He called yesterday

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#1 Jun 8 - 9AM
terri
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He called yesterday

After what I thought was the most final and less dramatic ending of the entire 10 year relatinship, I didn't think I'd hear from the exN - especially now that I know he's moving on to date others. I considered the real possibility that down the road a bit (months) he would attempt contact for some trivial thing. But yesterday afternoon he called me at work on my office phone (no caller ID). I admit that he caught me by surprise.

It was a checking in call (how are the kids? how are you? how is your (health issue)?)

The converation was peppered with "I see (such-and-such) that reminds me of you and the kids", "I think we've made the right decision to move on but it's very difficult", "being here in this house reminds me of all the plans that we had made to be a family here together", ... well you get the picture. About 30% of the conversation (about 10-15 minutes) was that sort of thing.

No stated reason for calling other than to see how I was, "I worry about you Terri, I don't think you realize that or how difficult this is for me."

(uh, yah right! You seem to have found new friends to help you with your pain and sadness.)

I'm leaving for a trip to Italy in two days so I was very easy-breezy and came across as being happy and fine. And for the rest of the day yesterday, I was OK. But today of course, I'm feeling sad and anxious - like I need to do something about this. Not as bad as I used to though.

just thought I'd let you all know the latest and would love to hear your comments.

Jun 8 - 8PM
Deidre40
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I'm really starting to think

I'm really starting to think that the only viable response to these people is...GO FUCK YOURSELF. Of course, NC is better. But, if you answer the phone by mistake...or really have had enough? GO FUCK YOURSELF. Really fits any occasion. Sorry...I've had a really bad day. I have never loathed anyone in my life, but my exN...I think I might loathe him. I'm sorry you had to deal with this jerk! It's sooo hard for me. Oh please. They are all the same. Whiners. Manipulators. Connivers. Just makes me sick.
Jun 8 - 8PM (Reply to #16)
Hunter
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D40

That would be correct. If you want to piss them off call them out and laugh at them. Talk back with scrambled eggs. Understand the game and be prepared for rage to follow. Hunter PS Hunter can be a huge evil bitch. :)
Jun 8 - 11AM
Hunter
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Terri

Fuck Him! These guys piss me off! Do not talk to him! He's blowing smoke up your ass! Wait till he realizes your going to have fun in Italy, he'll rage upon your return! I bet drinks on it! He has turned your world upside down and your suppose to listen to his BS! I know you miss him but this back and forth can't continue if you want to get better! I want you to get better! Look forward, it's bright! Hunter
Jun 8 - 12PM (Reply to #13)
terri
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Thanks Hunter

He already knew about my trip to Italy and asked about it because I've been planning the trip for months. When he had returned my "things" to me after the last break (in a box on my driveway) he had included a guide to Italy that he claimed he had bought for himself but thought I would be able to "make better use of". Yesterday, he asked if I was going to use the book. I don't even remember what I said in reply - but it was pretty glib. He wished me a good trip and said that he thought it was great that I was able to have this opportunity to have this time with my daughter. He's right! So, I doubt I'll get a rage about the trip. And even though I sort of get the whole "hoovering" thing with these narcs (if yesterday wasn't a hoover, I don't know what is!), it just pisses me off that they kick you to the curb with so much grandiose "it's completely over and because of what YOU did or didn't do" crap and then call you back weeks later with the "I miss you and it's so difficult" crap. CRAP, CRAP, CRAP - it never ends! Here's the way it's supposed to look (NOT sound): Man realizes that he still loves woman. Man realizes that he is at least partly to blame (but most commonly ALL to blame) for problems and does what is necessary to overcome problems and meet in a happy middle. Man is ABSOLUTELY NOT even remotely interested in looking at other women, let alone dating them. Man doesn't want woman to start seeing other men because he doesn't want to lose this great thing that he's been lucky enough to find in his life. Man doesn't just call and say all of the same things that used to work before but actually comes around and starts DOING the things to SHOW that he is worthy of such a wonderful woman in his life. Well, now that I know what it will look like when I find it, I can start believing my eyes and not my ears!

Believe in yourself!
Terri

Jun 8 - 8PM (Reply to #14)
Hunter
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Terri

Im still taking that bet. Your trip hasn't happened yet. Upon your return he will find away to take you down. I hope he doesn't . If he doesn't Im buying. Hunter You are going to have so much fun. WAHOOOOOOOOOOO!
Jun 8 - 10AM
spinning
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Forget about it...

He's predictable. Typical. Sourcing for supply. You know the truth about this man. Italy is AWESOME!!! There is so much beauty there, so much culture, so much to see and do, so much good food and SO MANY GORGEOUS MEN that this person will be but a glitch on your radar screen, Terri! I can't wait for you to get there and enjoy it! Be open to all that is there. I predict you will not have time to even think of the N and hope it will be the beginning of your new adventure! I agree with Happy and the others. It's your choice, but if I were in your shoes I would do nothing. NC is the only way to finding joy and peace! Love you and have an excellent, joyful, delicious trip to one of the best countries in the world! Love, (not) spinning. I REFUSE TO. NO MORE CHAOS OR DESTRUCTION ALLOWED! THE BEAST IS DEAD.

spinning

Jun 9 - 11AM (Reply to #11)
terri
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Spinning

Thank you! I totally agree with everything offered on this post. NC is the ONLY way! Even my friends (off the forum) are strongly advising NC. These are the ones that last year were not so sure about whether he was a narc and thought I should give it another chance. NOW, they are on fully on board and think he's a huge asshole. The more I think about the call, the angrier I get!! WTF!!!!!

