He doesn't stop

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#1 Oct 12 - 7PM
Amiee
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He doesn't stop

I was having a good day today, felt I had taken back power and was making progress then I get this email. I am so angry! I want to respond and let him have it, I have horrible thought of revenge but I am going to continue NC because it is supposed to be most effective. When does it stop and what will he do next. I feel so awful! I am moving on, making plans and all he does is make me angry. This is so insulting, words are hollow and worthless, assclown. He is mocking me! Sorry to take up so much time but I have no where to vent....

Stupid insulting letter -

Dearest XXXXX:

This is by far, the saddest, most difficult letter I have ever written. I am not even sure that you will read this, I couldn't blame you if you didn't, yet pray to God that you will.… I must begin with another apology (I hope that I can express my sincerity better than I did with the last). I have many excuses for my actions and perceived misdeeds, but now realize they are too little too late, and you do not want to hear them. I have acted badly, taken you for granted, displayed incredible immaturity and even worse, been very, very inconsiderate of your feelings and emotions. As stupid as this sounds, I never ever meant to hurt you, and never even imagined that these actions would lead you to end our evolving and maturing relationship.

Please bare with me here, this is very difficult for me.… You have done this before, but as you know, I had recently been abandoned in my only other relationship, but never have I been dumped, nor even thought of writing a letter like this. Even as I type, wearing my heart on my sleeve, I am not sure if it is proper for me to even send this to you. I have been up all night/morning crying, lamenting my actions, damning myself, and trying to figure out what to do next - I must follow my heart and send this to you…. I beg your forgiveness. As this great sadness envelopes me, my heart aches so much, all I can think of are the great times we have had together in our short relationship. I know you asked me to "lose those memories", but I cannot. I will never forget my feelings of child-like curiosity as we emailed back and forth in late March, my sweating palms while waiting for you at Vino Russos, and the joy in my heart at our first real kiss on that cool April evening. Never in my life, had I experienced such a beautiful and sensuous woman. I could never keep my hands and lips off you, and loved to make love to you over and over. You quickly became my best friend and confidant. I will miss the opportunity to treat you like the princess you are; cooking and cleaning for you, holding your hand, opening doors, washing your hair, protecting you, helping you at every opportunity, placing your needs above my own - it has been 5 months of pure joy, and was always my absolute pleasure. All those adventures together; the dinners, trips, family functions, star-watching, hiking, dancing, the evening at the Colonial, Lava Hot Springs, evening walks, concerts, the 4th of July weekend, the wine, the roses…. are all now firmly embedded into my memory and are part of my persona. Even with my obvious relationship dysfunction and inexperience, my feelings for you are genuine, and your's was the best relationship I have ever, and may ever, experience. I now understand that I really messed this up, mistreated you, took you for granted, and now must pay the price - lose you forever…

I need you to understand that I am not angry nor disappointed with you in any way, you are truly a wonderful person, and I don’t deserve your love. This is all my fault, and yes, I realize you no longer want to see or hear from me ever again, I just hope that someday you will allow me to continue to consider you and your family, friends. You have some wonderful people in your life, and I sincerely enjoyed every minute I shared with them. I am alone here, and to feel the caring from your Mom (especially your Mom), Brother, Sister, and their families was unexpected, and greatly appreciated. I will treasure their unconditional love towards me, based solely on my relationship with you, forever. As much as I tried to shelter you from my many problems and emotions, you well knew I was/am going through some confusing, difficult, daunting and crazy times in my life. Your experiences, wisdom, and caring have helped me tremendously. I have learned a lot, and will always appreciate your patience, forgiveness, and nearly tireless understanding. In my long life, this truly was “the worst of times, and the best of times”, but times none the less, that have left an indelible mark on my heart and soul. XXXXXX, you are a beautiful, intelligent, sensuous, kind and caring woman, I miss you already, and will never forget you… Again, I am truly sorry I forced you to end our relationship, I am broken, and know I could have done better. I wish you great happiness and great success in your personal and professional lives, I know that you will continue to positively affect other’s lives as you have affected mine… God has, and will, continue to bless you.

Yours always, with all my Love,

John
assclown

Oct 14 - 10PM
ruby01 (not verified)
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OMG,

My attention span will not even allow me to make it through this letter. It reminds me of one of those bulk mailings where they just insert your name. He's a bore.
Oct 14 - 3PM
Scoop
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"washing your hair "???..

"washing your hair "???.. pass me the sick bucket .. for the love of God ! You know what to do with this letter.. NC NC NC xx
Oct 14 - 9PM (Reply to #32)
Amiee
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yes, I know..

