Types of D&D

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#1 Sep 3 - 10PM
Sea
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Types of D&D

My exN never use nasty word to desc me never hit me. He uses passive agressive methods and his fav is ST just poof disappear on me n waiting for me to go nuts and apologising for things that are not my fault just to make peace. The only time he hurt me physically was he grab my arms so tight to kiss me while i refused to do so in public. I show him the bruises the nxt day and he said this is what it takes to kiss me. My fault cos it doesnt have to be like tht if i didnt resist.

I rather he has hit me or call me something really nasty that i can be really angry abt and move on. I have serious CD in the past 30 days NC because his D&D is so passive that it got me so confused! I even ask myself could i be asking for it and think that he hasnt really abuse me.

How is your D&D like? How u tell yourself this is abuse?

Sep 4 - 3PM
juliamarie
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My D&D was similar

It was all manipulations and projections with my N. He had me apologizing for everything...and also liked to pull the disappearing act. He kicked me out of his house multiple times when he decided he didn't like what i had to say. I was so confused and frustrated. He told me I was a negative person...that I had anger issues and needed to get on an antidepressant. He told me his drinking problem was due to the way I treated him. I could go on and on. He never physically assaulted me either....what he did was much worse. He made me question my own sanity and my own ability to discern the truth. It has taken me almost 2 full months just to process how messed up I was in this relationship. The longer I am away from it, the more I see things for what they truly are. But, the damage to my self esteem will probably take a lot longer to repair. This guy really did a number on my head.
Sep 4 - 1PM
FarmGirl
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N's elderly mother came to

N's elderly mother came to live with us & was very ill from stage IV Lymphoma. I was her primary caregiver (even though we're not married & he treats me like a maid most of the time)... She was very sweet and I am glad I took care of her but there were so many issues with the N during that time. He denied her pain meds so she wouldn't get "loopy". Hospice nearly brought in Adult Protective Services to take her away due to that. I gave her tiny doses of morphine under RN instruction & he accused me more than once of trying to kill her. I loved this woman so much and him saying that was so hurtful. It still hurts and it's been 3 months. (So while I put my life on hold for months, spent all my money on stuff for her, essentially ignored my then 3yo's needs because I was overworked and overtired - he ran off to work for 12+ hrs a day (he has 8 hr shifts...) and came home to "help" by feeding his mom soup...and then accused me of trying to kill her...yay)
Sep 4 - 12PM
Jelickuk
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Mine constantly shamed me.

Mine constantly shamed me. Told me I was always negative and spoke in riddles. Said I could never just say what I meant. If we were out he would tell me to keep my voice down. I was a drama queen, mad, never happy. He said he was only horrible to me in response to my negativity. Then why do I miss him today
Sep 4 - 1PM (Reply to #18)
Anabelle
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Jelickuk

Mine told me the same things. But only when I didn't buy his bullshit anymore and I didn't follow his commands like a brainless robot, so i started to figure him. I guess that's one of the very last stages when they truly try to get on top of you and when it doesn't work anymore find a fast way out. When he dumped me he told me what a horrible negative person I am and how horrible our relationship was for him...a joke. Hugs from an other Drama Queen :)
Sep 4 - 11AM
ruby01 (not verified)
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Its always

only about them. When someone showed interest in me, he would say they were only doing it because I was with him. They are truly ridiculous!
Sep 4 - 11AM
prettypeeved
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I got several approaches. 1.

I got several approaches. 1. Slow and subtle devaluing - This was where something he apparently once thought was good about me became something disappointing. Slowly I would get less and less subtle remarks belittling the subject in question. 2. Mind games - It would reach the point where every sentence had to be very carefully dissected to make sure he couldn't twist it round to mean something else entirely. In this way I was never really sure what was going on, which made me doubt my own ability to understand the world around me. 3. Superiority - Every so often I would be "put in my place" and made to feel that he was superior to me in every way. Bit by bit this eroded my self-confidence. It wasn't until after he had gone off with the OM that I began to wake up to that. 4. Withdrawal - There was either a lame explanation each time, or none, but every so often he would decide we were too close and would push me away, leaving me reeling and apologising for mistakes I was only guessing at.
Sep 4 - 1PM (Reply to #15)
Anabelle
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textbook

This post could be mine as well and couldn't be more accurate. Thank you so much
Sep 4 - 12PM
sumiko
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My N/P is the Passive

My N/P is the Passive Aggressive kind. He never called me names neither said I was unattractive or stupid. He would make "specific comments" that I think he knew would leave me "wondering". I always felt like a "void" inside of me after these "small comments". Everything was a fairytale until I told him I felt uncomfortable about something in our relationship. This is when his aggressive side would show up and everything was my fault. I think this was a major injury to his ego. After the one big problem that ended our relationship, he used the Silent Treatment for 3 weeks.
Sep 4 - 5AM
into the light
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I can relate to this,Sea.

