Email from narc..he is wanting me to go NC,to block..grr..

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#1 Oct 15 - 10AM
shortway
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Email from narc..he is wanting me to go NC,to block..grr..

I see my friends all the time.... its amazingly obvious y I don't see u..... U R NOT MY FRIEND.... OR ANYTHING ELSE..... In case ur still confused... I've asked u many times.... please...just leave me alone... I will not stop by, not gonna get a drink. Or dinner, or anything... I just want my peace.... that means u leaving me alone.... GOOD BYE.... I wish u would block me too. It would b a lot better....

I hate him..He wants me to block,go NC..it will serve him well....I hate him!!

Oct 16 - 5PM
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Shortway

I know its tough to hear the truth. Trust me I know. I am an addict but I have to say in reading some of your posts previously that you were in the denial phase. I read one that said "I have peace now" Girl you have no peace. You are in terrible pain and experiencing a huge amount of frustration because you want him to behave and he wont. Im not judging trust me. Ill straight up tell you I was talking to the Narc last week. I admit it. I confessed it right here on the board but the first thing you have to do is admit that you are addicted to the situation. Only then you can start to purge yourself of it. Can you make a post and say it? Tell all of us that you are addicted to him and the Drama? Doesnt mean that you arent gonna fall off the wagon. I had to say after 21 days of NC. I was embarassed! Hell Ive been on a 3 week contact binge. It just means that you are acknowledging what he and the situation are.
Oct 16 - 6PM (Reply to #40)
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In the early stages of

In the early stages of recovory to start to point the finger at ourselves as if we are to blame for the abuse we had is a very destuctive act . To say we are all addicts is a gross simpelfication of our feelings , ultimatly we are all responceble for our emotions but i for one did not excpect someone to come along and manipulate me to such an extreem as my narc . am i am addict ? well i am now ... i wasnt before this prick raised his ugly head .Its really important to be gentle with youre self , no one deserves this kind of abuse xx
Oct 16 - 5PM (Reply to #33)
shortway
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I know..I'm the first one to

I know..I'm the first one to admit its like an addiction..I wrote a whole post on that..How we keep going back for more to try to get that one little high(good part) of him that we remember..But are stuck with the toxic-hangover bad stuff..I"m the first one to admit this..I said there should be a conditioning and learning course on Narcs and what it does to us..I am the rat in the cage pressing the button..But after a while..You press and see the results and you slowly get it..I"m getting it..Yes I was at peace for a second..Cause I thought the N actually apologized...But fast forward to nowand I realize he is just playing his trickery..and I'm putting shoes on so I don't slip in this mess..I am trying to get a bigger distance between my highs and lows of the situation..before it was minute to minute..then day to day..now it's spreading further..The more I realize the more I get it..the more of the presssing the button past couple of weeks..more I'm like..why the heck would I press the button..there is no cheese there..lol...
Oct 16 - 5PM (Reply to #34)
gettinbetter
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The button pressing may go

The button pressing may go on for awhile.... I think its natural for everyone to feel like their situation is "different" that your "different or he's "different" that something is unique to your situation. The more you come here the more you realize its not. It just isnt. We got played. Thats all. I read Helldwellers post and it reiterated all of it to me. They are playa's and they aint never gonna stop NEVER. You were not special or unique to him in anyway. There is probably multiple OW I know its like nails down a chalk board to hear it but it really is the truth. You felt good for a moment when you thought you got him to behave. You want to win to conquer him. It wont happen. I still cant get past this part. I still want revenge and to make him pay. Im starting to begin to realize Im not gonna get any satisfaction.
Oct 16 - 5PM (Reply to #35)
shortway
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Yeah I know..the need for

Yeah I know..the need for satisfication is there..But today I am seeing his behavior is like he is throwing a hissy-fit...blaming me,yelling,anger,threats..and he is really running with it..I just am trying to turn my back and be like "Ok..you do that..have fun with that..i'm going to the city,i'm going to have peace,i'm going to do laundry"..laundry is actually better than dealing with that..I'm just trying to leave him to his own demise..Mine is also a drug addict,so I also have been dealing with the issues of that..it is also possible he is bipolar..I picked up his medicine and the doctore prescribed him all these weird meds..Mayb he is seeing something I didnt know about..Either way it is too much for me to be around..
Oct 16 - 6PM (Reply to #36)
gettinbetter
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jsut be prepared

your gonna have days where you feel like your on top of this sitauation. Like you have all under control (i saw that in some of your posts) I read some of your posts I wanna say about 10 days ago and all I could think was Oh no the crash is coming for her. Anyway there are gonna be many more days of the crash. I just know one day it will stop. It did for me when I was with the Narc all those years ago. This time round 2 I dont know how long its gonna take but I just keep tryin...
Oct 16 - 6PM (Reply to #37)
shortway
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I know..I'll probably crash