It was one of his fetishes...funny thing is he complained my hair needed to be longer. Ass Clown
Oct 14 - 2PM
Deidre40
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whenever a sentence begins

whenever a sentence begins with...''i need you to understand...'' rest assure. a narc is the author behind it. *eye roll*
Oct 14 - 1PM
Tigerlily
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Arrgh!

Puke. Barf. Vomit. Why can`he just drown in his own unctuousness. Scrambled eggs, I`d like to scramble HIS. Grrrr! Tigerlily
Oct 14 - 8AM
Used
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HAHAHA.....HE GETS 10 OUT OF

HAHAHA.....HE GETS 10 OUT OF 10, FOR BEING THE MOST MENTAL NARC ON THE BOARD..
Oct 14 - 9PM (Reply to #28)
Amiee
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:)

Thank you!! I think he is a case.
Oct 14 - 2AM
ssm
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NO WAY!

Oh..MY ..GOD!!! I am trying hard not to laugh, but I am sure this is not funny for you, or any of us that have experienced this kind of psychopatic BULLSHIT!! I TOO had a similar letter written in the past when I got up and left (for the millionth time), i swear they copied each other, it was so exactly like yours..!!! NC NC NC NC NC NC NC!!! YOU CAN DO IT GIRL!! HE IS AN ASS CLOWN, a fraud of his demise. DO NOT GIVE HIM POWER, he doesnt even deserve the much deserved insults from you. YOU ARE SO MUCH BETTER now and he cant stand it!!!
Oct 14 - 8AM (Reply to #26)
Amiee
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Thanks!

No the letter is ridiculous! It has only angered me and pushed me to no contact even further. It is actually the force to not call, not text nothing. I read it and I am so insulted, I won't talk to him. Thanks! It's nice to know he isn't special, he is just an average loser.
Oct 13 - 2AM
Sea
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He said it! "you are truly a

He said it! "you are truly a wonderful person, and I don’t deserve your love" He admit he didnt deserve and in reality he doesnt deserve. NC!
Oct 13 - 1AM
emtg
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AMIEE

I know exactly how you feel - here is the letter I received today coming off a good week and feeling empowered. perhaps the similarities will help you stay strong! "I didn't and still don't think things are too destroyed to continue. If i thought that maybe I wouldn't feel so sad about everything all the time. All of the things I said and have said are possible. It would just take both of us to make it work. I feel so sad that we aren't trying together to become the people we can be together. I have so many different feelings about everything that has happened. They all wind up at incredible heart-wrenching sadness the degree to which I had never known. Things are not too destroyed to continue. We had a horrible couple of months which neither of us ever wants to experience again. The willingness to continue, which is a choice in the face of adversity, is not there. We could choose to try to work things out, which I know we could, in time, and build a much stronger relationship, mending the parts that need fixing, reexamining the foundation of our relationship and building from there. Unfortunately the adversity we faced was stronger than our love for one another. And it is so incredibly sad. I feel like we have been apart for long enough to where we could try, slowly, to mend our relationship. Tempers have settled, anger subsided, the arguments and disagreements...some seem so silly looking at them now...the way we dealt with them does not look silly at all, I'm horrified at most of my behavior and myself in those situations. If I was where I am now, it never would have become that bad. For that, I am so so sorry. Think about before we got engaged...before the pressure of wedding planning and working at the same time...the reasons why we got engaged in the first place...it wasn't all wonderful all time but it was most of the time and there are instances I would like to change about those times as well. I know we could have that and more. If only we would work together, knowing neither of us ever wants to revisit this time in our lives. Ever. So so sad. I learned in therapy that I've missed you so much since before all of this happened. Fear and self preservation caused emotional walls to be put up. I tried to call you and tell you how I feel and what I've done and your response was that I was being manipulative. Pouring my heart out to you and you say I'm trying to manipulate you. I wasn't. I'm sorry I caused you to feel that way. I was telling you how I truly felt and how I am in the process of changing. I want to deal with issues in a productive, emotionally secure way. I want to address issues head on and not keep them to myself. Now when I have an issue with a client for example, I call them and tell them, or I visit them, rather than putting it off and avoiding it. I've made so much progress. When we first got together I said I would show you how much I cared for you and I did. You were skeptical about how I felt and whether I was just playing some game. You allowed me to show you once and your family and friends told me you were happier than they had ever seen you in your life. I got off track from that and I'm sorry. For many reasons. Some of which I have dealt with and the others I continue to deal with. I have techniques in place that are working to keep me on track personally and professionally and ways to ensure I never get off track again. I know (I think) part of your fear is due to your previous relationships where you have stayed in them too long to where you wished you had gotten out way sooner. And I agree that you stayed too long in them and fought and had a lot of pain caused and resentment. I think you see yourself possibly repeating the same mistake with me. I think that you gave the other relationships too much of a chance and ours not long enough. Dr. heitler would have told us not to get married. She would have told us if it was time to call it quits. She repeatedly said she thinks we can work through it but both of us had lots of emotional baggage that needed to be worked out. I think she was right. I don't think we exhausted the possibilities. If things were too destroyed, she would have said so. I have gone back through every email and tried to identify where things went wrong. I definitely pinpoint where certain things started going bad and identify my role in them. some things, like the Cymbalta and its effect on my sex drive became an underlying pervasive issue that I should have addressed but was scared to. Through my work with dale, I no longer have those fears of addressing things to the same extent. I am off the Cymbalta feel normal. Sex was such a big part of our relationship and I loved it. I loved having sex with you, being close to you, being intimate with you. I lost that completely because of the Cymbalta. It had nothing to do with you. the worst part was the Cymbalta made me indifferent to that. I am so sorry that my lack of affection toward you made you feel the way I did. It was horrible of me to not address that issue because I felt ok with it. I was so scared of having those racing thoughts of jealousy and suspicion. Looking back I see it was at a enormouos cost both to myself and to your self esteem. Not being on it, I don't feel like I'm in the clouds like I did and didn't realize. It numbed my sense of wellbeing, it didn't enhance it. It was impossible to tell that that was what was going on. I am so sad and so sorry. There are so many little things that if they had been addressed would have prevented all of this I think. If we could just slowly try, without the contempt and hatred and animosity...and get back to basics, starting with the oralsex cornerstone of relationship. :)"
Oct 14 - 1PM (Reply to #23)
Tigerlily
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Arrgh again!

