Why Dont They Break Up With Us?

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#1 Jan 27 - 5PM
kla2000
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Why Dont They Break Up With Us?

Hi. My ex-N and I had an argument 3 months ago. When he did not contact me for 5 days I contacted him. I asked him if we could talk about our disagreement. He said he was busy and that we would get together "soon". Well, it's been 3 months and whenever I contact him he says he's facing some challenging things at work and with friends. Perhaps he's looking for sympathy from me?

After reading the posts here, it appears he is using the Silent Treatment on me.

My question is, if he is angry or doesnt want to be with me any longer, why doesnt he just break up with me?? Why the Silent Treatment?

Jan 28 - 11AM
titta22
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kla2000.....Listen and accept

They all do the same thing. I was married to my exN and he would be the one to always tell me that it was over and he didn't want to be with me anymore....but he wouldn't leave. When i kicked him out once he came back begging for forgiveness so i took him back and when he told me once again that things were over between us in September i moved out with my kids within 3 days of him saying that.....he portrayed the broken hearted man to his friends and told them that i had left him and he told me that i was the one who ended the relationship because even though he said things were over with us he never asked me to leave. It's all a game to them, but it's a game that you will never win at because they want to be the winners every time. Accept it for what it is and walk away now because the longer you play the game the more you will lose. Trust when i tell you this because i was with mine for 8 yrs and have to 2 kids with him and not even because i was the mother of 2 of his kids, did he ever have compassion for me. The things he said and did i would never wish them upon my own enemy.
Jan 28 - 6AM
Happy1
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kla2000

Please don't do what I did 3 years ago. My N did the same thing and never officially broke up with me and ended up dating another woman for 3 months and then returned to me. Please OH PLEASE know he is just keeping you around as supply. I know we want to believe so many nice things and it isn't going to happen. I'm sorry!! Please accept it's over and move on! I truly wish I had found this site the very first time I he had done this to me and I could have gotten all this great advice from all these ladies. Only you can make the choice. It would be best for you to just disappear from his life. Good luck!
Jan 28 - 4AM
Scotchy71
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kla2000

Simple - you're supply for him when he needs it - he's keeping you on the sidelines, they all do it. He doesn't care about sorting it out, sorry this seems harsh, but the truth is better in the long run, believe me. He wants you to beg him, it's food for him - supply, that's all we are, good or bad doesn't matter. If you beg, he won't treat you any better for it. He's disordered, he doesn't want you to go just yet, you're still giving him what he wants. He's punishing you and if you ignore him, you're starving him - best thing you can do. If someone genuinely wants a relationship to work, they sort out issues head on - these guys never do, first sign of trouble and they run. Of course he's busy, he says he's facing challenging things at work and with friends? Well why is he concentrating on that and not the challenging argument with you? Why are they a priority and not you? Think about it, REALLY think about it.....x
Jan 27 - 9PM
Disillusionedx2
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don't be surprised if he says....

Don't be surprised if he tells you he hasn't broke up with you because you were never together! Don't try to make sense of the madness, he has broken up with you, he's moved on to a new supply source, gees, 3 months of not speaking, if that's not a break up I don't know what is. Be happy you're away from him, there won't be any closure or break up, that's just the way it is, read more into the disorder he is and move on, he's sick and will cause you nothing but hurt and pain, forget about him ASAP. This happened to me; I asked the nut if you were seeing someone else why didn't you just say that? He says, we been apart, but we hadn't been apart at all, its N sanity, run for your soul. stay~strong

stay~strong

Jan 27 - 9PM (Reply to #19)
kla2000
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The amazing thing

The ODD thing is that every other week or so he will text or IM me and say he misses me and that he has NOT let me go. The latest message (last week) i received from him said "i just need to wait for him to sort a few things out...and that he is worth the wait". LOL What the heck is that all about?
Jan 27 - 10PM (Reply to #23)
Disillusionedx2
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what's that about?