I know..I'll probably crash in like 5 minutes lol ...but hey i'm going to enjoy this while I can..life is short..i need to grab hold of it while I can...
Oct 16 - 6PM (Reply to #38)
gettinbetter
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The bottom line is shortway

The bottom line is shortway that there will be no "shortway" out of this. They are like a cancer. All of the bad cells are eating up your body and brain. Coming here is like chemo. You are killing off the bad cells. In the process of doing that you feel like you are almost dead. Then your body begins to make new healthy cells and we call that remission.
Oct 16 - 6PM (Reply to #39)
shortway
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yes!!!!!..perfect

yes!!!!!..perfect analysis..Right now Ii'm trying to get healthy again..he is so unhealthy..I was talking to my friend about it today..I really think it is that he might also be bipolar as well.The doctor must have seen something to prescribe him these meds..OR that he felt that being that he was on percocets for so long that he prescribing some sort of stabilization meds for him so his brain re-adjusts.... Very weird...I just can't be close to a drug addict or an N..It's a lethal situation..I was even taking care of him through a home detox..I can't be around him..He is not stable..He is now taking sleeping pills,smoking weed,drinking,taking anxiety meds,taking antidepressants...and possibly steroids..all wrapped up into a NArc...it is hell on wheels around him..
Oct 16 - 2PM
shortway
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I read that.I"m sure I have

I read that.I"m sure I have that..But I am trying to bounce back aas quickly as I can possible..I have been through alot..i had to bury my best friend and stepbrother a few years apart..I've suffered..But somehow not like this..this is brutal..For some reason his words just bounce right off me today...the "i don't want anything to do with you" hurtful words..in my head..I'm agreeing..I don't want anything to do with you either..So its like the wound is closely..and the salt is only barely hitting..if at all..I am trying to keep it this way....
Oct 16 - 1PM
shortway
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Sorry I appreciate you and

Sorry I appreciate you and your help. but I just don't appreciate some of the comments breisis.. 1-saying I am on a soapbox--i opened up alot..is it bad that I am saying I am happy in all other aspects of my life,am I not supposed to remember that..???? 2-that I have imaginary laws--no if someone is verbally threatening you it's against the law,threats with a gun etc.. 3-that i am not happy...I am happy in all other facets..
Oct 16 - 3PM (Reply to #29)
Briseis
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Shortway

I'm responding to both your posts here :) It's "bad" (read: dishonest, thus preventing yourself from understanding yourself) to insist you are "happy and fine" when your words describe misery, defeat, rage and depression. Unless you really didn't mean them, and were exagerating. I only have your words to go by. I can't see your face or your life. But I read your words and did my best to understand them, where you are coming from. And using my own experience of having been newly "out" from a Narc relationship too. Then, considering what this board is all about, I "assume" you are in a very unhappy place else you would not be here at all. Your quotes: "I just can't help it...I can't...I just want to STOP him from moving on after what he did to me..It's just not fair...I feel like I"m literally drowning tonight..In a pool of abyss..I broke NC" "i honestly feel like I am getting like an N..like I am having fits of rage just like them....great.." "Yeah it's too late to take a xanax..I'll be groggy all morning..However if i cant sleep i might have to..I'm very angry tonight..I am feeling that it is officially going to start ot affect me wellbeing..Ive been having girls night and going out etc..But I'm feeling the grinding halt..big time.." "thanks i'm on the border of taking a xanax..i'm just like numb and why not my head be numb too..so sick of it..I tried to keep in my head what my friend saw the ther day on his facbook page..how he was mad at the new OW...But then i realized I"m living a fantasty...and that I'm sitting here alone,upset,hurt,lonely,bored...stewing in it,obsessing,broken,a mess,anxious,not stable...and he's not..so yeah I'm mad..It's like ow much can a person take...I have highs and lows..and i've hit a real low...just dont care anymore..i havent hit the not getting out of bed part...might be now though...all-time low" These are real states of unhappiness . . . I just want them to be validated, not "tossed off". They are real. "Imaginary laws" . . . well, threatening with a gun is breaking a real law, that's for sure. He should be reported for that. But there were a lot of other things that seemed to me, anyway, to say that you thought he should or shouldn't do, which you have no control over. I called them "imaginary laws" not just for YOU but because we all have them LOL. The Narc hurts us, and does stuff that is just outrageous, and we want to control it. We think we SHOULD try to control it, or we sit there shaking our fists because we want to control it SO BADLY. My point is, who are WE to think we should even want to or try? Just to make ya think, that's all. Honestly, I don't want to beat you up or anybody up. There's just so much FOG and confusion that gets stuck in our brain, causes us to go in endless circles that lead back into how bad you felt a few days ago. Sometimes a "shock" is what stops the circling . . . just to make you think, examine what you are thinking . . . see what's going through your head in a different way. It's not a knock against you as a person. It's a knock against the brainwashing that is controlling your thoughts. Cartoon characters get a crack upside the head and "wake up" :D . You know when you have a friend that is freaking out and you just want to grab her by the shoulders and give her a little shake and stop the madness? You don't want to HURT her, you want to HELP her, and she needs a little boost from the outside :)
Oct 16 - 3PM (Reply to #30)
shortway
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I know...Thank you

