When even those who love you don't get it?

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#1 Aug 20 - 11AM
lady_in_dubai
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When even those who love you don't get it?

Hey people,

I'm a bit of a mess right now. I got the courage to leave the relationship, have flown back to my country and now I wonder if it's best to have stayed where I was.

People mean well but when I hear things like, grow up and take personal responsibilty, I told you so, you have a victim mentality, be an adult, it's all about you isn't it... you feel very hurt. Even jokes about how stupid I was to be with him cut me to the core at the moment.

My mum is going through some mental health issues and can't seem to handle the situation, it's making her angry and frustrated at me. I didn't know she was like that until I got here. She might be having some kind of breakdown. She can't understand why I stayed with him, no-one can so they can't understand why I'm not jumping up and down with joy to be rid of him. She sees me checking my phone and gets angry. I know I have to move on, but sometimes we do things like that as we come out of a relationship. It doesn't mean I will contact him. It's been 10 days no contact and I'm proud of that.

I don't want to become bitter. what should I do? Is it better to keep it to yourself sometimes? Especially if those you ran to are going through tough times themselves. I think it's making my mum sick to hear about it. Does anyone have a similar situation?

Aug 22 - 6AM
lady_in_dubai
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Learning discretion

Thanks for the replies, they were really helpful. I do wonder what women did before this site was available. It is a godsend. Wisening up fast to the realities of the situation and what has to happen if I don't want him to break my spirit. Going to go back to the middle east in a few days, very scared but I have to prove it to myself that I can survive the evil done to me. I have counselling in place, a psychiatrist and doctors to help over there so I think I will be ok. Actually, I know I will be ok.
Aug 22 - 9AM (Reply to #10)
quietude (not verified)
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friends & family

Very few people I know have the gist of what happened to me. They feel badly, but in no way really understand the depth of this issue. Not only that, but I think it's uncomfortable for them 'not' to get it, so you can only discuss it so much. I don't talk about it anymore, except the occasional reference. You just don't get the validation you need. I find I feel like a blabbering idiot after my attempts at it. That' not good for my healing, so I just stick to support groups & reading.
Aug 20 - 12PM
dolce (not verified)
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Hi

I understand everything you wrote in your post. What I've learned is to try to limit all my feelings and thoughts in a safe atmosphere..like counselling, support groups, and those people who really want to know and can handle it. It adds more emotional pain when those close to you don't understand or seem frustrated with me. My Aunt says "put your big girl panties on and get on with your life!!". Or some say "another failed relationship? we cant help you" (implying that I don't deserve help) My mother is so caring that she will call and listen to my feelings everynight, but she is elderly and gets tired and exasperated by it, so I let up. I love her so much. My advice is to keep processing what happened to you and what your life will be. But do it where you feel safe and listened to. Hope this helped :)
Aug 24 - 9AM (Reply to #7)
survived (not verified)
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wondering

if i survived why do i still need to talk about it cos i feel very low today and i feel his betrayal more cos he thinks he won but then so does she she has been phoning my kids for last 5 weeks but this time all i think is you sad old woman you want me now cos ur old and ill no other reason
Aug 24 - 2PM (Reply to #8)
Barbara (not verified)
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survived

you will need to talk about it for a LOOOONG time to detox yourself. Are you in therapy? If not GET into therapy. And NO CONTACT with her. I had to go NC with my NarcMother many times. NC with your kids either. Change your number if you have to. Read: http://narcissists-suck.blogspot.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~ CLICK HERE: Articles & information for Victims - Updated Daily "As soon as you feel that crazy sense of walking on eggshells, fending off N-rage, stop. Walk away." - Dr. M. Beck
Aug 20 - 12PM
GhostBuster
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It's tough because you need

It's tough because you need someone or a few close people who you can really confide in and get comfort. I'm sorry your mom's going through something of her own and can't do that for you. My advice is to not share too much with a lot of people. Just try to find a couple confidants that you trust and can compassionately comfort you without making judgemental, dismissive or hurtful statements. I think that can be just as destructive to your psyche as not having people to confide in. I don't have many people in my life I can really share with. Really, the only person who knows everything is my 80 year old aunt who tries to understand, but she's pretty old school, "don't be a victim", the best revenge is to be happy type. But as I've really delved into the details with her, she's coming to understand what I went through. And I've really taken the time to share with her the things I've learned about narcissism and relate it back to my experiences with my Ns. She never says anything dismissive or hurtful to me anymore about the N I left 8 months ago and she doesn't question why it's still affecting me so. However, her son (my cousin) came over a week ago and we were talking about it and said "still obsessing about that, huh?" But you know what, I just brushed it off. I know what I know and people who don't know are just going to fall back on what they think. As wrong as their thinking is. So, as everyone says, come here often. Get your thoughts out and find comfort here. Especially, if you can't get the kind of comfort and understanding you need somewhere else. This site is a God send.
Aug 20 - 12PM
GhostBuster
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It's tough because you need