Wasting your darn time, and keeping you on the hook, he's got to establish this new supply source first of all, and can't do it properly with you underfoot. When mine began with the new supply he made every excuse under the sun as to why he needed "space" to think, well I don't give a rip, move on, but...don't attempt to call, text or visit me on your time/terms, not going to happen, I knew he was "grooming" a few supply sources but one in particular. He eventually admitted to being with her but only because he didn't want to "sleep" around as we ironed out "my" problem, lol. I'm like, fool, give it a rest already, wtf? You are N sane, I went in on him, lol, let him have a verbal beat down and told him to move around, you're crazy, anyway, he and OW had a knock down drag out battle, but he swore they hadn’t, he tried the entire time he was feeding me text, calls and such, he still does, about once a month, I ignore him. That is when he will be back, when she and him fall out, he need you on the hook to take back off, ignore him, delete him from your life by all means necessary. He will be back, no question, if you allow him, if you do, it's a cycle, will repeat time and again, cut him off now, best wishes. stay~strong

stay~strong

Jan 28 - 7AM (Reply to #24)
agnesmurphy17
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Keeping You On a Hook

They all do this. I left mine. The day before I was moving out, he begged me not to leave, wanted to reconcile & "make love" he said--forget this nightmare. Begged me not to divorce him & to date him in a trial separation. I agreed to that. Well, he left & went on a DATE with another woman -- in fact, he came over to beg me on his way to the date. What would he have done with the woman waiting on a date if I had agreed to reconile & made love that moment? As for seeing each other during this trial separation, he would send a rare e-mail to that effect. There was a 10 day period when the e-mails were coming several a day for 10 days. Then a demand for a divorce & silence. Two months later, several e-mails & some tearful calls about HIS LOVE for me. One month later again, e-mails & tearful calls. Then six months later again, e-mails & tearful calls. Thereafter, we were divorced one month later. Well, one month after our divorce, I was contacted by the woman who was waiting that day for him on her date. From that day forward they were an instant couple, & she made him happier than any woman ever had in his life (he said that to me & we too were an instant couple). The very last time I heard from him, apparently, she had broken up with him irrevocably 32 hours earlier. Everytime he contacted me to reconcile actually coincided with arguments they had had & she was leaving him. There were TWO exceptions. The first 10 day stint -- that was when he learned that the he could not refinance the house & that he would lose it because it would have to be sold. This was one month after I left him. He was trying to get her to buy the house with him & move in after one month of dating (but SHE never knew he could not get a loan). (His parents gave him the money to save the house for him. That he never told me, made a big theater to me about the debt I had stradddled him with in my cruel abandonment of him.) Another time he sought reconiliation when she had just moved in with him (into the house I still co-owned) four months after they had started dating-- he contacted me when he learned that (unlike me) she would NOT be paying for capital impovements nor investing in fixtures for a house she did not own. In addition, SHE did not cook, clean, or do laundry! &, then, suddenly he LOVED me & begged me not to divorce him -- if I had agreed to reconcile, what would he have done with the woman living in the house? Do you think this man ever told me he was dating another woman? NO. In fact, when he finally let me move out (kept my stuff hostage until he had a new woman installed), she was living there. I saw all her things in the closets which had once been mine. He took all my things out of the everywhere to make space for her. But even then, he did not tell me a woman lived there. She even opened the door (he could not be there one day) & said she was a friend helping him out & told me which rooms I could enter & which not because none of my stuff was there! And, I had hired a man to come with me as a body guard so as to never leave me alone with the N while I moved out. I learned that N was weeping to another friend that I had a boyfriend & that I had brought him to the house -- and N wept about his love for me. That friend to whom he wept had no idea that he had another woman living in the house at that same moment! N is jealous that I might have a boyfriend when HE is living with the love of his love whom he wants to marry (so he tells her). Trust me. If your guy is an N or even a psychopath (like mine) -- you have no idea the layer-upon-layer of deceit they operate. Mine is a highly educated, very successful man. Nobody could believe that almost everything he says on a "personal" level is a manufactured mythology designed to extract that which he wants. With intimate partners, he's interested in money, sex, & domestic services (household & secretarial). But at work, and in his professional life, everybody thinks he is just so affable, smart, and kind. Sorry to write so much. Sometimes it's only in the details that one can understand how manipulative these guys are. What lenghts they will go to keep you on the back burner so as to come back & extract more from you. And, all this in the name of love. Believe me, when a man loves a woman -- he does everything he can to make her happy. When we love, the other comes first. If he loves, how can he possibly NOT have time to be with the object of his love? Makes no sense.
Jan 27 - 9PM (Reply to #21)
michele115 (not verified)
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Dear Narc...