I know...Thank you breisis..He has just put me in a state of despair at times..Because when i was cheated on i was already down for the countthe nto be ridiculed on top of that and blamed for it..can you imagine..So on my climb up,he was tryingto beat me back down..and I was also beating myself back down by looking at FB,responding,having him hurl words at me..That is when I was desperate..The more I am away from him,the more I can be my real self..which is happy and loving,and whole..I can't let him devalue me anymore..It is starting to to cut so deep because ..i waited until the storm passedafter the cheating to see if he was going to let it go..and he is still very angry..I can;t be involved with it any longer..I am turning a corner..and hoping the car stays on the right track..I will have my lows,,but my highs make me remember what my net worth is....and it is the complete opposite of vile,angry,toxic,nasty,insensitive..I am being dragged in the mud..And trying to wash off now..
Oct 16 - 10AM
shortway
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SO before I blocked him

SO before I blocked him yesterday he wrote this... "Ur really starting to bother me now... ur gonnapush me to far and that will b the end of it...I promise ...." I woulnd't have even tried to write back after I called him a P.o.S..and all that...he just wants to keep me around obviously.....kinda funny...blocked!
Oct 15 - 2PM
shortway
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But c'mon didn't you like

But c'mon didn't you like that last word I wrote when I wrote....."sucka!"...hhahahaha
Oct 15 - 2PM
shortway
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And yes I am happy as i can

And yes I am happy as i can be..I didn'rt stay in bed.I've been having girls night,meeting new peopel,running my new business,spending time with family..I'm as happy as one can be without being degraded,insulted,blamed....But ya know what..he is just going to ruin my life further..I met a nice guy who is a friend of my friends family....he lives in europe and is coming here during christmas..but he happens to be friends with a guy in europe that is cousins with the N's co-worker..So things will get tied up and ruined of course,becasue he will try to ruin it for me i'm sure....
Oct 15 - 2PM (Reply to #19)
Briseis
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Bullshit my friend. I see no

Bullshit my friend. I see no definition of "happy" in anything you write about yourself :( I see sadness, grief, loss, shame, rage and emptiness. I can see that because girlfriend, I WAS you. So utterly obsessed and preoccupied with HIM, so cut off from what I was really feeling, so cut off from my own life and hopes and dreams all I could do was obsess about HIM and what HE was thinking and doing. NOT happiness. No matter how many "guys" are floating around out there in Europe or the states or in Timbuktu. You are desperately unhappy, and no one here is fooled. We sure do love and care for you anyway (((((hugs))))) and hope you'll just get down off that fake soapbox and be human with the rest of us :)
Oct 16 - 1PM (Reply to #20)
shortway
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Thats not true..Breisis..I

Thats not true..Breisis..I am happy..I am being dragged down by a drug-addict..Narc...To say i'm not happy is something he said to me..it's like playing into what he wants me to be..I have my dream job now In europe..I just spent 1mth in europe with my family traveling a whole country..I am buying my own place soon..I have been meeting alot of new people..He wants me to NOT be happy and thats not going to happen..How is it a soapbox...trying to rise above it daily..the lows..am I supposed to stay in the lows and sulk..No I'm going out and TRYING.. You are desperately unhappy, and no one here is fooled.So I'm not on a soapbox...woudl you rather me be laying on the floor... and hope you'll just get down off that fake soapbox and be human with the rest of us :)
Oct 16 - 1PM (Reply to #21)
Briseis
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Oh HECK no, of course not!!