I can relate to this,Sea. Nothing overtly abusive that I could pick up on at the time but I now see it was all passive aggressive. Sweet when he spoke to me or texted but mine would never firm up plans to see me until the last minute and then he was always late. Busiest person on the planet, so his excuse was work stopped him from keeping in touch during the week - he worked away a lot. Like someone else said a while ago on here - if you're good enough to sleep with, why can't they take a minute to text or call? Hated if I disagreed on anything - always said I was interrupting him when it was the other way round. I just decided at times to let him rant on about whatever, but that meant that I was changing bit by bit the way I would normally behave. The worst was the sexual manipulation /withdrawal. For instance, being hypersexual in inappropriate places - car, cinema, and telling me everything he was wanted to do to me later. Then we would get back to my place and he'd put the TV on and show zero interest in me. WTF? Or would never respond if I tried to initiate - he felt ill, tired, bloated. Control, control, control. Everything had to be on his terms.
Sep 4 - 3AM
uk lady
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My ex-P

Used to accuse me of being confrontational. You obviously question yourself first and then question other people about the situation to glee their take on it. Turned out that I wasn't being confrontational - just had a different opinion to him or seeking clarification on what he was saying (read, lying about). The ex-P had been rumbled. If I ever challenged him and got angry because, as we all know, they try to twist it back at us. He would say, "this is what I don't like about you, I can't deal with you when you are angry and I can't do arguments or confrontation". WTF, he had created the upset with his inconsideration. My response, "then don't keep throwing in last minute hitches into long organised plans, lying, cheating, disrespecting me, demeaning me dressed up as joking and always putting me at the bottom of your priority list" without consideration for how it would hurt me. I always ended up feeling exhausted, depressed, angrier and worthless and it was a constant battle to bring myself out of it to function. Towards the end I did feel that I had anger issues and felt awful about it but now he is not in my life they have dissipated. I now realise that he never saw justified anger as an emotion because he was constantly trying to control his because otherwise he would have totally lost it and gone berserk. He was like a pressure cooker and totally vengeful. I was often surprised by what he would plan do to whose who had offended him. I invariably was the one who was relied on to pick up the pieces of whatever drama/trauma he had created. He was never at fault because he always remained calm and I was supposed to forgive/forget and just move on from whatever had occurred without a backwards glance. I used to try to explain that's is all very easy if you are not the one who has been hurt and who all this stuff had not been directed at. All passive-agressive abuse in my mind. Deex
Sep 4 - 4AM (Reply to #9)
Anabelle
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Thank you so much Dee for

Thank you so much Dee for these lines... You talked out of my heart.... hug
Sep 4 - 4AM (Reply to #10)
uk lady
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You are very welcome Anabelle

If some of what I write helps others to understand the craziness then that helps me too. Coming out of the fog really begins to put things into prospective and enables us to go forward with the healing ultimately to stay away from these types in the future. I am working hard on personal boundaries. First boundary - stay away from the sob stories that the Ps initially catch you with. More in the making. Dee x
Sep 4 - 1PM (Reply to #11)
Anabelle
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lucky

It really does. I am reading a book about personality disorders and abnormal psychology. I think more you learn, more you understand the background, the possible routes of their thinking and also their family dynamics. AND yourself. How do you fit into this craziness. It's really hard to face these things but also extremely eye opening and helpful. Go on girls. All make sense at the end and the only feeling what you will feel is pitiful indifference. x
Sep 4 - 2AM
Sea
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My exN was in v gd shape ( he

My exN was in v gd shape ( he spend alot time in gym n upkeep his looks n not to mention his choice of fashion) n he thinks he is a zillion times better than me so never jealous when others pay attention to me. He said they paid attention to both of us. His arrogance is futher fuel by all his many female fans. The only time he is jealous is when another good looking n accomplished man date me. He would promptly give me the ST. He always remind me there are many woman dying to take my place as his woman. I should take it as a priviledge to be with him! To be seen around town with him n be glad tht he wine n dines me n buy me expensive gifts. I have to be thankful! I foolishly agree so!! Think of it now i felt stopid and ashame that i have no seld esteem :(
Sep 4 - 2AM
Sea
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He did criticise about my

