The Successful Pathological’s Evil Twin: The Parasite (I read often)

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#1 Jun 24 - 3PM
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The Successful Pathological’s Evil Twin: The Parasite (I read often)

Great Read: http://saferelationshipsmagazine.com/the-successful-pathologicals-evil-t... (I reread this often!)

The Successful Pathological’s Evil Twin: The Parasite

June 7, 2011 by kboisvert
Filed under Sandra Says (Column)

Last week we looked at The Successful Pathological and how he flies in under the radar while women are looking at his success and missing the red flags about his character or behavior. Women can get side tracked by his degree, a noble career like a doctor or blinded by his business bling.The Italian-made shoes aren’t the only thing that can be a loafer! (LOL!!)

Another form of pathology produces what we call ‘parasitic’ behavior which means, like a tick, they live off of others. In one of the pathological disorders,
sometimes they are underachievers and because they need gobs of financial assistance. But not always! Sometimes they AREN’t underemployed at all. In fact, in some of the pathological disorders they are successful AND parasitic.

Wealthy AND parasitic have all the radar busting combination’s to come gliding in under her relationship radar. Wealthy pathological’s may be as parasitic as the poor ones but are usually less identified. It’s not that the wealthy ones ‘need’ the housing assistance by living with you–it’s that they are ‘able’ to get you to let them. It’s a power game and when you say yes, he wins. It’s a ridiculous game that most women don’t even pay attention to in the beginning until it begins to happen over and over again. Most women don’t care about power struggles. But not him because it’s his source of entertainment.

Parasites can latch on for the ride, the entertainment, or to drain you dry. The ‘financially challenged’ ones either try to hide it that they are broke and underemployed until they are already living off of you OR they get in by playing the pity trump card. He just needs a ‘little time to get on his feet.’ Many of them appear to have “the worst luck” when it comes to getting or keeping a good job or manages (according to him) to find horrible bosses. In any case, it’s never his fault, and a new potential turn of events is ‘just around the corner’ if you will just wait it out with him.

The interesting thing about the parasitic life is that it is has more to do with conning than it does any legitimate need. The proof is that even the wealthy ones play the same game.

For the overt parasite, a red flag for women should be guys that always are living with someone else including family. Of course they have a ‘good’ reason usually associated with what appears to be ‘helping others’ (elderly parents, helping pay the rent of his single-mom sister, etc.).

Highly suspicious would be that you never see where they live or how they live. Why? That great condo with the roof deck is really a room in someone’s mobile home. Or there’s a wife and three kids at this house, which are his. Or his house is really a meth lab. Or pick a reason…. The bottom line is there is a reason why you don’t see it and it normally has to do with living different (or off others) that he hasn’t quite disclosed to you.

The big flag the size of the one on the White House would be they want to move in or marry quickly. Is it because they are so into you? Nope. Its because
he wants to betroath your check book before you can verify his income, his job status, his debt load or anything else. In a blink of an eye you are drinking
rum drinks with umbrellas in the Bahamas (oh, and did I mention, on your credit card?)

A flashing billboard would be when they ask you to invest in his potential (and your love bundle!) by going into business with him or helping him finance your ‘rest of your life together’ business. Here’s a clue: If he’s over 28 years old and not living any part of his potential…there’s a reason and it’s usually pathology or addiction or both. If you are over 30, don’t fall in love with anyone’s potential. Either they got the goods or they don’t. And if they don’t, there’s a reason bigger than that sad empathy-producing story they have.

The more covert parasite, if he’s a wealthy pathological story line might be he is ‘giving you an opportunity to invest in his business’ to make some of that return capital that you see him living off of. He’s successful–he must be doing something right? Do you remember Bernie Madoff?

Pete the Parasite also sometimes needs money for their ailing mother, to send out of the country to relatives, or to cover the costs of his children that the psycho-wife is not doing with his paid child support. (Uh, huh….)

If these tactics and lines didn’t work, they wouldn’t use them and I wouldn’t know them. Parasites need hosts.The body of where a parasite lands (like a tick on a dog) is called ‘the host.’ Here’s a time where being a BAD HOST is a good thing!

