Constant breakups?

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#1 Apr 28 - 7PM
Caligirl
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Constant breakups?

I'm just curious, did any of your N/exN's constantly threaten to break up or throw you out, and then by his actions or words remain in the relationship? Mine did and it was like this game. What is up with that? Power trip, control? I once read you can only work on a relationship when you're in it.

Apr 30 - 7AM
Susan32
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It was mutual

In my freshman year, the ex-Psych prof threatened to abandon me if I told other people how he was treating me. My threat? That if I found out he already had a girlfriend, I'd abandon him. In a twisted way, the latter one came true MORE than the former. Ns/Ps aren't that honest anyhow... and there's that hoovering. He was still hoovering me after I had exposed him. But when I met the girlfriend who had moved from LA to be with him... I went from MC to NC on him. I made good on my threat. I left town without telling him. When I sent thank-you cards to ALL of my former profs, he didn't get one. I also promised him that if he wouldn't make fun of himself, I'd ridicule him. I made good on that one too. He can never fault me for lack of follow-through.
Apr 29 - 11PM
Caligirl
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Thanks everyone

for all of your responses. KG, thanks for the welcome. Michele, thanks for your insight, well put. It was very helpful. Hopeagain, Sorry you felt so broken down. When my exN finished devaluing n discarding me, I had never felt so broken down too. I felt so violated and trampled on. Findingmeagain, Sorry you were scared. I have been there. It is hard loving these disordered men. Hugs to all
Apr 29 - 5PM
Caligirl
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Weird

"It was like he was trying to convince someone else in the room that wasn't there." My exN did something like that before we split up. It was like he was thinking out loud in deciding whether to break up. He said, "You ARE beautiful. No, but I've broken up with women for much less" (referring to things I said to him in self-defense). It was like I wasn't there.
Apr 29 - 6PM (Reply to #26)
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Yeah I was scared at one

Yeah I was scared at one point and said I'm getting out of here. He said NO please don't go I'm gonna come home and do right for you and the kids. Then he went into this back and forth dance alone. I felt bad for him he is sick but I still love him ! SMH maybe I need help too. I feel better knowing others have been thru this too though.
Apr 29 - 5PM
findingmeagain
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my ex N would just start

my ex N would just start arguements for me to threaten to throw him out then he would instantly play victim and go run to the other women to tell them how "awful" I was. My weakness is I don't like rejection I will openly admit this. I'm not use to people telling me no about things. So when he left and for a married woman my self-esteem was demolished. All during the relationship I would stand up for myself and be so strong. But then he hit me with the cryptonite and the thing is I don't even think he really knew I would be like this. But oh boy when he found out how tore up I was about this he stuck the knife in deeper. He has came back twice to only TRY and I use the word try loosely because when it comes to certain things that draws the line. I think he wanted money but he should've known better just because I appear to be weak doesn't mean you're gonna get money. This last time I just don't know what made him come over here and yeah he did that hoovering crap on me . Talking suicide and how much he missed us and how unhappy he was. He stayed 10 days here with me and everyday I would ask him was he lying and did he really mean what he says and he would say yes. Then last friday I asked him again he tried to lie and I told him I feel something is wrong. And thats when the jekyl and hyde came out literally. I think dude is like sybil or some shyt. It scared me it was like someone who was trying to convince someone else in the room who wasn't there. I still love him and wish he would come back around we have 2 kids together and have been together a total of 8 years. And this married woman he is with now he is using her for money but something inside me tells me he thinks he loves her and they may even get married if her husband divorces her. This is a big fear of mines and I don't even know why smh. I'M SO DAMN CONFUSED RIGHT NOW . I think about him alot not as much as I use to but still alot. At night its the worse I wonder what is he doing. Probably getting his freak on . He is really mad I blocked his number and emails smh but wth did he expect ? Me to just be okay with him leaving me again after telling me swearing on his mother's grave he was serious! smh
Apr 29 - 4PM
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The On Again/Off Again Relationship of the Prince&Princess

You can also call them the Duke&Duchess of Cambridge. The mainstream media has often referred to the "on-again/off-again decade long relationship between Prince William and Kate Middleton." They even said so this morning on NPR http://www.npr.org/ I love a wedding as much as anyone... but this little detail is as troubling as the weeklong courtship of Leo&Sofia Tolstoy, or the ex-Psych prof suddenly wanting to settle down, marry&have kids with me after only a couple of months. Instant love can be a MAJOR red flag. But can so these prolonged courtships. "Some day my prince will come"--but TEN YEARS????
Apr 29 - 4PM (Reply to #22)
ShaynasMommy
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Susan

I was thinking the same thing last nite. We only hear 1/2 of what the media tells us, too. My husband asked me " do you think he just cracked under the pressure to get married after all that time?" I replied (almost sutomatically) Yeah, probably. William is Charles' son just as much as he is Diana's, after all.
Apr 29 - 5PM (Reply to #23)
Susan32
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Now this is awkward...

