their every move. Eww, he even studied me then, cuz he always acted like he liked everything I did! I could of said that I like eating poop, he would agree he does too. Now that I think about it harder, he did act all different ways, around different company. And his excuse " I wasnt feeling well, so I sounded different" They are so clever in a non-clever way , its unbelieveable! Like one time he didnt call me on my birth day, after 8 years of being with me, you know what his excuse was : His eye hurt. His fu**ing eye hurt???? WTF?
Oct 29 - 2PM (Reply to #8)
NarcJunkie
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Yep...

My Narc was absolutely fascinated when I talked to him for hours and hours about philosophy, he couldn't get enough of it... turns out he actually thinks that's all a load of BS and didn't even listen to what I said (he was probably too busy picturing me naked) He now likes everything the OW likes and does everything she does.
Oct 30 - 7PM (Reply to #9)
Susan32
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Philosophy

"My Narc was fascinated when I talked to him about philosophy"-The ex-Psych prof touted himself as a philosopher. He majored in philosophy. He was a self-anointed expert on Wittgenstein, Tolstoy, Schopenhauer, St. Augustine. Whenever I brought up Wittgenstein, he'd clam up. When I came skipping into the coffee shop, grinning triumphantly because I had the SAME translation of "War and Peace" as him, he looked like he had seen a ghost, there was animal terror in his eyes. He said my freshman year "I will keep you from reading 'War and Peace.'" My senior year-got assigned "Anna Karenina" instead. The ex-P, it turned out, thought that philosophy was BS. Wittgenstein discussed the end of philosophy. The ex-P and I NEVER had philosophical discussions because he'd- 1)Clam up 2)Change the subject His male groupies said that he wouldn't talk to me about philosophy because I was female. I think the ex-P was VERY territorial about philosophy. Think of a Pomeranian that goes into a barking rage when a person is walking across the street. He saw me as competition. I had dreamt of talking about philosophy with him... it NEVER materialized. Interestingly, he D&D'd me (and married) a woman who does the scientific aspect of artifacts restoration. She's basically a scientist, like his father.
Oct 29 - 10AM
ready2receive
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red flags

I can relate to your post more than I want to. You could have poked me in the eye with all of the red flags that should have been going off and I still would have fallen for him. I've said this before but it sticks in my brain - a quote from my sister: "You realize that you are the only person on the planet who even LIKES him?" After our breakup, people started telling me what they've always thought about him and wondered why I was with him in the first place. And all that time I thought I had landed my soulmate. He was an arrogant SOB. Plain and simple. Others knew it IMMEDIATELY. I am too forgiving, too hopeful, too EVERYTHING! They are a drug and it is powerful to be made to feel that sexy, etc. But we need to know that we are that fabulous without having an N (or anyone) reinforce it.
Oct 29 - 2PM (Reply to #6)
NarcJunkie
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Yes, they are our drug

..and we are their drug... not very healthy either way! :( I am a total sucker for flirtatious men, It just gets me hooked right away. Problem is, of course, those men are usually predators.
Oct 29 - 10AM
ruby01 (not verified)
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NarcJunkie

I thought he was a challenge. Now I realize that he is challenged.
Oct 30 - 1AM (Reply to #4)
Hopeful36
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That's awesome!

That's awesome!
Oct 29 - 10PM (Reply to #3)
Daisyd
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Quote on challenged

OMG fucking brilliant!!!!! LMAO!! thank you soooooo much!!
Oct 29 - 10AM (Reply to #2)
Layla
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LOL!

Best short quip post EVER!!!! Love it! love~ Layla