The way many of you are treating Lisa is appalling.....

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#1 Jun 15 - 6PM
Monica
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The way many of you are treating Lisa is appalling.....

Whether or not you agree with the direction Lisa is taking with HER website, whether or not you would prefer to follow Barbara or stay here on LISA's website...all of us have the freedom and the choice to leave this website and go elsewhere or nowhere at all. But to abuse Lisa the way some of you have been, to insult her, to bash her, to say horrible things to her and make accusations...it is just incomprehensible that these things are coming from victims of N/P's...from those who have suffered all those things at the hands of an abuser.

This is all just so sad...and unnecessary. This is a free will website. We are all free to stay...or free to leave.

Lisa has stated that she will take down this site if this continues. I don't blame her one bit. No one should have to put up with this in their own house...the house they built and pay for.

Jun 18 - 4PM
enoughalready
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well

Since everyone seems to have an opinion about all the drama, I feel I must put my 2 cents in and say what's on my mind. I came to this board after I read Lisa's book. It was a great book. I felt as I wasn't alone in this problem I had w/ XN. I joined this website as I felt we shared a common problem. I felt comforted by various members when I was in my hurting stage. I relied on several women for uplifting comments etc. Though I felt Barbara was blunt in her replies, I knew she would give support somehow. Though she was strict and to the point, it did give me some triggers- I felt alittle scared and reprimanded..... For hurting? When others give support to one another, a bond is somewhat formed. And just b/c I felt sad from several members departure, doesn't mean I chose their way of thinking. I did feel as if it was "mutiny of the bounty". It was between certain members and Lisa and it should have been private. If a certain member had an issue w/ the moderator or website owner, then she should have called or emailed her. But to try to persuade others in her thinking process was totally out of line and disrespectful. I do not know Lisa at all, but I did enjoy her book and have read a lot her blogs. I do agree that members have a right to speak their mind, but not at the cost of someone else's feelings. We are here to support one another as we share something (not good) in common. I am grateful for this website and for Lisa providing it for us to use. Let's' be kind to one another:-)
Jun 15 - 9PM
Lisa E. Scott
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Thank you

Thank you, Monica and others for your support. It means a lot to me. I will not shut the site down, but my family is begging me to do so as it has caused a lot of strife in my life lately. I cannot risk losing my job again, which means I cannot moderate the boards during the day and post articles the way Barbara did. Like I said, if someone is interested in being a moderator, let me know. As one of you pointed out, I don't think we necessarily need a babysitter. I think we've come too far to let some drama mamas ruin things for us. I'm sorry if I sounded mad in my "Really?" post, but I am mad. I am not afraid to admit it. I am mad and I had to speak my mind. I'm sure I'll get criticized for it, but I'm sick of tip-toeing around this whole thing. I had to say my peace. I believe those who leave as a result of my comments were not meant to be here in the first place. As I said, thank you for the support, but no more, k? My hope is that we can put an end to all the noise and drama on this board tonight. It is not helping anyone. All the people I reached at the book fair this weekend have probably already left the site after observing all the in-fighting. We lost a real opportunity to connect with some women that need some help. I gave away a lot of books over the weekend and reached a lot of people who were very interested in this topic. Let's remember why we're all here. We share a common bond. No one can understand what it's like to love a narcissist unless they have been through it themselves. We could talk until we're blue in the face to family and friends about it, but they will never get it. This is a place where we can be understood immediately without having to explain it all. We can just come here and relate and be heard and understood. Let's remember that's why we're here and get back to supporting one another! Hugs, Lisa
Jun 15 - 7PM
smileyfacepr
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well

I cant be grateful enought o Lisa for this forum and Im not going anywhere and I hope she does not shut down the site cause of this crap..she can ban anyone she feels she needs to and whoever doesnt like it can leave on their own. I suppoert Lisa 100%, this site has also helped me survive the last couple of mnths! Hugs to all

smileyfacepr

Jun 15 - 6PM
sarahb
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thanks Monica

Amen, Monica. I agree.
Jun 15 - 6PM
Steph
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I've stated my opinions on

I've stated my opinions on this in the other thread. I totally agree with you. It's appalling and embarrassing that so many grown women are acting so completely immature. To everyone that dislikes Lisa....why don't you go elsewhere! I feel so angry I am literally shaking as I write this.
Jun 15 - 7PM (Reply to #10)
Monica
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Staying Strong 78...