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Jun 25 - 1PM
ValiditySeeker
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Mine

We were both college students when we met. He was planning to go into medicine and would make frequent comments about how much debt medical students rack up in student loans. He would say that "they" (medical school loan officers) expect the spouse of the student to help out the student financially so there isn't so much upon graduation. That isn't true. The loan officers love more and debt because it means more profits for them. Plus, not all med students are married. Plus, for the ones who are married , it's not atypical for the spouse to be a woman who is financially dependent on the man and his student loans. It's probably not smart but it happens all the time. Short Dick Man would often lament at the amount of debt he would face and frequently ask if I had declared a major yet or if I thought I would make any money. I think he saw getting married to a woman with a good job as a way to keep his student loan debts low. Fortunately for me, I was undecided on a major and often lamented that I didn't see how I could get a decent job during the recession without previous job skills. I think this is part of the reason I was dumped after graduation: I only found a retail position and had to start looking at graduate school as a way to increase my income potential. He commented on the terror of TWO spouses with student loans more than once! As I was applying to grad school, I got dumped. He never said it was a lack of money, just that I wasnt good enough for him. I never thought I'd day it, but thank God I didn't get a good job after college! Thank God for the recession! Otherwise, he might have proposed and let me pay all the living expenses plus part of his tuition while we were married. And marriage to him would have been horrifying!
Jun 24 - 6PM
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Thanks for posting this! The

Thanks for posting this! The N won't stop bragging that his new woman is the daughter of a Vegas plastic surgeon, therefore very well-off. He's 10 years older than she is, and yet SHE is paying for their vacations and weekend outings and dinners. Even worse is that he isn't the slightest bit ashamed that he has a girl 10 years younger than him paying for him. She must be a sucker!
Jun 24 - 6PM
onwithmylife
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mine was

desperate for my money to buy a house he wanted so badly, he got one on his own after he dumped me,, but at the time did not have the money, he was very conniving and calculating I realize in hindsight
Jun 24 - 5PM
Lobo555
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WinningParasite

CharlieSheenWinning. Homeless. Jobless. Meets a rich woman and marries her after 3 weeks of knowing her. Hmmmmm. . . looks, walks, sounds. . . like???? Wait, I know -- a PARASITE! As Charlie Sheen himself would say, "Duuuuhhhhhhhhh!"
Jun 24 - 8PM (Reply to #6)
SoaperGirl
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I hear you Lobo555 - I'm in the same situation

At least in this case, we know what the OW had that we didn't. But geez, I can't envy her since that seems to be her primary allure for the NARC. When the money is gone, so will he!
Jun 25 - 5AM (Reply to #7)
Lobo555
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Very true!

I don't envy, but I still feel hurt. Does that even make sense? Nothing about this seems to make sense. When the trust fund dries up, so with the narc's libido. NewWinningWife is also willing to be WinningDrunk all the time. So, for CharlieSheenWinning, it will either be when she decides to sober up *or* when she runs out of money to buy booze.
Jun 26 - 4PM (Reply to #8)
Susan32
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It's more about control

I didn't have sex with the ex-Psych prof, for him it was all about CONTROL and MONEY. Someone here said that when sex ends for a Narc, so does their life. Not really. The ex-P was more into CONTROL. He was still hoovering me after his rich curator girlfriend moved in with him. It's not like I was giving him sex or money (I gave him neither) So I wondered what made me so special. What's weird is where the ex-P chose to live;I assume the girlfriend helped him buy a house. I found this out after the D&D. The ex-P's apartment was close to where both he&the girlfriend worked (him at the college, she at the museum down the street from the college) They moved into town. If I hadn't moved, I would've lived within a very short distance from them (awkward-and I did NOT give him my off-campus address,EVER) I remember telling the ex-P I'd be living near downtown... he&the girlfriend moved downtown. They're almost like the vampire couple of Catherine Deneuve&David Bowie in "The Hunger." I'm glad I moved away. I was spared that drama.
Jun 24 - 4PM
Susan32
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Too true!!!!

