Recovery from a Narcissist is far different than a Normal realtionship

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#1 Sep 1 - 10PM
betty2020
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Recovery from a Narcissist is far different than a Normal realtionship

Author: nickyskye

Subject: grieving a N

My heart goes out to you in your recovery. Grieving the loss of a relationship with a N has many layers. They are not the usual layers of grieving a healthy person. The problem is that some of the layers ARE the same as grieving a healthy person but then there are layers reserved only for the loss of a N relationship, which are not understood by the 'civilian' population and can ONLY be understood by those who have survived a significant relationship with a N.

In a healthy relationship break-up one grieves:

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The dream of love not continuing.
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The break in the continuity of the familiar.
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The pain of saying goodbye.
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The sadness of the exchange of ill will in the parting.
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A sense of loss.
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Living with the nostalgia of things one used to do together, broken memories of past pleasures.
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Hope interrupted.
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Well wishing put aside for self-survival.

Those are typical feelings that can come up after a break-up of a healthy relationship.

But grieving a N there are other ingredients, not available to the public understanding, such as:

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The nightmare of going from being idealized to being devalued.
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Discovering the web of lies on many levels.
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Coming to terms with the terrible, terrible understanding that one was not an object of love but a source of NS. That in itself is so painful that it has many stages of comprehension.
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The dawning of understanding that one's nostalgia and tender memories of affection for the N were corrupted by the N's agenda.
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Not being believed by people about some of the weird things the N did and feeling isolated in one's grief more than in grieving a healthy break-up.
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Discovering with some horror, mingled with relief of a strange kind, that the person one loved was not the person one thought one loved.
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Everything about the relationship shifts into the garish clinical light of the DSMlV. One's object of former love is now something of a lab specimen, "a typical N".
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Not being able to let go with love but having to let go only with understanding. The closure itself has the sadness of knowing the ex is disfigured, deformed but always dangerous. [I'm not certain closure is possible. ~Invicta]
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When one hears one's healthy ex is having sex with a new person, married, or has gone on in their life, there is a sting of sadness, the nostalgia for 'what could have been'. That itself, the astringency becomes part of the detaching. And as time goes by that sting becomes a well wishing, including the ex in one's loving prayers. The ex gets woven into the fabric of one's fond memories.
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But with a xN, news of their present life always bring chills of fear and twinges of unresolved grieving. Who are they hurting now? Will they ever come into my life again? Was I not important to them, was it all that for nothing? Knowing about the N's need for NS one cannot help thinking will they come back for my NS? Was *my* NS something they treasured and miss?
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But in the light of day, understanding the N means that one is not valued for who one IS but only as a commodity, for NS, empty, meaningless NS.
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After the detachment is physically complete with a N there is the nagging abyss of was that all for nothing? It's a terrible loss and there is nowhere to go with that loss. It's static. It doesn't evolve into lost love. It just remains as a loss.

Grieving a N is a burden, it's a hole in one's life.

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Is it surprising that it takes months or sometimes years to stop the obsessive thinking? When you have no clear warning and no real explanation for why, you have no closure. If it were only so easy to read a few books or chat on a forum and think, "Ok hes a Narc and this is who he will always be, time to move on; problem solved" . It is human response to want answers and want this closure. This gives cause to cognitive dissonance and obsessive thoughts. The key here is coming to a point in recovery to accept that the answers nor the closure will never come from the N. It is about acceptance and it can only come from within you. When you can accept the reality and the finality of this you are ready to move forward.

Sep 2 - 12PM
Goldie
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Great article

Hi Betty, While reading the above, I kept thinking how grateful I am that M is in jail for 9 months. By the time he gets out and if I were to run into him, I would probably just look at him and say to myself: I have no idea who this person is and walk away. This period has been invaluable for me in learning, growing, and beginning the process of truly finding my own self. Possibly for the first time in years. I have spent most of my life taking care of others and this is the first time I am focussing all of my energy on me and who and what I am all about. When I first began this process it felt completely foreign to me, almost like I was being selfish. Now I'm starting to clearly see: that if you don't love yourself you cannot love anyone else in a completely healthy way. Also, in my case, when I did not love myself or know myself completely, my choices in men where not very well thought out. Now I can see that when you love yourself, you think before you leap. You get to know a person BEFORE you let them into your inner circle. This is an amazing journey of self awareness and I am thrilled to have everyone on here to share and grow with in RECOVERY. Yippee!!! God bless, Goldie
Sep 3 - 3PM (Reply to #7)
betty2020
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God Bless you Goldie! I am

God Bless you Goldie! I am so happy that we have you. You are a clear example of what recovery really is. Your insight and wisdom is invaluable to us on the board and especially to the newcomer. This is really quite a journey into self exploration and when you see the gift you receive in finding yourself you truly become grateful for your experiences and realize that you are important, worthy of love and respect and will not settle for less. This is so empowering. I too never had this before this happened to me with the N. What an awaking! Lots of love....xoxo Betty only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

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Sep 3 - 3PM (Reply to #5)
empty68
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Goldie...

I too am in the beginning stages of self discovery at 42 years old!!! I do understand the concept of loving yourself before you can love others, but I'm honestly having a problem allowing me to love me...I'm so unhappy with my faults/weaknesses...I'm stuck feeling disgusted with myself for all the mistakes I've made and all the time I've wasted...I guess I'm in the angry stage.

```Live,Laugh,love```

Sep 3 - 4PM (Reply to #6)
betty2020
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your faults and weakness as

your faults and weakness as you call them have been ingrained by this abusive relationship you have been trapped in. It is this brainwashing that keeps us stuck into freeze mode. Us humans are not without faults and weakness. We all have them. It is about your perceptions of these faults and weakness that define your inner happiness. You can choose to focus on the negative or You can make changes in your thoughts and behaviors as you go through your recover by looking at your strengths and virtues. Life is a state of mind. We have the power of choice. I wrote about this in a post "who am I" . I hope you will read it. lots of love today....xoxo only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

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Sep 3 - 3PM (Reply to #2)
STSwiss
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spot on.....

"The key here is coming to a point in recovery to accept that the answers nor the closure will never come from the N. It is about acceptance and it can only come from within you. When you can accept the reality and the finality of this you are ready to move forward." This is absolutely spot on and something I realised whilst going through what I call the 'release phase' of my narc relationship. I was desperately seeking answers, and they were just never coming. The more he blanked me, the more I wanted to get the answers. Accepting your mistake and your role in it all, is the only way forwards. It takes time, and patience, but it can be done Sarah xxxx Web Of Lies - My Life with a Narcissist An honest and emotional account of life with a pathological partner. http://singlemumsal.blogspot.com/ http://www.sarahtateauthor.com/
Sep 3 - 3PM (Reply to #3)
Nicole96
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This is key!

Your N will never be able to help. He can't think straight and he will only make you go crazier in your own head. I would be lost without the books and websites I've been reading. It's what i have done for myself and away from him that has helped the most.
Sep 3 - 4PM (Reply to #4)
betty2020
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You've got it Nicole!!!!!!!!

You've got it Nicole!!!!!!!! Its All About You now only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)