Was my father a narcissist?

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#1 Sep 9 - 4PM
time_to_move_on
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Was my father a narcissist?

Hello,

I'm new here and wanted to ask a question (I will tell my story at some point on the other board if that's okay).
I have been out with 2 people that I think were narcissists. Just left one recently, obviously I need to work on myself and stay away from them in the future.
But one thing I was pondering, my father died when I was a kid, but I'm fairly sure he was a narcissist. He was an alcoholic, violent to my mother. I always got the feeling he didn't really love me. And my mother told me some strange things. Once, my dad was seeing another woman, who went around town saying that my father was going to leave his wife (e.g my mum) and marry her. My mother asked him about this, and all my father said was "Do you really think I'd be with a woman that would go out with a married man?". My mother was half-laughing in a disgusted way as she told me this.
It doesn't really matter, and I know I'll never know for definite however I'm curious. He was also very charming and charismatic, people who didn't actually live with him often seemed to praised his generousity, warmth etc. He did many awful things over the years, including cashing in his life insurance before he died (probably to gamble with) and leaving us penniless.
I'm just trying to fit some pieces together on my upbringing.

Thanks.

Sep 9 - 6PM
Barbara (not verified)
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hard to say or know for sure

hard to say... he could have been a narcissist, a sociopath or schizotypal. There's a lot of overlap. http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com/2008/09/abusive-narcissistic-parents.html http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com/2006/12/adult-children-of-narcissistic-parents.html http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com/2006/08/trapped-in-mirror-adult-children-of.html **** Support group for Adult Children of Narcissists: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Adult-ChildrenOFNarcissits/ Get into therapy and talk it out. Please. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ CLICK HERE: Articles & information for Narc Victims - Updated Daily "As soon as you feel that crazy sense of walking on eggshells, fending off N-rage, stop. Walk away." - Dr. M. Beck
Sep 9 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
time_to_move_on
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thanks... I will do

Yes, I think you are right (about the therapy). I spent several years in therapy talking about my co-dependent, fantasist mother. Which has really helped. A lot. We even had a fairly good relationship before she died. But I thought because my father had died when I was a kid I'd "kind of gotten over it". But after the last experience with someone who was a cross between my passive-aggressive mum and my dad... I think I need more assistance. Will read the articles, cheers.
Sep 10 - 12AM (Reply to #3)
James (not verified)
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Great site!

If you're reading this because of problems with someone you know now, the chances are excellent that one or both of your parents was a narcissist. Narcissists are so much trouble that only people with special prior training (i.e., who were raised by narcissists) get seriously involved with them. Sometimes narcissists' children become narcissists, too, but this is by no means inevitable, provided stable love was given by someone, such as the non-narcissist parent or grandparents. Beyond that, a happy marriage will heal many old wounds for the narcissist's child. But, even though children of narcissists don't automatically become narcissists themselves and can survive with enough intact psychically to lead happy and productive lives away from their narcissistic parents, because we all love our parents whether they can love us back or not, children of narcissists are kind of bent -- "You can't get blood out of a stone," but children of narcissists keep trying, as if by bonding with new narcissists we could somehow cure our narcissistic parents by finding the key to their heart. Thus, we've been trained to keep loving people who can't love us back, and we will often tolerate or actively work to maintain connections with narcissistic individuals whom others, lacking our special training, find alienating and repellent from first contact, setting ourselves up to be hurt yet again in the same old way. Once narcissists know that you care for them, they'll suck you dry -- demand all your time, be more work than a newborn babe -- and they'll test your love by outrageous demands and power moves. In their world, love is a weakness and saying "I love you" is asking to be hurt, so be careful: they'll hurt you out of a sort of sacred duty. They can't or won't trust, so they will test your total devotion. If you won't submit to their tyranny, then you will be discarded as "no good," "a waste of time," "you don't really love me or you'd do whatever I ask," "I give up on you." (Note: In many instances, narcissists' demands are not only outrageous but also impossible to fulfill even if you want to please them. Plus if you actually want to do what they want you to do, that would be too much like sharing, so they won't want it anymore.) If you've had a narcissist for a parent, you are probably not afraid of dying and going to hell -- you have lived hell on Earth. Narcissists cannot be satisfied and do a tremendous amount of damage to their children and partners in their relentless demand for a perfect outer appearance to reflect the perfect inner image that obsesses them. Kyrie eleison. http://dslweb.nwnexus.com/jmashmun/npd/howto.html
Sep 10 - 9AM (Reply to #4)
GhostBuster
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Wow

This seems so spot on to my own situation...growing up with (likely) an N father. My father is deceased also, so I can only retrace events of my childhood through my own lens and make an assumption. But I'm pretty sure he was... Thanks James. Great post