he will text or IM me and say he misses me and that he has NOT let me go. Dear Narc, I've noted that you miss me and you have not let me go...so allow me the honors... GOODBYE!
Jan 27 - 10PM (Reply to #22)
kla2000
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Michele115

LOVE IT! Ha Ha! I must do that! : )
Jan 27 - 9PM (Reply to #20)
gettinbetter
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translation: I need you for

translation: I need you for back up supply in case things with the new chic dont work out. Im sorry but that is how they think. Its hurtful but its the truth. I guarantee you he is with someonelse he just needs you to stick around in case
Jan 27 - 9PM
Hunter
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Yes, Hard to believe, isn't

Yes, Hard to believe, isn't it? That's why we are all here. Its true insanity. INSANITY thats what it is. We are all here because we were abused you were abused. The Men are MAster Manipulaters Now you get to be here with us. The only way to move forward is to Go No Contact. You must do this. If you dont you wll continue to feel pain. Be Strong and listen and read here. Idealk
Jan 27 - 9PM (Reply to #16)
kla2000
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Thank you

Thank you idealk for welcoming me. I appreciate this site and the support i have already received from everyone. You said it perfectly....INSANITY! My human mind cannot seem to comprehend that another human can use someone with no attachment. CRAZY!
Jan 28 - 7AM (Reply to #17)
Hunter
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KLA2000

Oh Its Crazy alright, Be glad you found this site. Without it I might still be staring at the TV on the couch. Listen to us, Everyone here is at a different stage of recovery. You are just at the begining. Be strong and dont feed this guy anything. Its the only way YOU will get better and move on. Read everything here. You will see a pattern. My Favorite saying DELETE,DELETE,DELETE Idealk
Jan 27 - 8PM
Briseis
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You posted yesterday: I WANT

You posted yesterday: I WANT REVENGE on this guy for the way he manipulated and used me. The love i felt for him is hatred at this point. He is now giving me the silent treatment and punishing me...ugh! Has anyone ever wanted to seek revenge on their ex-narc?. If yes, what did you do? I do not want to simply ignore him...i want to make him pay for hurting me. Why don't YOU break up with HIM? Why does he seem to have all the power, the decision making in this relationship? What about you?
Jan 27 - 9PM (Reply to #13)
kla2000
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Hi Briseis

You asked me "why don't I break it off with him"? That is the million dollar question! The only thing that makes sense to me is that I still hold on to the hope that he will return to the man I first met. I cannot seem to comprehend how he completely changed. I guess I am in denial. I also feel badly for him that somewhere in his development he became a Narcissist. I know my reasoning may sound odd, but it's what I struggle with. Yuck!
Jan 28 - 12AM (Reply to #14)
prettypeeved
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That was something I got stuck with for a while

See http://www.vainencounters.com/forum/2011/01/10/sticking-points
Jan 27 - 8PM
kla2000
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I suppose I haven't been

I suppose I haven't been able to make the break from him because I just CANNOT believe this is the same guy I met 2 years ago. He pursued me like no other man has done. He was so attentive, so funny, so charming. I have no idea what happened!! How can someone do a complete turnaround??
Jan 27 - 7PM
Amazed
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He is "breaking up with you"

That is "your" terminology. For him, it means he is done using you. They don't have relationships with people. Not even their own family, or career. Not worth even thinking about. Leave it alone, seperate totally.
Jan 27 - 7PM
michele115 (not verified)
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I'm reading your question