Some Ns aren't friendly AT ALL with exes, others keep them along as supply. There are some ladies here on the forum who have good relationships with ex-boyfriends/ex-husbands. Prince William's ex-girlfriends came to the ceremony, including one who was only a brief teenage fling(!!!) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1381912/Royal-Wedding-Prince-Williams-ex-girlfriends-Jecca-Craig-Isabella-Calthorpe-came-close.html/
Apr 29 - 6AM
onwithmylife
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breakups

It was strange because once early on, I said to him, you break up with me for fear I will break up with YOU and he nodded like I had gotten his big secret, he had extreme fears of abandonment, I say his mother did a number on him in some way,shape or form.............
Apr 28 - 10PM
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Hey Caligirl....welcome to

Hey Caligirl....welcome to the board :) The whole last year of my relationship with my N was so on and off. We probably broke up every other month or so. When I think back....I feel like I was the one saying that we needed to part ways. I knew the relationship wasn't good for me. I would get so tired of the silent treatments, total disregard for me, insensitivity, accusations that I was too sensitive, controlling, overly dramatic....total projection! I would say I can't do this anymore. She would be the one to say but I can't imagine life without you, you can't throw all we have away....blah blah blah. I would always come away the sorry one....I never have apologized to any other person in my life as much as I did to her! Then I'd try my hardest, do my best to be patient, understanding....until I just couldn't take it anymore. My tolerance for her antics went down and the amount of time I could put up with her behavior got shorter and shorter. She finally said to me during an argument that she wasn't in love with me...that we should just be friends. That was the final straw for me and I told her I was done. Yes...it's all about control and having the upper hand...even if it is totally passive agressive like my N was! Strength and hugs to you :) ~KG
Apr 28 - 10PM
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Caligirl

You pretty much answered your own question, it was about control, it was about breaking you down, it was about mixed messages, intermittent reinforcement and dysfunctional dynamics, all orchestrated to confuse you and have you totally lost yet begging for more. It is what ABUSERS do and it was abusive...it was a homerun with the destruction of your sanity...and even if not in the midst of PTSD, don't think that or another form of complete destruction of you wasn't his goal. It's all how these disordered individuals get supply and "feel good" about themselves. Hugs!
Apr 29 - 6AM (Reply to #18)
HopeAgain
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Caligirl...awesome, awesome,

Caligirl...awesome, awesome, awesome explanation of what these mofos do! I was never so broken down in my life.
Apr 28 - 10PM
ifinallygotit
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break ups

He broke up with me three times (really four but I broke up with him the first time he did silent treatment me because I was so much mentally healthier in the earlier years of the 10 year relationship. He often told me he would get rid of any woman who was bitchy or high maintenance. He once said " I never gave any of my girlfriends keys to my house"...implying I was just like all the previous ladies to him... He never fully opened up to me in 10 years. We never fought ever, he would just shut down if it got emotional. He only lost his cool and yelled once when one of his ex GF's exposed him to me and told me I was probably not in the exclusive relationship I thought I was. My naivete and vulnerability with him now makes me sick. I was such easy prey... I think some of his other old GF's were tougher types than me - he was a hard core party guy and I think he was with bar ladies... off topic... But yes he would indirectly threaten me that if I displeased him I would be gone. One time I did displease him doing something entirely normal and he threw me off his property and did not speak for a month. Then acted like nothing happened and was back with me normal for a year until he left town permanently and abandoned me.
Apr 28 - 9PM
Deidre40
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lol I know...not funny!

lol I know...not funny! Shower tile. Unreal. I remember when he didn't want me discussing the people on the forums. It never made sense to me, I respected his wishes though. Well, one day...oops...I slipped and told him a story I had read off of there. He said...if you bring up those forums again, I'm breaking up with you. How do you like that Dee?? I bet he shit his pants when I ended things with him. Twice! So there. We got back together, and less than 24 hours, he was a dick aaaaallll over again. And I ended it...again. I don't feel happiness over hurting someone. But, I do feel like it took courage to overcome my fear of loss, by ending the very thing I was afraid of losing. Thank you for clarifying!!
Apr 28 - 8PM
Caligirl
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mystwoman and Dierdre

