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#1 Aug 18 - 4PM
juliamarie
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More insanity

So I was doing really well until N emailed my parents that he was bringing my stuff back. Thankfully, he dropped my things off at their house so I didn't have to deal with it, but he has resurfaced.

I'm housesitting for my parents while they are out of town, and got on my mom's computer to check my email. Her email was out, and low and behold....guess who she's been corresponding with...yep...the assclown.

I was SO mad. Then I realized that he had sent an email through her to give to me. Let me just say that it's the craziest mess I've ever read. I'll give you some quotes:

"Let me begin by saying I am copying your mom on this email since you have blocked me. I also need to tell you that I'm drunk (again) which I am sure will not be a surprise to you since I am an alcoholic, as you have reminded me on multiple occassions."

"I understand your disgust of me (which I never said). I hate me too. You are standing in a long line of people who have a mutual disgust for me. I look in the mirror each morning and hate the sight of me. If I could torture myself with shock treatment or bamboo shoots under my fingernails (without the accompanying pain), I would do so with vigor. Believe me, I live in a torture chamber every day...my own skin. I don't know if you will take solace in that realization, but I thought it might be comforting news"

"I am happy you have moved on with your life. You deserve better than me. However, let me make clear, I never asked you to be perfect. I am the most flawed person I know. I just asked you to accept me for my many inadequacies. I except the fact that I am the embodiment of everything you ever called me: narcisstic, selfish, average, lazy cruel, trust baby, cold, alcoholic, etc. Must I go on? You reminded me on so many levels on so many occassions of my faults, and i learned them by heart"

"I want to make it clear that I never lived life more fully than I was with you. It was not the obvious moments i will remember, but the little things. In our short time together, you made me feel human again. However, as the old saying goes, all good things must end. Now I must return to the reality that is the bed i must sleep. I am a basketcase when it comes to being in a relationship"

Let me conclude by giving you an unvarnished option of you. You can be a complete BITCH. You can be cruel. You can be insensitive. You can be moody. You can be narcissistic...yes, I said it! You can be intolerable at times. You can be a miserable travel partner. You can be ungrateful. However, you can be charming, you are incredibly funny, wonderfully thoughtful. You are the most intelligent woman I've ever dated. You are the most driven person I know. You are the greatest lover I have ever known (keep in mind...copied my MOTHER on this). I can go on, but I'm starting to pass out.

Take good care of yourself...I hope you can be my best friend again."

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.....it gives me a headache trying to make sense of this idiot!

Aug 19 - 12PM
juliamarie
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The latest

I tried to get into my frequent flier account this morning, and I was told that it was shut down because of too many attempts with the wrong password. I guess he's now trying to figure out where I'm traveling? I just had to go change every password for every account I have...what a pain in the butt. I have a feeling that he's going to play this thing out in the nastiest way possible. I'm just SO glad that I'm getting to see verification of his true colors. I will never be tempted to go back to this insanity.
Aug 19 - 11AM
LostandFound
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OMG

WOW - I think we dated the same N - I got a very similar email but substitute "prescription drug addict and shopaholic" instead of "alcoholic". OY VEY
Aug 19 - 5AM
not-an-idiot
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wow

Pluh. The projection, blame, attempted guilt trips, attempted grasp for victimization, put downs ooh then a few compliments! These tactics go on and on, switching rapidly. After reading this I was apalled at the parallels between this email and texts I get at random. It hurts, if you defend yourself it just keeps flowing with ferocity. They hear what your complaints are about their personalities, then try to twist it instantly to make US have those traits! As if that solves the problem and we should say "I'm so sorry I caused you such a low self esteem" and "get over it" and come running back to them. Its sickeneing. Don't unblock him. I had hope and tried that. Surprise, surprise, history repeated itself. They can't learn what we try to teach them to be better people. No wonder we felt crazy! Its maddening to deal with.
Aug 18 - 5PM
juliamarie
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Well, there's more

To my email that said, "hey...you've done enough...I get it...no need to rub salt in a wound and involve my mother". He responds with: "We both need closure in our lives. (keep in mind that when he broke up with me, he curled up in fetal position and refused to talk). You have said and done things to me that far outweigh my assessment of you in that email. You clearly didn't read the things I loved about you. Nothing I have said can be any worse than you telling me that you always dated self-made men, and that it was a mistake to date me (again, after he had broken up with me and refused to talk to me about it). I was laid up in bed for days after you dropped that bomb on me. I actually have been in a funk for weeks because of that statement. I know you think you are better than me, and you're probably right. However it would have been nice for you to keep those thoughts to yourself. I never worked as hard on a relationship as I did with you. What I got in return was verbal and physical (??) abuse. I could handle that, but I could not handle the fact that you never accepted responsibility for your actions (I love that part!!). You always minimized them. As I said in my previous email, I believe you will find the right man you want because you are an amazing catch for any guy. I wish I could've been that guy, but your low assessment of me as a man was just too much for me. I already have a low opinion of myself, I don't need anyone else piling on"
Aug 18 - 5PM (Reply to #14)
Hunter
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BooHoo!! He did get " you are

