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#1 Oct 21 - 4PM
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Big setback

I had been doing a little bit better for a few days.

About an hour ago I was in the grocery store- waiting in line-just kinda looking over the magazines and I saw a picture of the OW on the cover. Words cannot explain how i felt. There she was- looking beautiful- just amazing--- my replacement.

I nearly cried while standing in line.

I couldn't stop myself from reading the article about her. In it she discussed a tiny bit of her personal life which included HIM and her happiness with her life. Even discussed their daughter.

There were so many pics of her personal life. I feel like I have been thrown back to day one.

Everyone- what am I supposed to do now. Please.

I am so much pain.

He IS obviously happy and so is my replacement. She isn't being abused.

I gotta go- I can't stop crying.

Oct 22 - 8PM
annamarie
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THE OW

Omg!! I just found out my ex N has a new girlfriend. I haven't been on here for a while, but since Monday I found out that he is in a relationship with another woman and seems happy and it has crushed me all over again. I started to cry and am hurt that he treated me like crap and he is treating her O so well. In my mind any way. I'm still cleaning up the wreckage he left behind. Like I was nothing to him and I am nothing because I know the real him and don't co-sign his bull. On the other hand, we have some mutual friends that respect me more then him. However, since we broke up he showed up at a friends Diner were she works and was out to eat with another woman. WTF!!! Is he just screwing with my head since I cut him off?? Couldn't some where else to eat. Hello, respect!!! Then he was told I was dating this guy he was closed to at one point(friend cut him off too- seen thru his act). Any way a week later he shows up at the guys job and has breakfast by himself. And puts this act on by pulling out a ton of cash. Is he serious that people have time for this. And I dont; believe me, but I was doing great. Back to work, my kids, love my new home. I was happier then I have been in a long time and then this bull to get me all twisted up..... Idk, am I crazy or do Narcs just like to mess with you when they have no control or have to make themselves feel better. And he has a new GF. Has much has I'm hurt I feel bad for her because she has no clue what she got herself into unless he looses interest really quick........Its been about 3 months since we split and this is not the same has a normal break up believe me it is totally different. And I'm single recovering from his abuse........I want my life back..... I thought I was there and now I'm hurting all over again.

They never change. He will build you up and then suck you dry!!!!!!

Oct 22 - 9PM (Reply to #29)
Amazed
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I got ya AnnMarie that its not like normal break ups

The messing with your head, I believe it is intentional. The know how to manipulate right? Not just like the ordinary person, who might do something normal like text you or email you, no,,,the f ing Narc has to do something like show up at the resturaunt of a mutual friend where he knows you will get wind of it,,start to worry, panic, freak out,,he knows that. Sad and so weird that someone could be motivated by something so maniacal and evil,isn't it. Thats who they are. Stay away.
Oct 22 - 2PM
Carolyn
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When my X and I divorced he

When my X and I divorced he married right away and I was left in a City where I had few friends. He talked visciously about me, they were together before the divorce, she also spoke badly about me and it almost destroyed my career. I felt just the way you do now. In 6 months she dumped him, the stories she spread caused her to lose her public relations job for a major university, she moved away, he moved away, and I eventually went back to my hometown where I did very well and I am now retired, and living in Central America. If I had any idea what was down the road I never would have shed a tear or wasted my time with negative emotions which can cause a lot of health problems. I know that isn't much help especially after picking up a puff piece in a magazine about them. The smiles you see from that cover are not real. Narcissists do not pick and chose their victims they victimize everyone. I don't know what happened to the second wife but my ex ended up alone, a well educated loser with nothing. You will have what you want to have. She is no more a woman and no more talented than you. You got away from that monster she is still there. Make your life day by day and step by step. You sit down and develop a plan to get something you want, a new job, new friends, join a club, a new church, you go out and find what is out there for you and the h--- with them. I wonder what will happen eventually to both of them. I can guarantee you it won't be good. For you anything and everything is possible. You think they are winners and you are a loser. She has him -you have a future! Narcissists are particularly jealous of their children so that little girl has a big problem be sad for her, don't care about them, and go for it girl!
Oct 22 - 9AM
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EndingTheDance Big whammy

