Winter solstice ceremonies helped me see my ex-N in a new light

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#1 Dec 22 - 11PM
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Winter solstice ceremonies helped me see my ex-N in a new light

Hi gals, thanks so much for your support.

I'm sooooo glad I went to winter solstice ceremonies. Connecting with my community and connecting with the earth & spirit really forced me to see reality and things I've never seen before.

1) In my spiritual community there are amazing men. These men honor women, consider them sacred and value their uniqueness and gifts. When I experienced (for the umpteenth time) their love & compassion this holiday, I was forced to compare the ex-N to them. He is a confused & 'broken' 8-yr. old compared to them. Twice this holiday one of these men, a kind of 'older brother' to me, gave me some tough love about my trusting my own intuition and wisdom. He doesn't like that I always ask permission about things and don't trust my gut. He asked me to be mindful about how I disempower myself in a loving, clear way. My ex-N harped on one of my insecurities because it 'annoyed him' and he wished that I'd stop it immediately so he wouldn't be bothered by it. How UNSUPPORTIVE, UNLOVING, ASLEEP AND UNMASCULINE of him to treat me like that. True partners are HEALING partners, and I would never belittle someone for their challenges.

2) For winter solstice last night we had a moon ceremony. In this area the sky was very clear, we could see all the stars, and the full moon was incredible. And even though it's a women's ceremony, we allow men to join us. Last night one of the men in the community joined us, and he was HONORED to be with women who braved the cold for hours in order to pray and honor the earth. He was MOVED and said that he wanted to bring the sacred feminine more into his life and consciousness, so he could be more of a true man. When I compared my ex-N to him...there was no comparison. This morning, this particular man hugged me & told me I was important to him and he felt we were both growing together, and he was proud of me moving to California on faith. The ex-N almost never acknowledged me, nor could he accept acknowledgment or praise from me (which I never understood). This man, and all the men in my community, really 'see' me, in the truest sense. Ex-N only saw what he claimed as supply to fill the dark void in his soul...he really never saw me or knew me. Nor will he be capable of 'seeing' or truly knowing anyone, not himself.

3) While I have a lot of crises of faith (sometimes several in a day!), deep down I really believe in the interconnectedness of all things & people. Animals, trees, rocks & people are all sacred to me. When I visited ex-N, I immediately recognized the magic and deep knowing of his dog. That dog completely knew the deep pain ex-N carried and really worked hard to be a healing companion. There is no mistake that dog came into his life and he is blessed beyond measure to have her be in service to him in that way. Did he see that? Never. When I mentioned how special she was, he would reduce her to any old animal and would claim that she's basically stupid...which broke my heart. He trained her well to be obedient, but in a way that smacked of control and ego. He had her on one of those leashes that wind up in a plastic case; when he released it and she could walk far, he'd say to her,'Free, go free!' Unbelievable...he used the term 'freedom' as if it were something he could give and take away...totally f*kd up. And he's completely unconscious of it. I think if her ever 'woke up' and saw how he truly is...he'd be as horrified as I am.

4) Ex-N was UNSAFE. Being with my community this weekend clarified that. He was a horrible communicator, and admitted it early on. He didn't know what he was feeling and would throw his anger indiscriminately. My brothers & sisters in this community work really hard to communicate with love & compassion, even when it's anger or disappointment. Ex-N wasn't capable of the consciousness to be able to do that. He is truly asleep. I had a 'relationship' with a wounded, broken child who doesn't know how much he needs help & treatment.

I have wounds & scars, but I know it. I know what parts of me are 'broken' or in need of repair...and I DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I go to therapy. I talk to friends. I scream for 'help' when I need to. I come here to these AWESOME boards. I read personal growth books. I go to workshops. I reflect on my words & actions & try to grow, heal & change.

Ex-N could only tell me that he had abandonment and trust issues, and that they were big for him. Wow, really deep. I fell for that b**l sh*t.

