Still trying to understand -did I have a trauma bond?

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#1 May 10 - 12PM
momoya
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Still trying to understand -did I have a trauma bond?

I am STILL going over things about the N in my mind. The time clock next to my profile name kind of bugs me in that I feel pressured, like I SHOULD be way past him and not still thinking so much about him. (self imposed pressure)

When some of the newbies post after 2 weeks that they want the grief cycle to be over I understand but also say get comfortable, it will be awhile!

The good news is that I do feel like I am finally getting back to ME and I have been doing better and started off just by keeping a commitment to exercise and get out of the house more. I fell into a depression after the surgery and his disappearance. I never thought Yoga would be hard, but I found my self crying during exercise so often, I had to make peace with that too.

It was like I had a physical wound down my chest, like someone cut me open. I would have pain in my chest, I guess anxiety but also heartache.

I was tied up in knots with CD and could not sleep, eat or talk to anyone that understood. I did go see one therapist but she provided me no real help or feedback. I wanted answers so bad but none were there.

I posted yesterday that I felt like the harder or longer we loved them, the hard we fall, the harder it was to get back up.

I wonder what it was that about him and what he did to me that knocked my world off it's axis the way he did?

I did not feel like I would return to 'normal' in the beginning. It was awful to feel that way!! He slowly tortured me with his silent treatment. While I was recovering from surgery I would just lay there and blankly stare, I could not pay attention to the TV or books, my mind was so focused on him and why he was doing this. As we waited for the background check to come back I wondered what I would find. My worse case scenario was that he was really married and a serial cheater, master liar. And that is what came out.

My cancer biopsy was not something I was concerned about - can you believe that? the real test results I wanted weren't going to come from me.

While I was laying there recovering from surgery and grieving he was with his wife and racheting up the supply!!

God it hurt me so much. I was in disbelief, like they must of messed up something and got another narc with the same narc name?! I would just shake my head and say 'no, he's not married' and 'no, that would mean he lied to me about everything from the start'. My Mom would say it again and repeat the report details. She was livid with him too.

Was this a trauma bond ? I was so deeply hurt by him that it has somehow scarred my mind? that I am so affected by him emotionally he destroyed me for a while that I am some how different and changed?

I am embracing accepting what I can't change and that I know after learning about NPD logically I understand that this would of never worked and I honestly say I do feel happy that I was not lied to for a longer period of time.

I have read and read on NPD it seems I never get sick of it yet. I feel I still have more to learn. I didn't trust my own judgement after I came out of the fog.

I felt like he did this all so intentionally just to see if he could and enjoy it & he just to teared me down in the process. I don't get how or why he went through all the effort just to emotionally wreck me for loving him.

The way he was right before he left, turning my questions around on me placing blame on me while lying to my face! I got SO CLOSE to the truth while I had him there and yet I was powerless because I couldn't confirm it.

I am still trying to understand and yet I can't put into words what that really means.

I have made peace with the fact he takes up so much of my brain/thinking because I had NO CHOICE but to make peace with it.

If you had a trauma bond is it somehow more difficult to let them go? is it more difficult to forget?

thanks everyone

May 10 - 10PM
michele115 (not verified)
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Momoya

24 weeks is roughly six months, they say it takes 18 you're only a third of the way. I think it is just outright shocking to experience such indifference and callousness, especially if we are loving and empathetic people. If it was a jerk who cheated that would be one thing, even a married one who cheats - not nice but it happens. In this case, this was a severely disordered individual that hijacked your mind, your heart and exploited your kindness unaware and brought you to a new reality that in a sense, there are some very devious people out there - a type we really could not imagine until we experienced it. It is very much a psychological rape, that isn't a term I'm throwing around loosely. A physical rape has trauma involved, a mental one runs I think just as deep but in a different way and it will take time to recover. That is not at all meant to minimize the victims of physical rape. I have a close friend that has suffered such an assault and it is life changing to experience, not to mention severely traumatic. The only thing to do is keep sharing, purging and getting it out, for however long it takes, throw the clock out the window, you'll heal when you heal and in the meantime we're all here. Hugs!
May 11 - 7AM (Reply to #15)
momoya
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Thank you

Thanks Michele115 for your thoughtful response! I appreciate all the support so much and I find I am relying so much on the board lately. I felt like I was falling into sadness again and I am going to look into finding good counselor that may specialize in betrayal bonds. I am getting better slowly and I will just have to be patient. I am validated by your words/observation of my situation. thanks again!

momoya

May 10 - 2PM
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Momoya

Yes, definately a trauma bond. Someone who no longer posts here recommended "The Betrayal Bond" by Patrick Carnes. From Amazon review of the book, "Exploitive relationships can create trauma bonds--chains that link a victim to someone who is dangerous to them . . . All these relationships share one thing: they are situations of incredible intensity or importance where there is an exploitation of trust or power." When I started reading this book I saw the relationship b/w me and the N and realized that I had a trauma bond with him. The book takes you through a series of exercises that were helpful and emotionally painful at the same time. It is not a long book (but the exercises can take a bit of time) and I didn't feel that the entire book was applicable to me so I took what applied and read through the rest. I'm thinking about you, Nan

Nan

May 11 - 7AM (Reply to #13)
momoya
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thanx

Thank you sweet Nan! I appreciate you! I am going to purchase this used from Amazon - I am willing to do anything to recover and heal my heart. have a good day!

momoya

May 10 - 2PM
gettinbetter
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Betrayal bonds is a highly