I saw your post after I posted mine. They must have been posted at about the same time. I am mostly sad and bewildered about what is going on here. You wrote that you were shaking. I was crying. I would be quite lost without the support of this forum. I drew so much strength and encouragement from all the other members. And it made me feel not so alone because everyone here has been through the same thing. And people who have not been through it do not understand. I feel especially bad for new members, still very new to NC or still trying to break away from their N/P, that may have come here for support and information and instead found insults, bashing and plain old meanness. What a terrible thing for them to experience at an already awful time in their lives.
Jun 15 - 7PM (Reply to #11)
Steph
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Monica

I was thinking the same thing....about the new members. Imagine feeling overwhelmed and maybe even suicidal and coming on here for support only to read stuff like this. There is alot of contradictions I think. Lisa was bashed for getting a certification in SR.....and wasn't going to apply it to this site but start a new one. Well, those that don't agree with SR don't have to join her new site. Then there is all this talk that Lisa's certification doesn't qualify her to deal with high risk populations ie) suicidal individuals.....which I agree with, but I don't think Lisa was using her SR certification to try and replace a psychiatrist/psychologist Furthermore, and not to minimize Barbara because I respect her and think she's brilliant, but her qualifications are only a certificate as well.....and no one had a problem with her helping others. Anyways, now I'm rambling. Just thinking lots and feeling really bad for what's happening here...again. I am so happy you posted a thread in Lisa's defense:)
Jun 15 - 7PM (Reply to #2)
Jaded
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Oh my

For msyelf I was jsut responding to LIsa herself in her long post when she was describing how bad she felt and asked what she should do. She asked. I told her she should take care of hersel cause she writes about her struggles. I don;t not like her I was jsut tryign to be honest like I would with a friend who asks what she should do when having a hard time. Take care of yourslef first that was my advice. Is this bad advice? I do not dislike Lisa at all.
Jun 15 - 7PM (Reply to #5)
Jessika (not verified)
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Ladies

if you look at the times listed on the responses... everything was fairly pleasant and calm... just a bunch of ladies missing Barbara. I think the tone changed when Lisa made her post. A few were a bit startled by it bc she was obviously irritated, that's all and then it shifted to us responding to her post instead. Take a look at the times.... you'll see. No one dislikes her ..... xoxoxo Jessika
Jun 15 - 11PM (Reply to #9)
Juicy Fruit
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Yes Jessika

You would make a wonderful moderator. Cause you have lots of real knowledge and seem to be able to keep a cool head. Even when some of these women get so touchy about every little thing someone says! At leaset the other woman didnt get mad unless someone wasnt listening and ketp falleng back in the same trap with there n. she didn't Take everey thing so personaly
Jun 15 - 7PM (Reply to #8)
Jaded
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Hi Jessika

You are so nice and know so much and pick things up well that are happening. Lisa asked if someone wanted to moderate and if she';s asking I don't think it should be someone who does not have special knowledge. Like I could not do it lol. God what a mess that would be! But aren;t you a pyschologist? Could you do it if Barbra won't come back and Lisa says she cannot moderate cuase of all hertroubles she talked about? I don't think it's enough for us all to just support each other. I think it needs someone in charge. After a while it will be all new people and then how would they know how to support each other as they don't knwo all thefacts like Barbra did. But you know a lot and you did that workshop thing with sondra brown.
Jun 15 - 7PM (Reply to #6)
Steph
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Actually.....the original

Actually.....the original post "guess i don't agree" was NOT just about missing barbara. It was said in there that Lisa leaving the board without a moderator is "irresponsible" and also the woman that wrote the post stated she couldn't help but think that Lisa has this forum because there is something in in for HER. I think Lisa was defending herself, yet again, with that.
Jun 15 - 8PM (Reply to #7)
better off
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Apparently Lisa is now in

Apparently Lisa is now in the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" position here. She was criticized and accused of using the board to benefit herself, and when she gave the details of her situation to show that she's not, she's accused of not having it together enough to be doing this. And now she's not supposed to be "agitated" when she's falsely accused and having to defend herself over these things. What an amazing double standard being applied here. I'm also appalled that people are complaining that the board is somehow not supportive enough of members, but should NOT be supportive of the person who started it. I hope she doesn't take down the board but I wouldn't blame her if she did.
Jun 15 - 7PM (Reply to #3)
Juicy Fruit
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Me neither

I don't dislike Lisa. I was just saying what I think. I thought this was a discussion board. Not an agreement board.
Jun 15 - 8PM (Reply to #4)
windycitygirl
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appalling is too mild

I am beginning to believe that some of the ladies on this site are a bit like the narcs in their life...i believe that we owe a debt of gratitude to Lisa for continuing to put up with all the negative bad mouthing that has been going on...just what IS she supposed to do about Barbara...Barbara had no problem laying someone out if she didn't agree with what they had said... In my opinion Barbara was way too abrasive to some of the struggling members...not all of us are in the same spot and what some are in need of a HUG instead of drill sargent