EndingTheDance Big whammy that you're having to see it in a magazine...yuk. But really think about it, there is NO happy ending here. It's just called denial on her part, and I've been there, then one day something happens and you can't deny it, you can't keep it hidden anymore. Anyway, the money from the article will come in handy when she leaves him after she comes out of denial for her therapy bill.
Oct 22 - 9AM
Shelley (not verified)
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Clean Up in Aisle #4

Dear Jessika, Recently, I was in a grocery store in Florida and was in a pretty good mood pushing my cart along aisle #4. I looked up at the shelf of seasonings and burst into tears. I had a flashback of my XN and me cooking together and using those same spices. I had felt such love and joy with him that I never imagined it could ever change! Well, it did change...it turned into a nightmare! And here I was 2 years away from the narcissist, in a Florida grocery store, crying so severely that I could hardly breathe! I turned my face away from the other customers passing by my cart because I was so ashamed and didn't want to make them feel uncomfortable. I thought that any moment now, there would be a voice over the intercom calling for a stockboy to clean up the "mess of me" in aisle #4, like they do when something gets spilled! That thought helped me laugh a little at the situation so I could cope with the upset and finish shopping. Whether it's a seasoning or a spicy magazine cover that gut-wrenches our hearts and takes us to a place of mourning and anger and hopelessness, we must remember who we are. We are wonderful and God knows our deepest needs and has not deserted us. I truly believe that truth and it is what has kept me sane through all these months of recovery.
Oct 21 - 10PM
4joys (not verified)
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Call Your Therapist Yet?

This would be the time to.
Oct 21 - 10PM
NanC (not verified)
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Jessika

Are they both celebrities? Geez, those folks change partners like they change their underwear. Give it a couple of months and check that magazine again...if it was so wonderful, they would have never left each other the first time! Once a Narc always a Narc!
Oct 22 - 9AM (Reply to #23)
Jessika (not verified)
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Thank you everybody

Just thank you all so so so much! Cupcake- we sound really similar! To answer your question NanC- she is a celebrity and he is a very successful businessman. My therapist was nice enough to fit me in for a session, after I told her what I was feeling. I feel a bit better today. It helps to get refocused (through all that you have shared) that they are not happy and that FAKE relationship they had was never going to make me happy. I am so much deeper than that. So toys and cheating and lying was driving me insane for the time that I was with him. I was miserable. A part of me is angry that she is not so in need of love as I am and that she finds happiness with him. But whatever! I just wish i didn't see that. I wish the world wasn't celebrating her beauty! SHE is such a Narc.... actually she is more Histrionic.... I cannot even tell you how much she gets off on attention. She looks down on most everyone and thinks her presence is something special. I want soooooo badly to write the magazine and tell them what an awful woman she is and how she pushes her kids on the nanny 80% of the time, as she is beautiful and fabulous to be bothered with parenting!! There is just NO justice. She was such a major problem during our relationship. I kept telling him that I felt something was going on between the two of them..... however he kept lying. Instead tried to entangle me in the web of lies by trying to get me pregnant. I trusted him..... I believed it was he and I who were starting our little family... turns out he was with her and me!! I just don't get why he would try to make such a disaster of a situation and ruin my life. 2 "baby mama's"... one moral/good girl/ intelligent type and the other immoral/ diva/ attention hound type!! I thank God now that I didn't get pregnant! My life would have been ruined! Still amazes me that he was going to ruin my life ON PURPOSE, as he was the only one with all the information. My head is still whilrling today. Sorry if i sound whacky :-( Jessika
Oct 21 - 7PM
Cgrl
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Jess Honey