Betrayal bonds is a highly addictive attachment to someone who has hurt you. They are formed in relationships and situations of intensity where there has been an eexploitation of trust and or power. Per patrick carnes author of betrayal bond. I for one have every symptom of a betrayal bond. If they go unresolved they can go years laying dormant only to have something trigger it and it usually gets tighter as on my case. I have literally felt like I am in mental bondage to this. I had a five year relationship with this man in my twenties which was full of intermittent trauma of vvarying degrees. When we reconnected after 15 years it felt like I had never been awy from him. This time it only last year but I can tell that the mental bondage and physical symptoms have been 10 times worse. My therapist agrees that I definitley am trauma bonded and I exhibit almost every symptom of it. If you think you are trauma bonded find another therapist and or psychiatrist asap do not leave it unresolved or you will find yourself in my shoes years from now. I thought I would never see much less have relationship with this man ever again. But look it happened and I am desperately trying to untangle this mess and we don't speak
May 11 - 7AM (Reply to #11)
momoya
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:)

Hey gettinbetter, I have been confused by the trauma bond and I think you are right that this is more of a betrayal bond since I was deceived so well and from the start.I am going to try to find a counselor that specializes in that area. I will keep everyone posted. thanks again for your support - it helps to have feedback from people that understand. thanks so much!

momoya

May 10 - 1PM
wacaet
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What really helped me was a

What really helped me was a post on here about how our thinking is distorted by the contrast between their actions and their words and how we struggle to make sense of it. the reality is there is no making sense of their behavior, except when we see it as a pattern, typical to all narcs. Once I realized I'll never really know "why" that the only answer to "why" is "because he is a sick man", I have now slowly, slowly, slowly started to regain a little space in my brain between thoughts of him. The first time I realized I hadn't thought of him was after watching a movie, it was WONDERFUL. I hope you will find more space between your thoughts of him soon, too.
May 11 - 7AM (Reply to #9)
momoya
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You're so right on

We don't need to take up time with the 'why' and 'how'. I needed to be reminded that I don't need to go there - none of us can make sense of some of the crap they do or why they do it. i appreciate your support today - thanks wacaet!

momoya

May 10 - 6PM (Reply to #6)
Tinker
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"space between your thoughts"

Wacaet, this was so insightful. peace is in the silence. read Eckert Tolle's "in the presence of great mystery" who speaks to the space, the silence. let your thoughts flow, then wait for the peace. i felt the same way during the bad times, i resented anyone taking me from my miserable thoughts of him. i wanted to be left alone with them. i'm probably down to 25% now, instead of 95%, and when the yearning starts i can remember that i spent almost 100% of the last 3 years miserable, not happy, and the only way to go is up and out. still so hard but let's work toward that space. luvu all...
May 11 - 4AM (Reply to #7)
marlaoryx
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Tolle: Modern-Day Enlightened Being

Tolle has been such a great help in getting through this. I listen to A New Earth, but I'm going to look into this one, too. I can also highly recommend Tolle, especially on Audio book, as there is something extra soothing about his voice as he reads.
May 11 - 7AM (Reply to #8)
momoya
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A New Earth

Is a wonderful book and very inspiring & enlightening! I do have the audio book on tape! I need to get it out again. Thanks for this suggestion I will get it out after work today.

momoya

May 10 - 12PM
Used
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momoya

i believe the more hurt you are the harder it is to let go,and you have been hurt so badly that it feels like nothing makes sense, to be emotionally in pain and pyshically as well must be very hard to come to terms with and this is why they stay in our head, i have had days when i go over and over events till i could scream, my therapist said, IT WILL PASS. i certainly hope soxx
May 11 - 7AM (Reply to #4)
momoya
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Used

thanks for taking the time to respond to my post! I really appreciate it.. I know that with time we will all heal, and I am going to try to find a GOOD counselor that can help me because I really want to do this and get back my whole heart. It seems I cycle through "questioning" phases and fall into feeling confused again, not sure why. have a good day used!

momoya

May 10 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
Redhead1
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In my case, I was with him

In my case, I was with him for over 20 years. He was a very covert narc. He left me thinking "did that just happen" soooo many times, I still do it sometimes. There were plenty of D&D's throughout the years and he explained them away. The silent treatment was his most used weapon. I read a post on another web site, here it is. "I ask this question also. I know why I stayed: my belief system, my wanting to have a family, my rationalizing his behavior, and me not really realizing that this was all terribly wrong, it was all very familiar to how I grew up. He must have stayed so long because I was such a good supply - I was so devoted to him. This post summed it all up for me. I do know the final and most brutal D&D was more than I could explain away, even to myself. He had put himself and everyone/thing ahead of me for years. I was not gonna be smackdown by another woman. I guess he had tried all the nasty covert tricks he knew and they had not worked in "getting me in line" so he drew out the big guns. WHen I first joined the site, I could not write my story because I questioned myself so bad. I have gotten stronger and wiser. It all was exactly as I thought it was that day. I am not crazy. My friend told me today that I didnt need no one to validate me, because I know the truth. I was so brainwashed, if he told me the sky was green I would have looked at it for a while and tried to find green. I thought he was like me, big mistake. I thought he had my best interst at heart. Whew, we live and learn. I have been NC since last August and I am feeling great. I no longer hate all men, lol. It is amazing what time and NC will do. Thank you girls for everything!!!
May 11 - 7AM (Reply to #3)
momoya
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Hey Red!

The silent treatment is horrible to experience, esp when we didn't do anything really wrong to be treated in such a way. I appreciate this board so much because we all understand and that means so much to me. thank u for your comments today! all the best

momoya