This brings *CLARITY.* The ex-Psych prof wanted to latch onto me early on... as soon as my grandfather died, he was interested in my $$$ and wanted to marry me right away. He attempted the whirlwind courtship (because it worked for Leo Tolstoy-it only took a week);didn't work, thank goodness, and I NEVER gave him access to my money. One of his favorite literary characters, Nicholas Rostov, marries Princess Maria to pay off his debts. Her $$$ causes him to callously toss aside his childhood sweetheart, the impoverished orphan Sonya, because her money makes her desirable. "If he's over 28"- The ex-P was 32 when I first met him. He hadn't accomplished anything as a philosopher. He still HASN'T. His rich curator girlfriend was swooning about how he was a philosopher- tho he had NOTHING to show for it (because he was 36 at the final D&D) "Guys are living with someone else including family"-It was after the final D&D that I learned that the ex-P's parents had moved in with him to raise his twins. He's pushing 50 now... and his parents are living with him. Yikes.
Jun 24 - 8PM (Reply to #4)
TraumaMamma
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My N

Was a partner in a business in which the owner was killed in a car accident. The widow was struggling and he was living in Chicago and attempting to buy the business. He did contact me on the dating site I was on in October of last year, but I found it too hard to date him and he was too busy trying to get everything done. I told him I wasn't chasing him, or anyone and bid him goodbye. Texts, calls, went unanswered. So, fast foward to this year. Deal goes thru. Multimillion dollar powder coating company. He moves in temporarily with the widow and her son in Dec. He emailed me in April. For some reason, he hasn't bought a house yet. He was spending alot of time at my home, and the widow wanted her son to move in (he is 23) and he needed his room back. He is also employed there and the widow is a part owner in the company too, but does nothing per ex. So, he had to move and suddenly he is at my place all the time, although he did pay 800.00 for an amerisuites studio. He made 500G from Feb to May in profit,(quarter) of which he got half. Plus his base of 120 per year. So, he isn't doing poorly. He can't seem to find one he likes. He is like a kid with ADD looking at boats, motorcycles and other things as well. He did want me to get involved in the business too. Take classes, internet marketing. A girl he went on a couple of dates with is his accountant and her three sons work there. *shudder* Ah, to be free.

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.' --Mary Anne Radmache

Jun 24 - 8PM (Reply to #2)
SoaperGirl
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Looks like I was the impoverished orphan Sonya, Leo took off

Yes, it does bring clarity. Explains why the X-P..ah, my narc found his princess Maria to pay off his debts and provide him with money. When you look at that way Susan, I think I got the better deal despite being a poor orphan! Be gone Leo! With me, he had a certain facade of stability, and someone to take care of him, and show him how to make great love to a woman. I wonder how the OW is enjoying the Narc's ED! hahaha. Damn she's definitely not getting much! When he D&Ded me though, he went to the well too many times. While a lot of people knew he was a worthless jerk, I was blinded by his bling. Oh well, Life goes on and as time moves forward I am appreciating that I dodged a huge bullet, and if the right man comes along, I'll be ready.
Jun 25 - 4PM (Reply to #3)
Susan32
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Sonya didn't get off so lucky

In "War and Peace", Nicholas Rostov strings along Princess Maria&Sonya, even after he's married Maria for her $$$. He keeps Sonya around as a housekeeper&nanny. Nicholas mistreats both... he&Maria "fully appreciate" (quoting Tolstoy) mistreating Sonya, and Nicholas&Maria fight whenever Maria is pregnant, and despite being the father of many kids, Nicholas voices his disgust with infants... when Maria is pregnant. The ex-Psych prof would hint to this aspect of "War and Peace", saying "What if I dumped you for an heiress?" I don't know if the ex-P's girlfriend was an heiress, but she certainly made more $$$ than him. For the ex-P, money meant EVERYTHING. He'd harangue me for volunteering at a local school. Because it didn't pay. He'd say that my parents were paying him to be my friend because they paid my tuition(???) I'm afraid that when the ex-P impregnated his curator girlfriend, he destroyed her career in the process... like the fable of the goose that laid the golden egg.