Hey ex-N: Yeah, your dad died when you were 4 and your mom's always been an active alcoholic...takes a lot of 'insight' to figure out those issues, huh???? Well, you need to WORK ON YOUR ISSUES to wake up. Walking around claiming you know what they are is BS, if you don't really see them present in your daily life. If you don't see them and seek to heal them, it's all an act to make it look like you're awake and self-aware. You couldn't be self-aware if you tried. You're completely asleep and unconscious and mired in your own self-deception & numbing. You may not drink like your mom, yet have your own addictions - obsessively reading science fiction...being a perfectionist & crazy control freak...controlling other people...watching a lot of graphically violent or dark-themed movies...

Ex-N was a really, horribly, unbelievably f*kd up man.

This solstice gave me that gift of awareness.
And I also learned that my BPD mom primed me for all the NARCS (7 or 8?) that I dated. It's very clear to me now.

If I had not grown up with my crazy, BPD mom...all of my ex-bf's wouldn't be narcs.

That crazy BPD mom of mine really screwed up my head. The presence of this most recent ex-N in my life is proof positive of that.

This morning, when that 'big brother' of mine was giving me a pep talk, he said, 'Leah, your mom may be f*kd up, but YOU'RE NOT and your instincts are good and you need to trust them.'

I need to undo the programming of my BPD mom.

I need to learn to trust myself and my inner knowing. Nobody can do that for me. No amount of outside validation can do that for me. I need to do it from the inside. It's an inside job.

PD'd parents are awful. They should be denied permits to have offspring. Or they should be required to release their children to non-PD'd families. The trauma they inflict on their children is horrendous.

I promise to stick to this healing path. I will not let the deceptions & manipulations of the ex-N continue to stomp on my self-esteem.

And I'm the ultimate abuser of myself, if I'm not mindful.

A few weeks ago I went to a women's retreat & took a sacred hike in the woods. I had a moment when I heard the following words...I don't know where they came from,,,

"The presence of an abuser is your life is the external evidence of the internal presence of self-abuse."

I am dedicated to healing that broken part of me. I am going to be more conscious of trusting, seeing & knowing myself.

Thanks for listening, gals,
Leah

Dec 23 - 6PM
Leah
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Hi guys...I really need to tape my post to my forehead

because the minute I go out in the world...to work...to do errands...I forget the truth of my soul and I sink back into depression and narc fog. I seem to have a short memory about what is truth & what it narc fiction. I just re-read my post and it's good that I did. All day today I was really sad. Just now re-reading the post reminded me of the truth. It's amazing how last night I wrote this post, but by this morning I forgot its truth...and my brain went back to square one. It's like I need a sticky note stuck on my nose, with the writing facing my eyes, that says, "You dated an empty shell who never loved nor saw you. You did nothing wrong except to be your beautiful self. Love yourself and discard the monster." Something like that... When I'm not in a 'safe space' (this board, at home, with a friend, with my community) it's like I forget who I am...I only feel/hear the words of the narc...which maybe unconsciously taps into the ancient evil words of my BPD mom...? It's like the words of D&D and that final, horrible call reverberate in my brain...it's almost like that energy never leaves me, and if I'm not mindful, feeling 'not enough' or 'flawed' or 'unlovable' or 'uninteresting' floats into my consciousness and I can't turn the words or feelings off. I think the recent D&D done by this particular narc has really touched the ancient 'buttons' of the daily D&D's my mother did on me when I was a kid...almost 20 years worth of mindf**king and abuse. That family home was like a war zone, literally. And my father totally played into the insanity, to 'keep us together as a family.' I can't tell you how many years I prayed for my mother to die or for my dad to institutionalize her. So I think that's why this most recent ex-N really did such a number on me. His abuse was really subtle and slow & progressive, so that I slowly bought into it and my own devaluing...just like I did over almost a 20-yr. period as a kid. This recent ex-N really got under my skin...and touched on stuff I haven't looked at for many, many years. I wish I could go to therapy every day. That's how needy I feel right now. So much is coming up, about past & present...it's hard to process it all & not get overwhelmed. This recent ex-N really got me good. But maybe it's what I needed, to get real about the childhood abuse & the deep healing I need to do. *sigh* Long road of healing ahead... It's hard for me to imagine eventually being with another partner because... 1) I'm too afraid I'll unconsciously become attracted to another PDI 2) I feel like I need years of therapy & self-help books to build up my self-esteem : / I know I'll be okay...I just feel really f**ked up (mental health-wise) & in need of a lot of internal work that takes years to do. I'm always up for the challenge (always have been, have been doing this kind of internal work for years)... It's just a deeper layer of the onion than I had anticipated arriving at...at this moment in time. I'm overwhelmed. And I think that's where some of the depression is coming from. Thanks again for listening, guys, Leah
Dec 23 - 7PM (Reply to #14)
Hunter
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Leah, you have just