Oh HECK no, of course not!! I would rather you be beyond worrying about what HE wants, and reacting to what HE says or what you imagine he would be saying to drag you down! What I was trying to say to you is that I see your misery. I believe that your life can be very good and happy and fulfilled in certain parts. An excellent job, family and opportunities to see the world, yes! But not here. This is not a forum people come to because their relationships are spectacular and happy. People come here because of PAIN. You did. And you tell me you aren't feeling any pain or unhappiness? A person can have areas of unhappiness in an otherwise good life. Even in the worst of my relationship with exN, I had this beautiful farm, with happy animals and it filled a hole in my soul I didn't even know existed :) I also hear you saying that if you admit to unhappiness that he will WIN or something. I get that. What I don't understand is what an elevated place he has in your head. It's like HE is sitting in your head like demonic possession.
Oct 16 - 1PM (Reply to #22)
shortway
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He just emailed me from his

He just emailed me from his business account on facebook..uggghh....I forgot to block that account.. "U get what u deserve.... I really couldn't care less what u think.... its ur problem that ur so miserable.... I want nothing to do with u ever again... EVER..... let people think what they want....doesn't bother me, cause I know the truth..." I get what i deserve because I've been having ashtma...nice..it struck a cord because he is saying i'm miserable..i'm not...he is making me miserable!..he knows the truth..he has lost his mind...he is delusional...
Oct 16 - 1PM (Reply to #23)
Briseis
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Any thoughts you might be

Any thoughts you might be having about demonic possession? Why he's sitting there in your head with some kind of power to wish you ill?
Oct 16 - 1PM (Reply to #24)
shortway
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I have thoughts on

I have thoughts on that..he's evil and is going to burn in hell...he is a creature not a person..yes he gets in my head..somewho he can..guess when you are so close with someone for so long you know their weaknesses and he preys on them..and it makes me stew....he's so toxic and unhealhty..i have never experienced anyone like that..i've never heard of such a mean spirited person..
Oct 16 - 2PM (Reply to #25)
Briseis
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http://www.vainencounters.com

http://www.vainencounters.com/forum/2010/10/16/cptsd and from this: * Changes in How the Victim Views the Perpetrator A person with Complex PTSD may feel like he has no power over a perpetrator (the perpetrator has complete power in a relationship). In Complex PTSD, people might also become preoccupied with their relationship with a perpetrator (for example, constant thoughts of wanting revenge). It's that last part that has me thinking of you. This was me, for most of my relationship, and especially in the first year afterward. I sense "myself" in what you write about yourself and HIM. I can remember how this feels :( . And my N was as toxic an evil bastard as yours and all the others here. I'd never experienced anyone else like him, either. Except for my father, but I was a child and didn't realize what he even was. That "demonic possession" thing isn't really demons, of course :P It is a symptom of CPTSD.
Oct 15 - 1PM
shortway
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I know Brisies..the other

I know Brisies..the other day I went contact because I had left the door open and sai"the door is always open to you if things change and you get help"...so i wanted to retract it because I fetl vulnerable...So I said"the door is not always open"..that's when he is threatening the NC..and all that..wow he is good at his tactics huh..true N...Its like he can block me..Sorry I also said" And did you ever think why you are so mad at me....Hmm let's see here is your reality check..you got caught with your pants down with a nasty girl and since you aren't man enough to apologize,you just blame blame blame...til you're red in the face..so instead of facing it,you run like a coward blaming the other person..and even when the other person wants to make amends..you can't because in your head you think a real man doesn't apologize or set things straight..so you cower away cause it's easier..cause it would take balls to actually confront the situation....and if you give in..you think it's a weakness..when really its a strength and the charactersitic of a real man....which you aren't...i have guys lined around the block and flying in from italy..glad i am reminded how great a guy can be..telling me i'm beautiul,asking about my day..just sweeties..i don't even have a problem with what happened that night..just your behavior..it's sickening..so go to hell...cause guess what I'm happy:)..found great guys..and you're stuck with that..sucka! I know Breisis..But he thinks he can just say all this stuff...I'm not desperate,He isn;t the one in control...I said what I said.. He is saying to block him.....So it's like when do we ever want to give an N what he wants!!!!!!..I'm in check mate..I can see him smirk if I block him..like hahah she weakened to what I say again,she does what I say....
Oct 15 - 2PM (Reply to #14)
Briseis
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You were kind of jerking him