He did criticise about my choice of sports being boring. He was obsessed abt weight i was a size 6 ( yes skin n bones) when he knew me n i fluctuate between size 6-10. He will comment tht i put on weight etc. I became obssessed with weight as well the more i am obssessed my weight seems to go up!! I think due to stress etc. 30 days NC n i went back to my usual sports n lost weight went to size 8. I look more radiant n sunny. Sports gave me enough happy hormones to prevent a major depression. I know all these are manipulation to destroy my self esteem n cut me off from things tht i enjoy. I think this is part of his devaluation on me also. But so passive n subtle till i am almost completely destroyed.
Sep 4 - 2AM (Reply to #5)
aceonelady
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Mine did this too...criticize

About my appeareance because i always took care of myself...i am a full figured,(people say good looking) 50+ that looks like 42...he couldn't stand when people on shops or so gave me compliments...he was jealous of the attention i got,so he just withdraw sex,went silent on me...told me i was fat anugly and that having sex with me was gross...And that coming from someone that is 44 years old,looks like 50+ and is also overweight...is just punishment for the compliments i got in his presence...they are fucked up.He knew that his withdraw would make me have a reaction specially his insults...so i thre a slipper on a stach DVDS while he was sitting on the PC watching a video of a woman almost botto naked shaking her ass and he made a comment that someone with that ass would do it for him...just 2 days of silent treatment on me...so i threw the slippers and closed the bathroom door in a very loud manner and that is the reason he gave to not wanting to be around me anymore...my agressive nature...go figure.He is 6'4 and 250 pounds ....

Aceonelady

Sep 4 - 6AM (Reply to #6)
lillymarch
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Your words...

"they are fucked up." I think this is the most honest and straight forward line I've read all night. The insight is priceless!! I agree wholeheartedly! Thank you for putting a emails on my face at 3:40 in the morning. :0)
Sep 4 - 2AM
Sea
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He did criticise about my

He did criticise about my choice of sports being boring. He was obsessed abt weight i was a size 6 ( yes skin n bones) when he knew me n i fluctuate between size 6-10. He will comment tht i put on weight etc. I became obssessed with weight as well the more i am obssessed my weight seems to go up!! I think due to stress etc. 30 days NC n i went back to my usual sports n lost weight went to size 8. I look more radiant n sunny. Sports gave me enough happy hormones to prevent a major depression. I know all these are manipulation to destroy my self esteem n cut me off from things tht i enjoy. I think this is part of his devaluation on me also. But so passive n subtle till i am almost completely destroyed.
Sep 4 - 12AM
ValiditySeeker
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Same here

He never called me names or hurt me physically but he did tell me I had certain personality traits (always negative ones) that were absolutely not true. For example, he said it bothered him that I never read books. Wtf?! I read more books than anyone I know. Book $ is part of my monthly budget. He's the one who rarely read. He told me he was worried I might have been a closet slut in high school but he had no way of knowing since he didn't know me then. Wtf? He was the one who bagged a complete stranger in the bathroom at a party. No condom. How gross! And then there were all those passive aggressive insults! Ugh. He never owned up to a single one. I was telling my counselor about it and she described it as abusive and I thought she was out of her mind. Criticizing people didn't fall under the heading of abuse in my mind. I went as far as to defend him, telling her that there was a misunderstanding: he didn't hit me or call me names. There was no abuse. It took her several sessions to get it through my thick head that his behaviors were abusive. Until then, I had no idea. I wish I had known then what I know now. I could've walked away sooner and saved myself some pain and humiliation.
Sep 3 - 11PM
Journey
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My exN used passive

My exN used passive aggressive abuse too. I did not realize it was 'abuse' until many months after the relationship ended. It took a very long time for my cog dis to leave because we were still in contact as 'friends'. It wasn't until I found this site that I could believe it. Even though my best girlfriend always told me she thought what my ex did was being abusive, for me to really see it as such took learning about the subtle tactics of narc manipulation in order to understand the full implication of what I'd been experiencing. It's a mind fu*k for sure!

Journey on...