Jess honey, listen. Stop beating yourself up. Lieten to me- she is nothing. He is nothing. They are two nothings who only use each other. There is no love. There is no affection. There is a child who is going to grow up exactly like you did. How sad is that? Look at them- what do they really have? Wow she has a porche. Look at what she has to do and how she has to live for that - him being with other women? Is it worth it to YOU? Would you sell your soul, your happiness, your life for that? Dont you want more? Really look at you- Look at the woman that you are. YOU have people who dont even know you who are showing you love and show you love every day. You think they have that? They dont even love themselves let alone love each other. You are making crap up in your head that they are happy - truth be told you would probably be very surprised what really goes on. He hasnt changed. He cant. Its not in him to change. He is pathological. He pacifys her. She is supply. Thats all. I would bet cash money he already is doing something very ugly to her behind her back. Rest, eat - take care of YOU. We know what you are going through but know this - things are NEVER what they seem. Love ya honey.
Oct 21 - 6PM
Amazed
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Jessika Just Realize This

Jessika, realize his smiles are all a lie. He is so good at acting fake. You would never know the emptiness he feels inside. He is living a very sad life. BE GLAD YOU ARE OUTTA THERE!! No need to envy the OW or the original, she means nothing to him, even though he makes it seem like he is giving her a fairy tale life. It is just what he is paying to get his 'supply' and he has no more feelings for her than what it takes for you to put your shoes on. He has no feelings, he has no love. He is a cheating machine, yuck, right!!! I know you are feeling a loss,,how about going TG I am free of his circle of lies!! I have gone through a very similar situation to you, and understand how you feel COMPLETELY. How long has it been since he flipped switches on you so to speak?
Oct 21 - 6PM
Jessika (not verified)
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I guess I need to clarify...

this OW is the woman BEFORE me and they got back together when he D&D me in May. He is the father of her child. They were never married. They broke up for a few years and he dated other women. One of those women was eventually me. Little did I know he dated me briefly while she was pregnant-- I didn't know it at the time, however during our relationship I did the 'math' and was astounded that he cheated on a pregnant woman. Anyway- After working me over for 7 months he convinced me to be with him. I was always suspicious of the two of them- however he always told me I was paranoid and that i needed to trust him. After a year he dumped me saying that I was "too negative and insecure" --- turns out my suspicions were right all along. He was rekindling his relationship with her while trying to get me pregnant... WTF!! Who does that!! Seeing the magazine today confirmed it. They are the little family- back together again. He was always addicted to her. Used to tell me how she was a little fighter and they would go at it intensely and how much he loved that. I used to tell him that i was calm and didn't want that in my home (screaming; throwing stuff). He went back to the one who makes him all whoozy and threw me away. She is the OW.... however also the original woman. I have spoken to my one friend (that i have left) and she was like... "well he is the father of her child... they are rebuilding their family. You were just a girlfriend. SO what??!" Perhaps she is right... but personally that comment pissed me off... so I hung up with her. She is seeing him as a normal guy wanting to put his family together. I am seeing him as a narc who promised a future with me and cheated on me and went back to her bc they have such intensity and constant drama. It hurts so much! Fine... he has moved on. I am still hurting. I was replaced by his ex and she is being idealized by the whole frigging world and it SUCKS. She is a selfish, extremely materialistic, shopaholic, DIVA. I hate them both............. however they are happy and I am sitting in my home alone and crying. I am the good girl... supposedly the normal one- however I am beginning to feel like I no longer want to fight this fight. It is pointless. I don't see that I can win it. Is God/ the Universe against me? Why did I have to see this today. Thank you all for your words............ I still hurt though!! Jess
Oct 22 - 9AM (Reply to #19)
Shelley (not verified)
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Bottom Feeders