Myst, my exN thought he was perfect too and it was also a one-way street with him. Any problems and he would say "fix it." Dierdre, I also told my exN that I might have a fear of abandonment. I regret that too. I remember his first "exit" was shortly thereafter. I also left, so yes I guess I showed him I was strong and not afraid of loss. I had forgotten how he used that to exploit me.
Apr 28 - 8PM
Deidre40
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YEEES!! Constantly

YEEES!! Constantly saying...if you bring up 'xyz' again (and it was truthfully always a conversation I never would have thought would offend) I'm breaking up with you. I shared with him my fear of loss...that stemmed from my childhood. He exploited this. I regret ever telling him such private things. But, yes yes yes ...threats are all part of the narc game of power and control. They want you on edge...always waiting for the other shoe to drop. I broke up with my ex N. It showed him that I was not afraid of loss. I didn't lose anything, though...when I broke up with him. :P
Apr 28 - 7PM
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Oh yes. Xnh was constantly

Oh yes. Xnh was constantly throwing it into my face that if I didn't do whatever he wanted at the moment, he would just leave me. I can't even begin to count the times he threatened me (including at the end when he told me, "Maybe I'll just beat the sh*t out of you until you divorce me."). I'd owned the house we lived in, since before I'd ever met xnh, so it was a little harder for him to throw me out than it was to stomp out the door while threatening me with a divorce. Xnh, also, drove off and left me places while he was in a rage multiple times. Of course, one time xnh jumped out of my car threatening to leave me, and I accidentally ran over his foot when I drove away. I didn't do it deliberately, but I have to admit that it was satisfying to me that he had to hobble all the way home with tire marks on the top of his bruised foot, merely because he was being a flaming as*hole in a rage. lol. You are absolutely correct, it's a power trip. Narcs are all about control. Your comment about only being able to work on a relationship when you're in it is so true. Unfortunately, only ONE person working on the relationship is not enough either. I wanted to work on our relationship. Xnh seem to think he was just perfect in every way, and he didn't feel compelled to put forth any real effort. As is typical with a narc, everything was always a one-way street (his way). We fought constantly. Sad to say, but we even got into fights about whether or not we were fighting. Xnh dearly loved to fight. It was like a sport to him. It is really interesting to me though, that after threatening to leave me a million times (or more) throughout our relationship, xnh seemed totally stunned and shocked that I actually threw him out of the house when he cheated, and it was me that filed the divorce papers. Xnh honestly acted like he could bully and abuse me for years, but he was going to remain in the relationship forever anyway. When I finally called his bluff, he was shocked. I seriously don't think he knew how to react. I pretty well defined it for him. Start packing, and find somewhere else to live, because living in my house was NOT an option. rofl.

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Apr 28 - 7PM
onwithmylife
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Caligirl

He devalued and discarded me so many times I was keeping tract until I lost count, if I did or said Anything he did not like, out the door he was, I even felt, before I knew an anything about NPD, that HE always had one foot OUT THE DOOR AT ALL TIMES.He would always come back weeks,months later after I was recovering un til he left for good for out of state,after we had talked about making the move together, he had zero commitment to our relationship, he knew at that point that i was onto him, because I wrote him a letter saying why is this relationships always about your needs, wants, what about me too? that was it for him.a total dictatorship, but an object to him, a sex object, I would say.It is control and you do not do that in a loving, caring,committed realationship, that I do know for sure.
Apr 28 - 7PM
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Caligirl

Breakups were constant. They started out as overnight types of things - our relationship was long distance so who knows what he was doing. He would get very upset with me, go silent, tell me he could no longer do this and he was breaking up with me. My part of this game was to beg and plead and apologize, repeat action, until he said he would give me another chance. That went on for 2 years. In May of last year, he broke up with me for three months. He dated his neighbor during that time and came back to me after three weeks of NC. We were together for 2 months, he broke up for another 3 months. Came back completely unexpected and we were together for 2 months and he broke up yet again. All three times he went back to the neighbor. I now know about D&D element to this so get it. I also think that each breakup gave him a logical "reset" button to those around us so we were always at the beginning and wouldnt be seen as failing. Finally, beyond the three weeks of NC I mention above, we were always in contact so he always knew where a ready and willing supply was when the others got old or didn't work out. His honeymoon phase could shortened with me.
Apr 28 - 8PM (Reply to #9)
Deidre40
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Ugh rew...all that