It's tough because you need someone or a few close people who you can really confide in and get comfort. I'm sorry your mom's going through something of her own and can't do that for you. My advice is to not share too much with a lot of people. Just try to find a couple confidants that you trust and can compassionately comfort you without making judgemental, dismissive or hurtful statements. I think that can be just as destructive to your psyche as not having people to confide in. I don't have many people in my life I can really share with. Really, the only person who knows everything is my 80 year old aunt who tries to understand, but she's pretty old school, "don't be a victim", the best revenge is to be happy type. But as I've really delved into the details with her, she's coming to understand what I went through. And I've really taken the time to share with her the things I've learned about narcissism and relate it back to my experiences with my Ns. She never says anything dismissive or hurtful to me anymore about the N I left 8 months ago and she doesn't question why it's still affecting me so. However, her son (my cousin) came over a week ago and we were talking about it and said "still obsessing about that, huh?" But you know what, I just brushed it off. I know what I know and people who don't know are just going to fall back on what they think. As wrong as their thinking is. So, as everyone says, come here often. Get your thoughts out and find comfort here. Especially, if you can't get the kind of comfort and understanding you need somewhere else. This site is a God send.
Aug 20 - 12PM
GhostBuster
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It's tough because you need

It's tough because you need someone or a few close people who you can really confide in and get comfort. I'm sorry your mom's going through something of her own and can't do that for you. My advice is to not share too much with a lot of people. Just try to find a couple confidants that you trust and can compassionately comfort you without making judgemental, dismissive or hurtful statements. I think that can be just as destructive to your psyche as not having people to confide in. I don't have many people in my life I can really share with. Really, the only person who knows everything is my 80 year old aunt who tries to understand, but she's pretty old school, "don't be a victim", the best revenge is to be happy type. But as I've really delved into the details with her, she's coming to understand what I went through. And I've really taken the time to share with her the things I've learned about narcissism and relate it back to my experiences with my Ns. She never says anything dismissive or hurtful to me anymore about the N I left 8 months ago and she doesn't question why it's still affecting me so. However, her son (my cousin) came over a week ago and we were talking about it and said "still obsessing about that, huh?" But you know what, I just brushed it off. I know what I know and people who don't know are just going to fall back on what they think. As wrong as their thinking is. So, as everyone says, come here often. Get your thoughts out and find comfort here. Especially, if you can't get the kind of comfort and understanding you need somewhere else. This site is a God send.
Aug 20 - 12PM
finallydone
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Interesting question

Very thoughtful question you just asked. I"ve spent a lot of time thinking about this myself. For me, at least, I think people cannot possibly understand it unless they've really been through it. If you think about it, so much of what happens that is awful with them depends very much on the context of the entire relationship. The patterns that emerge over time. To recount isolated incidents to others is difficult because sometimes... the incident itself is not really the horrifying part, what's terrible is the amount of times it was replayed over and over again (kind of like movie Groundhogs Day ;0), and sometimes the isolated incident was indeed horrifying. Either way people have one of two reactions: 1. If the incident wasn't that big of deal on its own they really don't get why you're so freaked out; and 2. If it was horrifying that don't have any idea why you would "stay and put up with it." They just don't understand the dynamics of this type of relationship and they can get worn down by us talking about it over and over. They don't know how to help, they don't know what else to say and they want you to just be better and the person that they care about again. They don't necessarily see black eyes and broken bones. You look fine.. why aren't you fine??? Kind of how we look at the narcissist and get completely confused that he looks human, even sometimes acts human... why isn't he HUMAN DAMNIT!!!! Know what I mean? Anyway... I get very lonesome sometimes feeling like I've used all the ears up.. however, I'm kind of lucky. I've gotten to the point where being all by myself with my thoughts and my books on this stuff and surfing the net reading about it or coming here really is helping me more. And in the moments that I really need to talk... I have a few good friends that will let me do just that, and the best one of all has been through a guy like this. Only she was quicker than me and only was with him for a year. But all the patterns were the same.. she thinks her guy was "just less skilled" as she puts it and was over the top really fast making it totally obvious that he was a nutjob. Mine took his time more. Anyway, it has helped me keeping it to myself more often now as long as I feel I'm being productive about it and not just sinking further into depression. That's what I would caution you about. It's easy to feel a little too safe being all alone and not getting in touch with anybody. I'm walking that line a bit... but I do think I'm making a little bit of progress. I don't know if that helps at all.... but I can certainly relate to the feelings you seem to be having by the way you asked your question. Hang in there!
Aug 20 - 2PM (Reply to #2)
Barbara (not verified)
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when family & friends don't or won't understand

http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/07/02/when-your-friends-family-dont-get-it-about-narcissist http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/08/18/information-victim-and-victims-friends http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/04/04/those-who-tell-you-just-get-over-it-or-forgive-forget http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/04/19/why-some-people-cant-just-move-or-get-over-it Print out some of the above & give it to them. Many times people don't want to know and blame the victim. Keep reading through ALL the pages on our MESSAGE BOARD - this gets talked about often. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ CLICK HERE: Articles & information for abuse victims - Updated Daily "Some women can fake an orgasm. But some men can fake an entire relationship!" - Sharon Stone