Got Asked on a Date

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#1 Jun 17 - 7AM
Lobo555
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Got Asked on a Date

Met a guy last Friday who recognized me at a pub. I am locally famous -- wow does that sound narc-y! :) Talked with him and his friends for a while, and he seemed fun and nice.

But I already have alarm bells ringing. I don't like to go out with people who know me from what I do because I've tried it and it's ended up horrid. They get grabby when I try to say goodbye -- not even just a not-asked-for-kiss, but *grabby* too. Ick. Or they try to analyze me, saying how "sexual" I am. One said, apropos of nothing, "I bet you're a real animal in bed. I can tell!" Weird stuff! I write a column about living in this area that they view as "Sex and the City." It's more like "Celebate in the Boonies." So, I'm already wary because this guy knows who I am. My hackles are up, up, UP! :)

In addition, he was going on about his "toys" -- boat, motorcycle. Said he was in sales. Talked all about managing me so I could get syndicated. Was charismatic and funny.

I feel so damaged from CharlieSheenWinning -- I just don't want to go down Narc Street again.

I could tell the guy I'm not interested in dating BUT I don't want word getting out that I don't want to date because I'd like CharlieSheenWinning to think I'm moving on as much as he is. Yes, it's wrong, but I care about that. :/

Should I keep the door open and meet this dude for a drink? I really feel it's too soon, but what if I miss someone good because I'm afraid?

Jul 2 - 2PM
girlsinger
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Hi LOBO

Hi there "makes me want to break out in a cold sweat" the body NEVER lies you know, I have no idea where we got the message that we have to "explain ourselves" especially to someone we dont even know... I have Unlearned that now, Thank GOD what I did learn was that NO. is a complete sentance..period good for you be blessed K
Jul 2 - 7AM
Lobo555
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Here's an update: I never

Here's an update: I never went on the date. :) Everything inside me was screaming not to go, so this time I listened. Maybe it's just too soon. I've been away from CharlieSheenWinning for 3 1/2 months now but am so not ready to date anyone. The guy emailed me to set up a day and place to meet, and I never emailed him back. I feel guilty because that's rude to not respond. But he wanted me to call him, not email him, and I just couldn't even handle a simple phone call. I still can't handle it. The thought of talking to this guy on the phone and getting some sort of dating ball rolling makes me break out into a cold sweat. I keep thinking I should call and explain myself, but I don't have it in me to do it. :/
Jul 2 - 8AM (Reply to #25)
onwithmylife
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Lobo

Probably best to let it go at this junction. I am over 2 years out and only finally wanting to date the last 6 months, it takes a longtime and to do so any sooner than you are ready is not fair to you or the guy! I was 15 years with the Narc and that is quite a while to get all the poison out of your system.
Jul 2 - 8AM (Reply to #24)
SoaperGirl
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I've been away from CharlieSheenWinning for 3 1/2 months

3 1/2 is still early to be comptemplating dating again. You're still too emotionally raw. Heck, at 4 1/2, I think it's likely too soon for me as well, but I am getting close, because there is a sense of growing sureness inside me. Maybe around six months? Be good to yourself. It's still early, and there's no rush. When it's time, I think you'll know it.
Jun 19 - 6AM
Monica
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"I knew he was bad but still kept up hope...."

Oh, does this sound familiar. Same with mine. "I knew he was bad but still kept up hope that he would love me and actually think of me as a girlfriend." I actually believed (he LED me to believe) that I would be the one to "change" him, help him to see life in a different way, find true love, live "the simple life." Yeah...Mr. Materialistic himself actually thought he could learn to live "the simple life" with me. It all goes back to what we all say and believe on this board...TRUST YOUR GUT INSTINCT. We knew they were bad BUT.... No "buts" anymore. If there is a "but" it means run the other way and FAST before they get a hold of us and squeeze the very life out of us. We can't fix them. We are the most caring, compassionate, fair, giving people on the planet and many of us are very spiritual, too. But the sad fact is that WE CANNOT FIX THEM. No one can. Nothing can. They are bad now and will be bad forever.
Jun 19 - 7AM (Reply to #21)
onwithmylife
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Monica

BRAVO, well said!!!
Jun 19 - 8AM (Reply to #22)
Lobo555
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Yes, very well said

Radar up, up, UP!!! I won't make the same mistake again.
Jun 18 - 3PM
Lobo555
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So. . . .