Dear Jessika, You say he has "moved on" but really he has "moved backwards." It seems to me that narcissists lack the courage to forge ahead into the territory of truth and decency. They are more prone to return to their own vomit like a dog. When a narcissist has the good fortune to stumble onto the path of a kind and loving person like yourself, the N destroys such an opportunity of true love by their basic instincts of cruel intentions. More than likely, your XN and his OW are feeding off each other's egos. They are true "bottom feeders!" They probably supply one another with a "diet" of hypocrisy and hardness of hearts. It is all an illusion that they obviously enjoy. You know what kind of home and love you want and although you were tricked into believing he was capable of being a good and caring man, you now know the truth. I can feel your heartache and if I could take it away from you I would. I am glad that you were not injured anymore than you have been already.
Oct 21 - 10PM (Reply to #18)
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backup supply

this is called the BACK UP SUPPLY. The old coat that sticks around for more abuse when the N wants to go back. http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com/2007/12/other-woman-now-hes-happy.html THEY ARE NOT HAPPY!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pathologicals only discard the best, most precious of gems of people... not the worst. They despise the strong, principled, decent & honest. Their discarding of you is then their highest commendation of your worth!" - A.V.
Oct 21 - 7PM (Reply to #15)
cupcake (not verified)
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Jess

It's ok to hurt. You have every right to be angry and hurt. I know how you feel,I think of myself alone and crying thinking of him and him out there having fun with her. It isn't fair and it isn't right and I believe in faith and karma. It will come back to him. This day must be so hard for you - can get get into bed and hide? I hate those painful nights, time goes so long. My N is in my head so much sometimes it consumes me and when people say "go and do something to not think about it" it doesn't work because where I go my head comes too! we are here with you and I am sorry you are going through so much pain today. I know you are hurting I know that feeling - for me it is a sick feeling in my stomach. Sometimes my fingers hurt from all the pain inside!! God/The Universe is with you, not against you. I don't know why this injustice is happening to you, sometimes I am shopping and hear a song that reminds me of him and think "God WHY did you let me hear this?" Of all things surely I can be safe doing the groceries! I don't think there is any easy way through this for us, maybe just a day at a time? I don't know if you are religious but I will pray for you anyway. I know it isn't fair, I feel so enraged by the injustice sometimes, at night it is worse. It isn't fair. It is NOT fair.
Oct 21 - 7PM (Reply to #16)
Jessika (not verified)
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Gosh Cupcake

I was wondering if you could somehow SEE me. I actually am in bed now... under the covers with my laptop on the bed next to me.... about to go to sleep (I took 2 Unisoms- I can't stand being awake any longer). I haven't done this sort of thing since May and June. But I can't stand my mind whirling with thoughts of the two of them. They really are a good couple together.... both immoral. Him with his buying his bad behavior and her for accepting money - manipulating his weakness of being bad. She grew up with tons of love from a mother and a father. I grew up with nothing.... no father (I was an accident from an affair he had with my mother)... my mother was a narcissist so my whole life revolved around her. So more than anything I want LOVE from my partner. However his ex (now current) doesn't want love... she is fine. She wants to enjoy the glamourous stress free life of Porches, homes, rolex's, expensive vacations, shopping sprees, and a separate 4000 sq foot home that is set up as their daughter's play room *they live in a large home right next door to THAT house)... just unbelievable!! I am jealous bc i worked my ass off for 10 years to earn my Ph. D and this ass (her) gets such a life. Both of them Where is the justice???? I hate both of them!!!!!!! thanks all again for all the support good night
Oct 21 - 7PM (Reply to #17)
cupcake (not verified)
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Laptop!

Oh my goodness, that was so me last night!! Laptop on bed and I took some valium to calm down, I just wanted to sleep and forget. It was good to know a bit about your upbringing, that is really hard and difficult. Justice will come, don't you worry. It will. I hate both of them too!! Sleep tight, hang in there. Tomorrow is another day!
Oct 21 - 6PM
cupcake (not verified)
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Jess