Leah, you have just expressed what is called life. I feel like you do all the time. June Cleaver doesn't exist, cherish the good moments, deal with the crap, and some how we find a middle ground. Anyone who says they are 100% happy is lying. You are so special ,your gift to write is amazing. Again, great things will come your way. Alone time causes the mind to wander, for me too. I wish both our narcs were the real deal but they are not. I looked deep into him & honestly hes not for me. Your Narc is really not the guy for you, that I know for certain. Be strong! Ox Idealk
Dec 23 - 2PM
blueeyes
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Oh man,

This post reminds me why I had to remove BOTH of my children's father's from our lives. These men were dangerous how could I have put these kids through it is beyond me? It has only been a week that he has been completely removed and already the kids attitudes are 110% better. The house even feels homier. Ah, breath. Thanks Leah, as usual, your still going strong.....
Dec 23 - 6PM (Reply to #11)
Leah
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Blueeyes, I'm glad

that you guys are on the path of healing & recovery. Your kids will be okay. It's the removal of the toxic parent(s) that starts the healing process. My father never did that for us, and my sister & I paid a heavy price for that. You showed your kids that you love them and will protect them. That action alone is the most healing part for them - they know you are an emotionally safe person and that you prioritize them and their safety. You're awesome & brave & incredibly loving. You & your children will soar & thrive. Thank YOU for being such a supportive sister here! You're kicking a**! Hugs, Leah
Dec 23 - 7PM (Reply to #12)
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Thanks hun

I have hope for them. Although, the little one is as stubborn as I am so there is NO STOPPING her. Lol. She's a pistol! the N has been gone a week or so (for good) meaning no weekend visits for her and she is starting to make fun of his old habits. She put a dirty dish in the sink and announced "I will put this in the dish washer when I'm good and ready TODAY." Lmao! He used to tell her to NEVER have dirty dishes? Lol. I said "let's not do dishes all week in honor of him.". Ah, freedom. Thanks Leah! Also, I carried an article about cluster PDI's in my purse for a while. It helped to be a constant reminder. That's a better look than a post it on your forehead! Lol
Dec 23 - 2PM
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It was a domestic abuse

It was a domestic abuse community (on my first forum) that gave me the "mirroring" that enabled me to lift myself up and out of that pit. We really do need each other. Desperately!! That must be why I still hang around in spite of being out for three and a half years. A bunch of someone else's on that first forum, who'd been out a number of years, hung out to reach out to me and other newbies. If it weren't for them . . . I really don't know. I'm glad I didn't have to find out :( I don't want anyone else to be alone and "find out" either. The good is just too good. But you have to let it in. You have to decide who you are going to "believe". The "been there, done that" veterans, or the Narc and the sickness of your delusions that the Narc fostered. My greatest challenge has been my internalized stuff from having a PDI as a parent. I honestly shook off my Narc "easily", once I got what he was, only to discover that I had a helluva lot more work to do that pre-existed that idiot. Leah, you've been a member for five weeks. You have made amazing strides in that time. You aren't "slow" at all, in fact, you've blazed through at an incredible "clip", so to speak :) Now continue to seek out that positive mirroring as if your life depended upon it, because it DOES. In my case, getting that positive mirroring "re-grew me up". Since we are adults, we can speed through those developmental milestones we missed out on as children. We know where we are going, whereas a child does not. You are intact and whole, beneath the burden of your mother's and father's abuses. You have distortions and damage, but the diamond beneath -- your Self -- is untouchable, inviolable to such human generated nonsense. I like how you are hitching up those panties :D That is exactly what I mean. LET people love you and LET them mirror you. Take their words and reflections on you on faith if you have to. RESPECT the people who give you such love and support by BELIEVING THEM. Reject the nonsense and illness of your parents. That is pulling up the big girl panties :)
Dec 23 - 6PM (Reply to #9)
Leah
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Wow, Briseis...I just had a good cry

