What do they feel?

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Aug 24 - 4PM
ClusterF
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I had a guy try to pick me up a week ago

and pretty soon the words coming out of his mouth were how he's a bad person, a f*ck up etc. In my experience, except for the one complete psychopath (who just said one time that he was crazy), this is a hook to see if you will tell them they aren't these things. My response this time was, "OK, thanks for the heads-up." and went back to reading my book and doing my crossword puzzle. I don't think they reflect at all. That would mean they had a conscience. They might *know* that they are these things but remorse? No. Guilt? Nah. They might be jealous of other people but have no idea why they don't deserve to be every bit as successful and happy as others who do it the proper way.
Aug 24 - 4PM (Reply to #11)
betty2020
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Yep and its a great tool for

Yep and its a great tool for them to measure the type of personality you are. If you the caretaker your easy prey....He saw he wasnt going to get far with you.. Good job Cluster!!!!! only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Aug 24 - 4PM
betty2020
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They absolutely do deal with

They absolutely do deal with guilt and depression. But not like we do. We feel guilt b/c when we hurt someone and it pains us to think that we have injured them. We dont like to hurt people. We dont exploit people for personal gain because it would injure them and create grief for another fellow human. But, For a Narcissist they dont feel guilt like we do. They do not feel bad for the act itself but they feel bad that they have been caught at what they have done wrong. Your natural response when someone approach you that is offended or hurt by you is to apologize and console them. Make right the wrongs (your consoling THEM). Not the Narc. The natural response for a Narc when they are approached by someone the they have hurt or offended is to first; defend their actions (if it works), second; project blame on the other party (if it works) and last but not least if all else fails loath in self pity (this usually works if your unaware of what Narcissism is). Dont forget they are great mimickers. Depression, highs and lows are part of the illness. They are not emotionally stable and this does cause much internal chaos, Creating bouts of depression, severe mood swings and extreme highs of grandiosity. only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Aug 24 - 5PM (Reply to #7)
imabloke
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Betty.... I think you're right...

I'm not on the right planet am i? Well not theres anyway... I was hoping, maybe...just maybe... This bit... 'Your natural response when someone approach you that is offended or hurt by you is to apologize and console them. Make right the wrongs (your consoling THEM). Not the Narc. The natural response for a Narc when they are approached by someone the they have hurt or offended is to first; defend their actions (if it works), second; project blame on the other party (if it works) and last but not least if all else fails loath in self pity (this usually works if your unaware of what Narcissism is). Dont forget they are great mimickers.' She never consoled me... my brother and sister are extremely ill.. not once did she comfort/console me with this issue. She listened but that was it. It always about them and what makes them look good. Thanks for this.
Aug 24 - 5PM (Reply to #8)
betty2020
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Yes dear, the sad fact is

Yes dear, the sad fact is the it really is all about THEM! Im very sorry to hear about your brother and sister. I know what its like to deal with family tragedy and have no support what so ever from the one you love. It is so cruel and inhuman. Stay close and im sending a little prayer your way for you and your family.. xoxo only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Aug 25 - 3AM (Reply to #9)
imabloke
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Thanks Betty...

Thanks for your kind words and prayers, it means a lot to me... this site and everyone on it has helped me understand, its a process and i'm getting through it. Its hard to believe that some people can be just so inhumane! and the sad fact is we can only accept it. Such a shame (sigh)
Aug 24 - 4PM
awayfromhim
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Here's how I look at it. I

Here's how I look at it. I asked my therapist once whether or not the N had even just a little bit of remorse for the abuse he inflicted or did he have regrets for losing me, etc. Of course, none of these behaviors were apparent in the N. I was just wondering if maybe…maybe… It was simply my continued quest to try and apply humanity to an N. Can't do it. She had responded that the lack of empathy runs quite a large gamut of behaviors. Thus, in my case with the N: Guilt - did not have it. One can only feel guilt if there is something to feel guilty for or have a sense of remorse for a bad deed done to someone else. Usually, an apology comes from someone who feels guilt or remorse. Never got one from the N. How can an N feel guilt when, in their minds, the have done nothing wrong? Ever tell an N they did something that wasn't wonderful? I did. Bad move. Depression - sure, I think they feel this, rarely, but only when someone has not done as they like and it can, in my case, turn into rage. Any "act" of depression, as in the poor-me's etc. is simply a manipulation to gather something they want. BS/Lies - remember, those things to an N are truths. The N would look me right in the face, completely sure of himself, totally in agreement with the lie he would be spewing out of his mouth. It was incredible. Just my two cents.
Aug 25 - 6PM (Reply to #5)
Playedwithfire
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that is my ex down to a T.

that is my ex down to a T. He did the lying and act of depresion-poor me to his first gf when we split the first time, then to me a year ago and al'bet he did the same this time too to the new gf. I think he lies so much at the beginning he starts to believe it himself. Playedwithfire

Playedwithfire

Aug 24 - 4PM
ShaynasMommy
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imabloke.

they envy anyone with a SOUL. That's pretty much everybody they meet, past present and future. That crying bit she did was just really desperate and pathetic (not to mention obvious) way to get your adoration. everything is about supply, supply, supply......
Aug 24 - 5PM (Reply to #3)
Susan32
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Humans in general

I think they envy HUMANS. Dr. Robert Hare said psychopaths targeted him because he was HUMAN--not because of any special characteristics. During my freshman year,a classmate explained the ex-Psych professor's bullying, saying, "He's punishing you for being human." The ex-P bullied me cruelly-DURING CLASS- after my grandfather died. Since NOBODY had treated me that way-not even my Narc grandmother-it was shocking. The ex-P professor did the push/pull, you name it. I think Narcissists are capable of feeling SOME remorse, SOME shame. Psychopaths are incapable of remorse and shame. The ex-Psych professor (and this was my freshman year) had no qualms about having spread lies about me, destroying a nascent friendship between my lab partner and I... he really had no guilt, no shame either. He wasn't ashamed,either.
Aug 24 - 5PM (Reply to #2)
cluelessuntilnow
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soulless

My exN recent said to me that sometimes he wonders if he has a soul. I don't think this is self pity (he knows that does not work with me) I think it was just plain honesty.