Beautiful Jessika. You are doing exactly what I did. It is easy to look at a photo and build fantasy around how happy someone is. Everyone smiles in photos, you don't know what is really going on behind the scenes. I looked at FB photos of mine with the girlfriend, saw 2 photos of them smiling and lost it. I pictured all sorts of happiness going on in their lives while I was misreable. But not true. Everyone smiles in photos, even when they are unhappy. I know it makes you sick to have it in your face like that. But this too shall pass. You don't have to tread on eggshells anymore, be constantly belittled and discarded then reeled back and soul destroying cycle repeat. She will be in so much pain very soon. All of us get discarded - she will too. She is probably going through what we all did - the adrenalin of the high and low, the confusion, the toxic hope and it will only get worse for her. You are on a road to recovery and you know so much more than her. I know thinking of the OW hurts. So much. It still hurts me so much too I can't stand the thought of someone else with him. But with a N - that is always the case. He is probably already cheating on her with someone else there is always someone else with a N. he doesn't love her, he can't. She isn'y happy Jess and she is only going to get worse. Her discardment is coming if not already happening. This shall pass - hang in there. Love Cupcake
Oct 21 - 6PM (Reply to #8)
Jessika (not verified)
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He has DandD her before Cupcake...

it's like this chick is immune or something. I even sent her an email telling her that I existed and she didn't care. She only cares about his money and since he is a multimillionaire she gets all of her expensive toys from him (last one i heard was a new Porche--- he never bought me anything like that--- that was probably for 'letting him' screw around with me. Anyway... she bargins with him (according to him). He gets to behave badly, however he has to pay (literally PAY money) and she will keep him. He is allowed cheats! I told him that I will not allow that kind of disrespect... NEVER. I got the boot!
Oct 22 - 4PM (Reply to #11)
better off
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Wow...so she's

Wow...so she's a...prostitute.
Oct 22 - 4PM (Reply to #12)
better off
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Jessika, you also need to

Jessika, you also need to think a little about this magazine stuff. I mean, COME ON!! Who used to be the Perfect Couple? Brad and Jen...Tom and Nicole...JLo and Whomever etc.etc.etc.etc. It's all a farce. Liz Taylor married the love of her life 7? times..For God's sake, Jon and Kate had their OWN SHOW and it was all a farce. Narcs will do ANYTHING for publicity, like tell a magazine how happy they are. What a bad joke. Yes, I'm sure your N was pleased as punch to be mentioned in a magazine, but that has nothing to do with reality. HE has nothing to do with reality. Neither do magazines.
Oct 22 - 7PM (Reply to #13)
Jessika (not verified)
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I'm trying 'betteroff'

trying to hold on to my morals and what is important to me and that I am deep and both are immensely shallow. But for some reason this throws me for a loop bc I am not happy in my life. I am still struggling daily with my recovery bc of the two of them and here she is on the cover of this mag.... getting the worship from the world she feels she is totally entitled to. I feel broken... bc I am not happy. Given that they have shallow emotions, life is this fun party for them. I would be fine if I were in a happier place in my life. But I am lonely, fearful of my future...just kinda broken. He is an awful person.. so this magazine stuff is likely fake! Cross my fingers
Oct 21 - 6PM (Reply to #10)
cupcake (not verified)
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Jess!

That's good! I think that is brave to tell him you would not allow that kind of disrespect. Something I have always wanted to tell my N but never had the courage, I was too under his thumb. I sent my N's girlfriend an e-mail telling her about me too but she didn't believe me and had me blocked, now they are both calling me a pyscho. This girl you are speaking of sounds as empty and shallow as him. He is allowed to cheat? Is she just as inhuman and incapable of love as he is? She sounds very hollow and very superficial - she just wants the money and doesn't care. I hope he keeps D&D'ing her (which he will) this sounds like a sick empty thing they have, it will never last. Neither of them know anything of love, respect, commitment, serving one another and fulfilling one another. They can't be happy with anyone, neither of them. I bet he is sitting in bed sometimes wishing he had his Jessie back. I'm glad you got the boot because you stood up for yourself. I wish I could have done that too!
Oct 21 - 6PM (Reply to #9)
itreallyisabouthim
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That is NOT happiness!