I actually just posted a new comment in this thread, right before I read your comment. It's amazing that what I just wrote...and what you're sharing...are soooooooooooo connected. You read my mind. I need that mirroring, you are right. When I'm out in California, I'm going to have a long phone & e-mail list & I'm going to make sure to contact several people a day...to not only help me feel less alone in my transition, but to do that mirroring stuff. I do really need it, now more than ever. And I have no excuses. Between all of you here and my other friends, there are lots of loving souls to support me. Wow. Briseis, this is big stuff. And I don't know if you say my reply to your post in my 'Tomorrow is his b-day' thread...that was another good cry too. Your words really help me open my eyes; you speak truths that I'm still walking towards and wouldn't be able to see clearly if you hadn't articulated them so well. Your insights are so on the money, it's uncanny. Thank you for 'seeing me' so well and for offering reflections that really touch my soul. Hugs of gratitude, Leah
Dec 23 - 11AM
StillHurting
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Happy for you, Leah

Keep surrounding yourself with great people, and you will move forward. Glad you enjoyed the celebration with these nice people!
Dec 23 - 12PM (Reply to #7)
Leah
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Thanks, StillHurting

I have to say, when I'm away from that community, that family...a lot of my dusfunctional thinking returns. It's like it's hard for me to love myself when I'm alone. : / That must be a topic for therapy.... It's a big challenge for me these days. It was always a challenge for me, but post-narc, it's worse. Thanks for listening & being supportive, Leah
Dec 23 - 12AM
Hunter
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Wonderful

Ahhh, the Butterfly has spread her wings. My God you are so amazing. Can you write a letter to my parents and my narc telling them off? You are so expressive with your words, simply beautiful. You really do have it together, you just need to see if for yourself. Do you realize how you influence others for the good? I'm here to tell you. Don't let a few assclowns ( teehee) take you down. All my love Idealk
Dec 23 - 1PM (Reply to #4)
Leah
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Idealk

Thanks for your words. I think I'm naturally expressive, but it gets me in trouble a lot. See my other replies...today I'm sad. I'm frustrated that last night I felt better, but today I don't. I think I have a hard time sustaining those kinds of feelings after I've left my community...my family. I guess today I don't feel like I have it together...I hope I'll be able to see that eventually. You're funny - how about you write that letter & share it with us? Thanks for your love & support, love & hugs, Leah
Dec 23 - 3PM (Reply to #5)
Hunter
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4 letter words

You really are too hard on yourself. You are so much better. The highs and lows are normal. As for me I'm very expressive, however, I express my feelings with a lot of four letter words. You've probably already figured that out :) Hey Narc "F&$; O$&" I think that says it all, short and not so sweet ! Oxox Idealk
Dec 23 - 12AM
michele115 (not verified)
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Leah

I enjoyed reading your insights immensely. It sounds like you are very much on your way. Sending hugs and thoughts of healing your way.
Dec 23 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
Leah
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Michele115

Sorry I haven't sent an e-mail yet! Have your contact info. Been super busy with preparing to move, solstice...being sad & disorganized. : / Thanks for hugs & thoughts...I need to absorb them instead of be negative. Today I'm sad & emotional again. Ugh. Last night I was a little, but today it's worse. I need to figure out how to maintain my emotions...or how o ride them better. Hope that made sense. Thanks for all your support, Leah