BooHoo!! He did get " you are an amazing catch " right! Ok ,now ,stop feeding this leach!! Delete,Delete,Delete!! Hunter
Aug 18 - 5PM
Hunter
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I think it's really sad!! I

I think it's really sad!! I think when they drink thats when they feel! I think he speaks the truth and this goes back to Goldie's blog. " do they love" I also believe that live and think moment to moment! Lastly he's fucked up and it's not your problem! Tell your mom to block him! You cant fix this! Hunter
Aug 18 - 8PM (Reply to #11)
juliamarie
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Good news

Yeah...my mom is out of town and non-technical. He's blocked from her email as well now. She will never know the difference. I'm sooooooo over this. It's a drain on my energy, and I have plenty to give to people who appreciate it.
Aug 18 - 10PM (Reply to #12)
Hunter
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Good Job. He's nuts and its

Good Job. He's nuts and its not your problem. Hunter
Aug 18 - 5PM
BadaBing
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buncha crap!

@juliemarie my condolences. lol he sent this to your mom? lordy! " hope you can be my best friend again " what kind of statement IS THAT? he sure isn't your best friend! don't waste time trying to make sense of it, just put your efforts into NC and moving forward each day
Aug 18 - 4PM
Sparrow
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He is a total ass.........I

He is a total ass.........I could hardly continue to read this bull crap! What, in that letter would make any woman go running back into his arms? He barely gives any effort at all.........thank God he is an idiot, makes him less tempting to want, huh? He is an angry S.O.B.
Aug 18 - 5PM (Reply to #7)
juliamarie
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Thank GOD for this forum

If I hadn't educated myself on narcisstic abuse, I would TOTAlLY have started questioning myself again. Was it me that criticized him all the time? Do I have a problem with being overly critical? Maybe I should change so he will love me....
Aug 18 - 5PM (Reply to #8)
no more
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juliamarie

Doesn`t matter what you do,,,,,you can jump thru hoops,,,set yourself on fire,,,whatever it would take to get him to notice you. It just is not going to happen. Please don`t get caught up in his type of behavior,,,,it is evil and malicious. He will not ever love you like you deserve to be loved. I am still struggling to figure this all out. Have a long way to go yet,,,,but I do know nothing I change about myself will ever matter to these PD`S. We would not have found this site if we truly thought there was something wrong with us. We know they are defective,,,and very CRAZYMAKING.. Be kind to yourself,,,learn to love yourself,,,we can not give love to another unless we FIRST love ourselves. All of us on this site need to discover self love first and foremost. I know I can walk the walk and talk the talk,,,but it has to be true to you first and foremost. LOve yourself first and then just maybe we can love another. Sending prayers and hugs to you and eveyone that found this site. HUGS

I just got involved with the same N for the second time.
What was I thinking? Because I have put myself back to the same point where I am blaming myself again. And for what?
I want to get rid of these feelings again.

Aug 18 - 4PM (Reply to #6)
Layla
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Have a heart!

...can't you see he is about to pass out? LOL!
Aug 18 - 4PM
Layla
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Hey, maybe bamboo shoots under the fingernails.........

....might cure these abusers! Yes! Bamboo shoots under the fingernails WITH shock treatment! I think this guy is on to something! Might I suggest a guinea pig for this experiment? I happen to know someone who would be a great "test case".....let me know! ; )
Aug 18 - 4PM (Reply to #2)
juliamarie
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Agreed

I love how he's torturing himself one minute, and verbally beating me down the next. It's a great reminder why I don't want to have anything to do with him. If I had any doubts that he's changed, they are gone now.
Aug 18 - 5PM (Reply to #4)
spinning
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julie, you go girl!

You've got that down... Note how much he misses you but how you're so mean, cruel, RESPONSIBLE for all his problems and his "low opinion" of himself. I mean in that last paragraph is there supposed to be a compliment in there somewhere? Are you supposed to just SWOON over that "heart-felt, romantic" note? WTF???? Note that his opinion of himself is not so low, though, that he's not beyond playing the sympathy card by emailing your MOTHER! He thinks so highly of himself that he thinks your mom and others will jump on the bandwagon and agree with poor, tortured him and beg you to just "allow him to be happy" by taking him back! What a complete NUTJOB. I'm so glad you're done!!! Oh, my heart just breaks for the poor tortured little boy who just CAN'T SEEM TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIMSELF! Oh the tragedy!! (NOT)!!! Oh, and maybe the bamboo shoots would prevent him from using the keyboard...therefore I'd like to sign up to give him the treatment myself! Most sincerely, (not) spinning. THOUGH I'D LIKE TO GIVE THIS GUY A GOOD GO ROUND!!!

spinning

Aug 18 - 4PM (Reply to #3)
Layla
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best part is where he is describing HIMSELF!

"You can be cruel. You can be insensitive. You can be moody. You can be narcissistic...yes, I said it! You can be intolerable at times. You can be a miserable travel partner. You can be ungrateful. However, you can be charming, you are incredibly funny, wonderfully thoughtful" If the aftermath and pain of dealing with a N abuser wasn't so dead serious, this would be HILARIOUS!