And it seems that if you're here, you must suspect. I don't know how much you know about Narcissim...but whether he is or not, the issue is YOU. So, I understand you are in a relationship...but somtimes great wisdom is gained in simplicity...take my suffering and gain from it... Let me pose this question instead...you say it's been three months, he's putting you on the back burner, silent treatment etc...why haven't YOU put the brakes on it? Why does he have to be the one to do it? And this question is for the purpose of SELF reflection...not to minimize, or ridicule you...
Jan 27 - 7PM
Hunter
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Silent Treatment

Hi Welcome to the ride. Honey you first need to understand this is a disturbed individual. What you just described is what happen to me play by play. Nice, Isn't it? He is done with you, He is not angry with you he cant feel. They Way I see it is they are the walking dead. A shell with arms and legs. You did nothing wrong. You just ran into the wrong person.Yes you are getting the silent treatment. Do Not call him anymore.
Jan 27 - 7PM
Bodhi
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LOL

Yeah, I dunno... my ex-narc just treated me worse & worse until I finally did the dirty work. Afterwards he told me how relieved he was to be out of the relationship. I never understood why he didn't just break up with me if he wanted to so badly.
Jan 27 - 5PM
onwithmylife
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kla 2000

what fun to play with your mind, YOU be the one to have the last laugh and go no contact for good. why contact the idiot, what for??what you know what he is, a non human, do not let him string you along, BE STRONG. If you want to be strung along for 15 years, like I was, then go for it!!!!
Jan 27 - 5PM
agnesmurphy17
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Back Burner

You're on the back burner. Obviously he's got new supply & doesn't need you. One day he may be there. Acting as if noting ever happened. Or with some sob story about having been busy. Or some other story. My dear, he hasn't called in three months. He's just not that into you. It's over. Don't let him come back. Even 'normal' guys never really like to terminate a relationship -- they always hope to keep a wedge open for more friendly sex. Women always want clarity. We're exclusive, engaged, married, & having a family. Guys . . . generally like the edges fuzzy for as long as possible.
Jan 28 - 7AM (Reply to #5)
venuslovedpluto
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Agnes-

Lol! Even "normal" guys rofl... in quotes...priceless
Jan 27 - 5PM
finallyletgo
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i think its because the dont

i think its because the dont care and are avoiding have to deal wiht us while we are trying to ask them something or get something from them..also they are busy with other sources of supply at the moment...i think n's avoid you when they simply dont need you or you represent someone who will question them, ask for something or even work through a disagreement. they dont care about giving us understanding and closure..if you aske for anything they will not give it to you. its all about control, whether they realize it or not...the things he is saying i think are excuses, mine had a milliomn to avoid me when he didnt need me or i wanted to work something out or get an answer. he doesnt want to official break up because he wont be able to use you when he feels like it as easily..exn would always drive me to th ebrink till i either did it or he would make up some big thing he was going trhough, or God or omsething as to why he needs time to himlsef...they are so selfish and its never the truth, the excuses and reasons they make is for you to just leave them alone for now and for you to focus on the excuses rather then what you initially were trying to get from them..and yes im sure sympathy as well ...you will never get anything from them that is real..so its best to not even try to contact them..i did for so long and it got me nowhere.sorry tha tyou have to deal with this , i know its so confusing and annoying
Jan 28 - 7AM (Reply to #2)
venuslovedpluto
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I could be completely wrong...

...but I think it's more simple than that. Mind if I use an analogy? You describe these guys as junkies for the supply right? If I like cocaine and my dealer becomes a pain in my ass, often doesn't answer his phone or screws up my order, you bet I'm gonna look for another salesman. But hell no, I am not gonna tell this first dealer to get lost because what if my new dealer flakes out or disappears? But imagine these two guys live in the same neighborhood....just for the sake of protecting my own ass from making anyone mad and possibly depriving myself of my coke entirely, I'm gonna try and keep my dealings with these two guys as separate as possible. Try and make sure neither ever sees me with the other, and make like everything's cool while I optimize my situation here. I'm not really "done" with the first one, I'm just always looking for the ideal way to get what I need.
Jan 28 - 8AM (Reply to #3)
kla2000
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Your analogy makes PERFECT

Your analogy makes PERFECT sense. Thank you!