I'm such a don't-ever-want-to-wonder-what-if person, I did agree to go for a drink. BUT, I'm taking my own car. I'm keeping my radar UP. And I'm leaving immediately if anything seems hinkey. (Is that how one spells "hinkey"???) Anyway, I don't want to miss a good friendship because of fear. I don't want CharlieSheenWinning to have completely made me lose all my hope. So, I'll go but will proceed with *extreme* caution. I want to see how my radar is holding up.
Jun 17 - 9PM
Steph
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If you already have "alarm

If you already have "alarm bells" going off.....trust it! If there is ONE thing that all of us here needs to learn is that WE MUST TRUST OUR GUT AND HONOUR IT! From what you write about him.....I think he seems rather questionable...... ...your gut is either telling you that "he" is bad.....OR telling you that it is "too soon" for you......either way, it's telling you SOMETHING. ( my personal opinion is that he sounds narcish, AND it is far too soon for you to date ) But that is just my opinion.....you must Trust YOURSELF! Good luck and keep us posted:) xoxo, Steph
Jun 17 - 9PM
Steph
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duplicate post

duplicate post
Jun 17 - 8PM
girlsinger
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Hi lobo 555

Hi There Sounds to me like if your going to go..please...best to proceed with caution, extreme caution common sense, going with your gut..good advice personally, I was cool with it until the "toy's" part but even that is ok, I suppose.. personally,it would turn me right off(thats just me) but you were there, I wasnt and hey men brag,..whatever but what was a RED FLAG for me was "MANAGING ME, so I can get syndicated"...! umm that's alot in one meeting that wasnt even a first date people that can syndicate you dont EVER advertise such a thing EVER real movers and shakers are very much "under the radar" especially when they go out for fun but, sweetie you will never know unless you inquire I would as I said, proceed with EXTREME CAUTION you know after the N wound...its like wearing glasses that are the wrong perscription for a while toys, boats,syndication...geeze, I just dont know be blessed K
Jun 17 - 10AM
fooled no longer
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NO NO NO us women must learn

NO NO NO us women must learn to trust the gut feelings, you know if hes shady, dont feel pressured that others will feel youre to picky. he sounds like a douche and he probably is,
Jun 17 - 9AM
Hunter
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Lobo

Follow your gut! Bragging about material things is a big yuck for me! Dating is fine, but dating anyone for the sake of dating? Fuck what others think, it's all about you baby !! Hunter
Jun 17 - 9AM (Reply to #7)
Lobo555
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I Hate the Term "Toys"

Sounds like an overgrown child term. :/ NOT good. He said something about money, too, or salary or something. I don't remember exactly because my brain shuts down at that kind of talk. Red flags or paranoia? This is my age-old dilemma. But the gut is never wrong. And if I really felt good about it, would I have even asked if I should go? I think I just would have gone. I keep going back and forth on it.
Jun 17 - 9AM (Reply to #8)
Hunter
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Should I send my dog your

Should I send my dog your way! He's handsome, cuddly, a good listener, and most of all loves unconditionally ! He could be more enjoyable! Hunter
Jun 17 - 9AM (Reply to #9)
Lobo555
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Ha!!!!

Sure, why not? Does he have toys?
Jun 17 - 9AM (Reply to #10)
Hunter
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No toys, he likes to fine

No toys, he likes to fine dine and enjoys a belly rubafter dinner! In the am he even beings me the paper :) What aI guy! in fact I'm Keeping him for myself! Call me an Indian giver :) Hunter
Jun 17 - 10AM (Reply to #11)
Lobo555
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Fine!

I'll just hang with my narcissistic cat. And he *is* one, too. First he snuggles, then he bites. It's all about him! :):):)
Jun 17 - 10AM (Reply to #13)
fooled no longer
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this made me laugh. My cat

this made me laugh. My cat got a lot further with the Narc than I ever did. Although even he couldnt wait to get rid of him. fucking POS
Jun 17 - 11AM (Reply to #14)
Lobo555
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My Cat BIT CharlieSheenWinning!

He bites me for play sometimes -- he's young and rambunctious. But he never liked CharlieSheenWinning and bit him on the foot once when he was getting into bed with me. CharlieSheenWinning suddenly screeched, "OUCH!" I said, "What?" He said, "Little fucker just bit my foot!" Wow did I ever start laughing and couldn't stop! Shoulda listened to my damn cat!!!!
Jun 17 - 10AM (Reply to #12)
Susan32
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Cats- best rebound relationship! Ever!