Same verbal diarrhoea, different communicative style. Arrgh I can`t stand it. Hey Guys, let`s start a new thread satirizing narcs "apologetic hooky after breakup letters". I can`t start, mine never apologized. His mails were only abusive (covertly, of course - the skunk). Tigerlily
Oct 13 - 11PM (Reply to #22)
Amiee
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OMG THE ASSCLOWN!

I am so sorry! Is this Assclown's name John???? My letter was insulting but this is degrading! He isn't a mental health professional?
Oct 13 - 8AM (Reply to #18)
Hunter
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Emtg

Ok you win the Narc of the month award!! He's Nuts!! Hunter
Oct 14 - 12AM (Reply to #19)
emtg
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I"m obviously missing a piece of sanity

That I find these letters not tempting - but not crazy and nice and genuine. what am I missing? other than reality.
Oct 14 - 12AM (Reply to #21)
Amiee
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Wait

did I misread the post? You said letters. As far as my letter, it is eloquent, romantic, and hollow. These are just words he crafted and I am sure he is really proud of himself, maybe he will save it for next time and just have to edit a little. My perspective is from the history and the double meanings. I found it insulting and demeaning because I knew while we were under the stars he got text from another woman, I know while we were in Vegas he got text from Pamela - his east coast GF xo. He continues to act like I didn't know, which is insulting. If any part of that letter was sincere, actions would have been louder that words...
Oct 14 - 12AM (Reply to #20)
Amiee
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Sanity??

You know this person when he can be good or kind so you can see the words from a different persepctive than me. I just see the words. What I saw is an emotional detachment, your purpose to him is "oralsex" not we need to develop a respectful relationship, you are important to me and I care how you feel; I need to protect your feelings. It is about what you can do for him. Maybe he was trying to be funny but I felt he demeaned you and your person. HUGS!
Oct 12 - 10PM
58 and going strong
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"XXXXXX, you are a beautiful,

"XXXXXX, you are a beautiful, intelligent, sensuous, kind and caring woman, . . ." YES! And you deserve a beautiful (in his heart!), intelligent, sensuous, KIND and CARING man!!!!!!! And definitely Not an eloquent manipulator. There is a reason why you are here with us on this forum. Just remember what he did and how you felt then. Actions speak louder than words!
Oct 12 - 9PM
Deidre40
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he's full of shit. good

he's full of shit. good letter writer. please delete. and move on. ''you are beautiful..bla bla bla'' as if you should only think this of yourself because HE says it. that's what they do. delete. move on. don't reply. it's all bullshit. seriously. stay strong!
Oct 12 - 8PM
Amiee
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Thanks..