That is NOT happiness!
Oct 21 - 6PM
quietude (not verified)
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jessika

Okay, I gotta say I'm so sorry you had to see that, it must have been very hard for it to be right in front of you there. That sucks. That being said, when I was with my ex, I put on a happy face too for public purposes. You're thinking the ex is going to be different with another person and magically change into a good guy...IMPOSSIBLE! They are not capable of changing. Sooo, the only options here are, she's hiding her pain, she's going through a temporary happy phase because he tossed her some crumbs, or she's in total denial. Think about it, what is she going to say in an article (for image purposes) when they ask about her personal life? "OMG, MY BOYFRIEND IS AN A-HOLE!!" Doubtful. She can't avoid the question if they asked her, this may cause problems with the N. So, if she says she's sooo happy, this is good for her image and keeps her out of trouble with the N. He's obviously going to see the article. There's more going on here that meets the eye, and it's not the pretty picture portrayed.
Oct 21 - 5PM
cynthia (not verified)
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Jessika

that is the way I was two days ago, crying so damn hard I couldnt catch my breath. I read somewhere some of them have to have the most stunning, head turning partners to make them look good, dont put too much stock in that. I saw a pic too of the OW, she was cute. Because someone is beautiful Jessika does not make them immune to abuse, some of the most beautiful women I know are horribly abused by their partners and if he is a true Narcissist you can bet he wont stop abusing just because he has a beautiful woman, stop and think all the beautiful people in Hollywood, gorgeous women who are miserable, did their beauty stop their husbands from cheating? Dont let this set you back too much, when I posted a few days ago I was upset feeling so inadequate in every way with the OW, it doesnt matter Jessika what she looks like, I was prettier that his OW and did he run off with me? Did he treat me any better? Did I become the love of his life? HELL NO, bottom line is he was not healthy for you and all her looks wont change that for her either.
Oct 21 - 5PM
Scoop
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I had a day where my ex narc

I had a day where my ex narc was in the papers where ever i went , it was a bad day .When i think back on that day i was in such a horrible place , it was almost like the Gods where laughing at me .I cryed like i had never cryed before , i didnt think it would ever stop and the noise i was making was a sound i had never made before . Just to let you know it does get better .On that day i thought it was all over , game over but you do climb out of it im heading to 5 months NC . It was the hardest thing i had ever had to do and hope its the hardest thing i will ever have to do . Hold on . It gets better . Peru x
Oct 21 - 4PM
itreallyisabouthim
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Hi I'm new here and don't

Hi I'm new here and don't know your story yet but that last statement grabbed me. You CANNOT judge what is really going on in his or her life by a magazine article. I think I can make a few assumptions because you are here: Think for a moment how your life would have looked like with him if you had done a magazine spread on it. And think about the reality of what really happened behind closed doors! (HUG)
Oct 21 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
time_to_move_on
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agreed...

I'd go out socially with my ex, did a pub quiz one night, and another time on a train after a night out. Both times, we couldn't stop touching each other being affectionate, and it was obvious that other people thought we were really into each other etc (people would make comments). In fact, one of those times he'd ranted at me in a hotel room the night before and threatened to leave me, and another time he'd been headbutting my kitchen table and scaring me senseless the day before. But you would not have thought it looking at how "happy" we seemed.
Oct 21 - 9PM (Reply to #3)
destiny (not verified)
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Exactly

BIg HUGE HUGS Jessika- Time to move on is sooo right. Soooo, many times onlookers must have thought the Narc and i were so in love. Once at a sporting event the usher told us to get a room(he was joking) but Narc was very affectionate...an hour before we had a mini fight and were on the verge daily of ending it. While out we always looked like the happy couple. He would dance with me in stores...every pic had a smile on our faces...not one didnt. What people didnt see was me on edge and worried who was calling him...if I should offer an invite for the holiday...etc. This is also the reason most of the time I thought things were OK with us..and fights had been forgotten...not with Narc. Just because it was written in a magazine doesnt mean that she is happy...in fact the mere fact that she gets presents everytime he cheats etc...just shows there is NO love there in that relationship. Love cannot be bought...and neither can trust. My guess is as part of the deal she pretends to be happy and that is why that was mentioned in the magazine. Remember Narcs never change. Jessika...you do NOT want that you really dont. I know it hurts. “It's not hard to find the truth. What is hard is not to run away from it once you have found it.”