After the final D&D, I dated this sanctimonious, middle-aged devout Catholic man... who turned out to have a restraining order on him. In some ways, he was the ex-Psych prof's polar opposite-he went to church, claimed belief in God, was devoted to the Virgin Mary, prayed the rosary, believed in saving sex for marriage. It ended (I don't regret it) It was my roommate's cat who was the BEST rebound, however. True, the cat would pull the vanishing act, be aloof, wasn't capable of adult/mature conversation... but I was FINE with it. Sometimes cuddling, sometimes scratching... thank goodness there were ZERO mindgames!
Jun 17 - 8AM
Sparrow
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You answered your own

You answered your own question............you think it is too soon, than it is. In time, when you don't say those words, you will be ready. Also.......not to be prejudice, but I personally would stay away from anyone who makes a living in SALES. They are the best at manipulation, control, bull shit, getting what they want, need............just saying.
Jun 17 - 9AM (Reply to #5)
Lobo555
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Too Soon

It's totally too soon to date. But you can never have too many friends. Maybe he'll turn out to be a really good friend. The sales thing is a worry, though. :)
Jun 17 - 7AM
spinning
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Lobo, how interesting

the corelations! I too am 'locally famous' with regard to writing... I know what you mean. I feel exposed and generally like to keep my personal life VERY private. No one knew I was seeing the disordered one (small town stuff), which as it turns out is a huge blessing. Also, I met a person in an off-chance sort of way and when he called and asked to meet I was a nervous wreck. I actually felt compelled to 'talk to' the disordered one (isn't that nuts? That's conditioning, I realize, because I used to tell him everything that was going on in my life). In any event, I agreed to meet the new guy and when I hung up the phone I started actually crying! I felt like such damaged goods... ...Here's what happened, though. We met for cocktails. He was FINE, FINE, FINE. Funny. Nice, a gentleman. We ended up having dinner and the date lasted about three hours. I actually had FUN! I had a great time despite my nervousness. He walked me to my car and my body language was such that he actually asked for a hug...he said 'oh, are you shy?' because I was so scared. We hugged briefly and that was it. I cried on the way home because again I felt so damaged and I also thought this new guy would NEVER like someone like me and would reject me... ...Well, I let it go. As it turns out, he did like me and didn't reject me and we get together a couple of times a week and it's GREAT. Lobo, I was with the disordered one six years and only at 5 months NC when this opportunity presented itself. I knew it was way too early to get involved, but also at my age did not want to miss an opportunity and I am glad I took the risk. Early on, I sabotaged a little because my narc radar was so up like yours...but hot guy has demonstrated to me through his ACTIONS that he is NOT A JERK OR EVEN REMOTELY A NARC. Now I know you have some concerns but here's what I say. It's one date for a couple of drinks. You are in control of the situation. If it gets stupid or uncomfortable, leave. Maybe you can just approach it with an open mind and if it isn't that great you've only invested a couple of hours and you never have to see him again. If it is great at least you'll have a new friend to maybe have some fun with and divert the attention off of twisted CharlieSheenNotReallyWinning so he'll be in the dust where he belongs! I apologize for making this so long. It's just that I know the agonizing decision you are facing. I'm just saying I'm glad I went for it. It has turned out to be a good thing in my life...one of many since I've committed to getting the sick MF'er out of my head. I hope this helps a little. Big hugs from (TOTALLY NOT) spinning. NEVER AGAIN!

spinning

Jun 17 - 8AM (Reply to #2)
Lobo555
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:) !!!!

Another writer! :) I find the locally famous thing so odd. I even stopped writing for a while because it became too much. Unlike a narc, I'm not into that whole scene. I just like to write. Hardly anyone knows I was seeing CharlieSheenWinning, either. He has a bad rep as a lothario, so people would warn me about him and I would pretend that I'd listened. I knew he was bad but still kept up hope that he would love me and actually think of me as a girlfriend. >.< You have a good point. It's just a drink. And if he starts to act weird I'll just leave. And maybe it will be a great thing! I need to watch his actions. And have BOUNDARIES. I think I subliminally scream that I need affection and will sell my soul for love. That's why men react the way they do. They always say they can sense this kind of thing about me. I must seem so anti-men from what I write on this board. I'm not. I'm just afraid of them all right now! Hugs back to you! Thank you for responding!!!!
Jun 17 - 8PM (Reply to #3)
Tinker
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look at it as an opportunity

look at it as an opportunity to use the skills you've learned. it feels really good to walk away from someone who deserves it, and it's so much easier when you're not emotionally involved. use that drink to test who you are to get to know him more, and to practice being with other guys. i don't think it's good to isolate too much after the N. sometimes it feels like they're all N's, or they're all TOO normal, too nice, but all in all, it gets your focus away from the prime N! good luck!!