Ugh rew...all that apologizing. I know that part of the game well. I'm sorry you went through this. :=( I then added another part to the game...when I left him. You should all add that to the game. :P
Apr 28 - 10PM (Reply to #10)
ifinallygotit
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deirdre - too late

he abandoned me for good it appears - after his move. In the 10 years I only broke up with him once I think in 2004 for a summer. He never begged me back. I called him about 2 months after I dumped him when I was stressed by a neighbor stalking me. He took me back instantly without much discussion. He said just don't ever leave a voicemail like that ever again (I broke up with him on his voicemail and said his kisses were fake and did not mean anything - they were just kisses - he did not really care whether I was dead or alive). I guess I knew intuitively that he was a fake act long ago but here it is 6 or 7 years later and I spent so many years trying to have a normal love, only to have it end in the craziest abandonment...My things are still locked in his house here nine months later. I will never beg for them as I do not really need them and it might be good for him to see the wreckage of what he did to me some day if he returns...I plan to move before that day comes... I truly never thought he would totally disrespect my humanity...
Apr 28 - 8PM (Reply to #2)
Caligirl
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Rew and OWML

Thanks for the comments. That is interesting about the letter. I was catching onto my exN too and telling him he was abusive, that was when the d&d became intense. He was extremely verbally abusive and manipulative. I wouldn't beg, but each time call his bluff. After the final horrific d&d, I left. I agree this is not love to constantly threaten to leave. Mine would also say I'm done, start packing, go home, it's time for you to go. I was long-distance with my N for awhile (we hadn't even met yet), and he was doing it. I'm glad to be off the roller coaster.
Apr 28 - 8PM (Reply to #3)
HopeAgain
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Same guy, different body!!!

Same guy, different body!!! Same here...he broke up with me constantly and enjoyed seeing me hurt, squirm and beg. He did the same to two other girls I've been in touch with. It's the power trip, opportunity to go looking for more supply, & causing pain which they totally get off on! He would say we were always "on and off"..just like him and the only other girl who stuck around even longer than I did.
Apr 28 - 8PM (Reply to #4)
Deidre40
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I don't mean to pry...but

I don't mean to pry...but I've read this on here a lot about ''begging.'' When you all refer to this here...did you actually BEG for the man to not break up with you? I'm just curious. I would apologize, but didn't beg.
Apr 28 - 8PM (Reply to #5)
HopeAgain
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Not "beg" in so many words

Not "beg" in so many words but just try to I suppose rationalize with him...that the argument was not that bad, that our relationship was worth saving, etc. It was always for some INSANE reason...he once broke up with me because he disagreed with how I was going to clean my shower tile. Yep!! I said "how I was going to clean my shower tile" It was sort of like being in total surreal shock that something like this would actually end a relationship. But now I know: 1) he was completely insane & 2) it was never a relationship. Ahhh...clarity!
Apr 29 - 7AM (Reply to #6)
onwithmylife
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Hope Again

You will love this one after reading your comment about the bathroom tile and he threatened to break up with you, he said to me once'I don't know if you can come over to my place anymore, if you cannot pick up your hair in the bathtub', I had done my best to pick up the few strands hair and it was not like i left a full head of hair in the tub, what A NUT CASE!! what normal man would say that ??????
Apr 29 - 9PM (Reply to #7)
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My narc was a master at the

My narc was a master at the silent treatment and you make me sick looks. I wouldnt even know what I had done. When I ask him, he would say nothing. Looking back, I was probably taking care of a sick kid, mowing the yard, cleaning the house, grocery shopping or working instead of kissing his silly, sorry ass. I think I was his mother figure and he was jealous of his own two kids. That would explain why the sex was so lifeless. I guess its hard to get passionate about your mother. Once reality sets in on these jokers, its amazing what you realize. I wish I had been as strong at the final d&d as I am now. I was just so beat down at that point. Narcs suck!
Apr 30 - 3AM (Reply to #8)
narcissizednomore
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Yes, Narcs suck

Boy oh boy, do they ever. The silent treatment only works with empaths like us. They suck the life out of us, don't they? I want out of this freakin' game.

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