I am having a really hard time motivating...this has thrown me for a loop. I think this will be the past contact from him...he is posting on dating websites in NY. I appreciate hearing what you think and your advice...this feels like crap. And yes these are words and words are cheap, actions. HIs actions and lack of actions have been yelling at me. :)
Oct 12 - 9PM (Reply to #13)
ready2receive
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breathe

Before you respond to the letter, try to just sit with the pain and breathe through it. It won't destroy you and reacting/responding will only prolong the pain anyway. If you give yourself 24 hours to decide whether to respond or not, you will undoubtedly wake up in the morning very very glad that you did not respond. That is the method I've been trying. I know how hard this is, Amiee. You are strong.
Oct 12 - 9PM (Reply to #14)
Deidre40
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do not respond to this

do not respond to this letter. that's all he wants. a reply...to which he will reply...and then the verbal letter writing tennis match goes on and on...until you're hurting, and he's ignoring you...and the silent treatment ensues. they are masters of manipulation. DO NOT RESPOND. if he was capable of all this...why did he wait until you broke up with him to be nice? it's all a game. on some level, he may feel he fucked up. but, what he wants is for YOU TO WANT HIM. AND WHEN YOU EXPRESS THAT. AH HA! Then, he will ignore you. Trash you. Insult you. Tell you...''you know, you were right. we should stay broken up.'' PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND. MOVE ON. THERE ARE MEN IN THE WORLD WHO HAVE THEIR ACTS TOGETHER, WHO ARE HOTTIES...WHO ARE GOOD IN BED...HAVE CHARISMA...AND ALL THE THINGS THESE NARCS POSSESSED...WITHOUT THE NARC-SHIT. Forgive me if I'm passionate tonight about this. I just do not recommend replying. If you're done, you're done. Delete...and block him. He is full of shit. I'm telling you. They are all full of shit, at the end of the day. And all they want is to get back into our lives...to use us some more. We have the power to say no.
Oct 12 - 8PM
ready2receive
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Letter must be mass produced!

I have practically the SAME letter sent to me by my N during his last, big attempt to save our relationship. It is uncanny. Proof that N's just have LEARNED what to say with NO REAL EMOTION behind it. He may even really be sorry...but he CAN'T follow through with "change" because people don't change their fundamental personality - they change behaviors sometimes and that is what he is doing here - as a ploy to get you to continue NS. When I got this same letter, I was at first touched...then ANGRY. I printed it out, made notes on the side lines about the total opposite comments he said/wrote just the week before. Because I was not in NC mode at that time, I called him on every point (ex: Today I am the most wonderful person in the world, last Thursday I was XYZ). I tell you this in the hope that you won't waste your time and energy like I did. Words are easy to come by. Writing is a skill, not an emotion. We deserve someone whose ACTIONS match his/her WORDS! So sorry you have to deal with this.
Oct 12 - 8PM
really
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If you are intent in

If you are intent in maintaining NC, don't open/read any further communication. It's the only way. You're not being fair to yourself by reading and thinking about what he says. It's just too, too hard. Technically, you're not really NC because you just had contact with a whole lotta his thoughts documented in that email. That's something to think about...
Oct 12 - 8PM
Sparrow
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Ok. I will be the first to

Ok. I will be the first to say it.........and will probably pay dearly for it. That letter would have had me. Sorry.............it was eloquently written. Can't help but say it. I do have some questions though, before giving my opinion........at first, I thought this was a letter from young, up and coming male, say in his early 30's until he mentioned his "long" life........that is where I grew somewhat concerned. I don't recollect your story, my apologies, so will try to go back and read them.............. I have to say, with all fairness and honesty. Not every man that possesses narc like characteristics, is a narc. We all possess narcissism, healthy levels.............it's what keeps us balanced and provides us with self esteem. I may be missing something..........so let me read first before I assess.
Oct 12 - 9PM (Reply to #9)
Amiee
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questions

He is almost 50. His "divorce" or abandoment by his wife is suspect. I am begining to think she had a gut full. Do you think there might be something redeemable about him? He has women in Idaho (me), Jackson, WY, Dubois, WY, Danbury CT, these are the ones I know of... He made it my fault and turned himself into the victim..UGH!
Oct 12 - 8PM (Reply to #7)
Hunter
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Sparrow

He's a crazy Assclown like the rest of them, trust me on this one!! Hunter
Oct 12 - 8PM (Reply to #8)
Sparrow
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I can find nothing here to

I can find nothing here to read as far as the history, so must agree unless I am convinced otherwise.............
Oct 12 - 7PM
Goldie
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Amiee

This is not about him stopping, it is about you stopping. He is not going to stop because he is able to easily control you and get away with his bad behavior. Why wouldn't he want to keep you in his life? He can have his cake and eat it too and send you crazy emails to play with your head some more. This ends when you end it. Put a block on your email account so that his emails do not go through and if you don't want to do this and still like to read them, then do it when you are ready to stop feeling this pain, or you can delete them. Reading them only keeps the drama alive in you and makes it nearly impossible to let go of him. This is your choice. God bless, Goldie
Oct 12 - 8PM (Reply to #2)
Hunter
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Aimee

Goldie is always right!! If you must read what this says... Me,me,me,I,I,I,.. "he doesn't blame you" really?? Fucking Assclown! Delete! Hunter