You were kind of jerking him around, too. At least from HIS perspective. You made an offer, then retracted it. We know why you retracted it, and no shit Sherlock, it was a good thing to retract it. But from another person's perspective, it looks like you were just jerking him around. He has no idea you felt vulnerable, you know? You are "in the arena" playing the games with him when you do this. You are letting your feelings and impulses run your life right now. You get a feeling, and then you act it out. You don't have to do this. You can have a feeling, and NOT act it out, but sit with it and let it pass. He thinks he can say stuff because HE CAN SAY STUFF. He is an autonomous human being with full rights to say and think and believe and smirk. He has the right! Even if he's being a bastard, there's no law against it. You have NO say on what he thinks or says about you. It is beyond your control, it always was and it always will be. Whether you like that or not is irrelevant. It just IS. You ARE desperate. You are behaving desperately. Here's a dictionary definition of desperate: "showing extreme urgency or intensity especially because of great need or desire." You have great need and desire to WIN, to smash him down, to get on top. Your behavior belies your desperation. It's OK to acknowledge that. This board is about getting honest with yourself, even when you see what you don't like about yourself. Every one here admits they were desperate. You could not possibly be the ONLY new member who isn't desperate. And no you aren't happy either. And you haven't found "great guys". You are going round and round on a squirrel cage, feeling better for a few days, and then when that feeling inevitably changes, you go right back into desperation and trying to WIN with him. That is NO definition of happiness. You let him dictate your life like you were his puppet. Aren't you so very sick and tired of this???? You can stop this. ONLY you. You are doing this to yourself. That is what we all end up realizing :( Are you that different than the rest of us, Shortway?
Oct 15 - 2PM (Reply to #15)
shortway
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I know breisis..but i

I know breisis..but i disagre there is a law..with verbal threats and he is lucky i didnt use it on him.. "there's no law against it. You have NO say on what he thinks or says about you."....threatening to put bullets in me and my friends head if we look at the girl wrong..threatening to watch me drive my car into a tree..there is a law...and i was this close to using it....
Oct 15 - 2PM (Reply to #16)
Briseis
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There is a "law" in your own

There is a "law" in your own conscience. You know what he said is WRONG. But that's as far as it goes IN REALITY. In the greater world outside Shortway's head, Shortway is powerless to enforce HER laws on other people. Unless she wants to go to prison, or be shunned and alone the rest of her life. People do not take kindly to that :( You AREN'T the new Sheriff in town with this Narc, Shortway. That is grandiosity, and it will get you hurt even more than you are already hurt.
Oct 15 - 2PM (Reply to #17)
shortway
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I don't get it

I don't get it brieis...you're missing the fact he has made verbal threats via text message on my phone,my mom's phone,my friends..all i have to do is bring them to the police if i felt threatened physically..which right now I don't because I am not around him..but he had made more threats than I state..So it isnt a law in my head..
Oct 15 - 1PM
Briseis
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Remember your post of a few

Remember your post of a few days ago, when you wondered if telling him you were gonna go NC was better than NOT telling him and just going NC? He's trying to go NC with you. He's just doing it in the way we discourage people on here NOT to do. Are you still trying to get in touch with him? Emails or texts or voice mails? I'm wondering . . . you said you broke NC the other night when you were feeling so bad. It's like you are trying so HARD to "win" with him. I wish you could see that you can just stop, turn away and drop the whole thing out of your mind and life and not care who "wins". This is harsh stuff, Shortway. You are on the other end of an attempt at NC. It must burn your ass honey (((((hugs))))) but I tell you what. Even Narcs have their boundaries. Even WE can get out of control with our attempts to contact. If only you could see beyond this obsession to WIN :(
Oct 15 - 1PM
kiwi10
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uhmmm

dude... does yours double space between words too???