Believe in yourself!
Terri

Jun 8 - 10AM
nancyh
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So he stealth called you, huh

So he stealth called you, huh (sneaky bastard). Don't do anything in response because (1) you don't need to and (2) there is nothing to do. However, isn't it amazing how we were so conditioned to responding that you feel that you want to do "something". Enjoy knowing that you came off carefree and never let on that his call had any impact at all on you & most of all, enjoy Italy!!!!! Ciao, Nan

Nan

Jun 9 - 11AM (Reply to #9)
terri
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Nancy

thank you!! I stayed NC and damn glad.

Believe in yourself!
Terri

Jun 8 - 9AM
janine
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No need to do anything

Why do we always feel the need to react as though we have to do something when we hear from them? Stupid question, when we have been addicted to these people and it takes ages to actually detach. Old habits die hard. Oh Terri, you awful woman do not realise what the poor man is going through!!! Did he really have the cheek to say that? Good thing you'll be going to Italy soon, so you will not be tempted to do anything or think too much about him. Great weather around Rome, a friend just returned from there. Have a lovely time, enjoy the good-looking guys to take your mind off N. Buone vacanze.
Jun 8 - 9AM
Happy1
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terri

It's your choice, but it would be best to be no contact. He's just calling for his supply. He wants to know you are still there while he's dating others. He wants to know he can still call you any time. NC would help you in your recovery. Happy1
Jun 8 - 11AM (Reply to #2)
terri
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Hi Happy

My grandfather was a big fisherman. When we were kids, we used to go to his farm and fish with him on his pond. When he would catch his fish, he would put them on a "string" and leave them in the water as he would continue to catch more. The fish would not always die right away and occassionally, he would decide to let one of them go (depending on how many he would end up catching) and it would swim away. I feel like one of those fish that was still alive and got myself free from the string as he was busy focusing on the next "big catch". I am the fish that is probably the biggest one and has been on the string the longest. So he's not sure that I'm the one that he would necessarily let go if he decided he had too many. But I did get away and instead of swimming quickly away, I'm stunned from the big "hook" that I've been attached to all this time. And I'm a bit disoriented because I've been stuck on his string all this time and am not sure quite which way to go to get back to the part of the pond I used to feel safe and familiar in. But I'm still near enough and he reaches back into the water, grabs me again and puts me back on that string because he's just not sure that he's going to have enough, or any that are better than me, by the time he's all done fishing. So today, I'm having to be extra vigilant (again) at telling myself (and believing it) that I'm not a fish on a string waiting to be judged "good enough" or thrown back because a better fish has taken the bait and gotten caught. I'm having to work hard to remember not to even feel like I'm in a pond with other fish while he's sitting on top, throwing out his line to see how well he can do and just how many or how impressive he can "land". I'm the swan that is swimming on top of the pond that is avoiding him because he has disturbed my tranquil water and spoiling the serenity of my idyllic existence. In all seriousness, I think he has opened a door for me to walk through and pursue him for a reconciliation that he would never allow. When we "ended" things three weeks ago, I was unemotional and complacent and I think that has left him a bit confused. He doesn't want to reconcile but he still thinks he can keep me in the game and certainly wants me to chase him to get him back. Make sense? (coz I'm pretty confused)

Believe in yourself!
Terri

Jun 8 - 9PM (Reply to #6)
Arwen
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Terri that was one of the

Terri that was one of the most beautiful posts I have ever seen on this site. You really are the swan. You give the rest of us our self-esteem back with this image. thanks so much xoxo p.s. let your gut guide you...his call probably made your stomach feel queasy and uneasy and sick. Go with that. You have all the answers within you.
Jun 8 - 12PM (Reply to #5)
Sparrow
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Terri, I love this post. How

Terri, I love this post. How beautifully you write! I am also very happy that you are going on a trip to Italy. You will have so much fun. Try not to think of him, enjoy..... When you get back, you will have a clearer head and won't be asking what to do. Time away is a beautiful thing. Let it work its magic! :) Peace
Jun 8 - 11AM (Reply to #4)
spinning
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Terri, that makes perfect sense

and your fishing/pond/swan analogy is perfect. You are in a good place with this. I know it! It's good to have the "reality goggles" on and you certainly do! I am very proud of you on this! Be vigilant like you are and good things lie ahead! Be good to yourself, be patient, and most of all HAVE FUN!!! Love, (not) spinning. NO MORE!!!

spinning

Jun 8 - 11AM (Reply to #3)
Hunter
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Terri

This post is awesome!