Psychopath went too far.. help please.

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#1 Aug 9 - 7AM
Gravity
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Psychopath went too far.. help please.

I made a huge mistake and saw the psychopath the other night. I drunkenly hooked up with somebody else the other night.. because the psychopath hadnt made time to see me in months yet still wanted to talk to me every single day. And the day after I hooked up with someone else he made an effort to come over.. extremely upset about the fact that I was with someone else. He was "disgusted" and wanted to know EVERY single detail of what happened i.e "where was I? was I on a bed? on a couch? where did he cum? on your back? your tits? your face?" then told me if I didnt tell him EXACTLY what happened between me and this other guy he would "never ever talk to me again" and if "i was gonna act like a slut I needed to tell him what a slut does"

I should have told him to turn the fucking car around when I got a text from him telling me to "wear something sexy because I was going to be making it up to him HARD"

He comes over, things started out ok. We started messing around and I gave him head. All of a sudden out of nowhere he whips out his cell phone camera and starts RECORDING me. I immediately stopped and I was like 'woah what are you doing!?" and hes like "come on please!? it will be so hot blah blah blah" I still said no. So all of a sudden he holds me down, slapped me in the face, choked me, and told me to never ever say no to him and that I was going to take the video. I was REALLY REALLY scared.. like to my core.. so I let him take the video. Afterwards he kept calling me a good girl and told me that "now I got a kiss."

We were laying in bed cuddling after the whole thing when all the sudden the conversation changes to KILLING PEOPLE? He starts going on and on about how he knew how to hide a body and not get caught.. "first you dig down 9 feet.. fill it with dirt 3 feet.. then put a dead animal like a dog.. then fill the rest up. So if the police dogs find a smell it will be the dead animal." I was starting to get REALLY really scared and he knew it because I was like "you're scaring me!" He was like "if you were going to kill someone how would you do it?" and i was like "umm.. ive never thought about that before what the hell!?!" and he was smiling so big and he was like if I was going to kill you i'd go like this: and he started choking me really hard and I was really upset. And then he goes "no actually.. i would do it like THIS so it wouldnt leave any marks" and then starts choking me with his arm. Then he goes "itd be perfect, your twitter is up on your computer and i'd write something like 'goodbye sweet world!' or something you'd say.. and make it look like you did it yourself. All of a sudden I feel his BONER. He definitely got a boner from choking me and scaring me. When we were kissing and he was on top of me he grabbed me by the throat so hard and said "does it turn you on to know that i could kill you RIGHT NOW if I wanted to."

We hooked up again.. and he told me he wanted to put it in my ass. I told him no and he did the same thing as before.. he kept slapping me and choking me and telling me NEVER to say no to him and just because I said no he was going to do it. I had my period so he told me I had 2 choices: 1 was to let him have sex with me and give him head afterwards (GROSS) or let him put it in my ass. I told him I didnt want either and obviously this angered him and he flipped me over and tried to put it in and I was seriously like "stop, please dont hurt me!" He eventually turned super sweet and was like don't worry baby I like you too much to ever hurt you its okay.

He took more videos of me and then kept being SO sweet to me and telling me that "i was so good to him" and told me that I was "perfect" He ended the night putting on the song "i'm forever yours faithfully" and belting it at the top of his lungs just super casually. He put on a couple more journey songs and actually let out a TEAR and was like "these songs make me so happy on the worst days!" IT WAS ALL JUST SO BIZARRE!! He also works at a daycare and told me a story about how this bratty 14 year old kept kicking all the kids in the back of the legs so the psychopath grabbed him under the arm in a monkey bite and held it for an extended period of time and was like NEVER EVER DO THAT AGAIN DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME? I was SHOCKED I was like no.. did you seriously do that to a kid at work!? And he flatly was like "well he never did it again did he?"

Then the next morning we woke up and I get a facebook chat from him saying that he just thinks its better that we're friends because he doesnt want a girlfriend and if he hooked up with me it would just be stringing me along and he didnt want to do that. He said he wouldnt care if I hooked up with anyone else.. when the DAY BEFORE HE WAS LIVID. When I said there was NEVER ANY WAY IN A BILLION YEARS i would be his friend he was shocked and just "couldnt believe I would chose to not have him in my life over him being in it." I told him that I was coming to his house to delete the videos off his phone and he claimed that he had "already deleted them anyways. He didnt want porn on his phone even though it was hot in the moment."

At this point, i'm still very shocked. More in denial that this all got to this point. I always knew he was crazy and a narcissist, but not THIS crazy. I almost don't know what to do. When I told him to never show the videos to anyone when he was at my house he told me he never would and then casually said "ha .. unless you defriend me again or something.. just kidding!" But now its like OMG he has these videos of me, hes blatantly unstable, he's talked about killing people..

I feel like I can't talk to anyone about this.. not even my closest friends its so embarrassing but I need help, please. I'm so sorry to all of you who tried to give me a slap in the face a couple weeks ago when I posted.. for some reason I almost feel like i had to see him one last time. Now i'm kind of at the point where i'm like.. if I stop talking to him is he going to hurt me? What should I do?

Aug 10 - 3AM
NinjaGirl
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Well, the first thing you

Well, the first thing you should have done was call the police and tell them you were raped. Next you get a restraining order. Third you get a really good therapist and see that person on a regular basis, maybe a couple of times a week. Fourth you change your number, email, locks, maybe even place of residence if necessary and make it unlisted. This is seriously messed up and you need help, and I don't say it to be mean. Even when my ex-narc was at his worst, he NEVER did anything even remotely close to this. The worst he ever did was pout and ignore me, or have a silly temper tantrum that was no more threatening than an infant having one. If he had ever done this to me I would have been in the kitchen and then coming back out with the biggest damn knife I could find (well, ok, *I* would have grabbed one of my swords) and told him to get the fuck out of my house and that I was calling the police. And then start screaming so that hopefully your neighbors can hear.
Aug 9 - 10PM
CathyAust
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Gravity I really am hoping

Gravity I really am hoping the advice and actions you have taken in the last 2 days have made you feel better. I hope you have had 2 good nights sleep as well as sleep is so important to being able to menatlly deal with what has happened. You post upset me greatly and I am sending positive thoughts and energy your way so you can heal from his deplorable behaviour and not be damaged from it. Sleep well - keep us in the loop on how you are feeling as we are all wanting you to recover and keep safe. Lots of love from Australia xxx
Aug 9 - 7PM
Eureka
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Tonight, I pray for you.

Tonight, I pray for you.
Aug 9 - 10AM
birdie (not verified)
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gravity

It was brave of you to share this instead of hiding in shame. Part of being done is getting enough that you don't want anymore. We all make mistakes. I know mine come from my sickness, so I am trying to get well, and learn what a healthy life is all about. Until I do that, nothing will change, and I'll get to date psychos for the rest of my life. Not fun. Sounds like you feel cornered into maintaining contact. But from personal experience, I can tell you he's getting off on owning you. He will show the videos whether or not you break contact, so it's up to you if you'd rather not be tortured in the meantime. He's going to talk all sort of demeaning garbage about you no matter what. He probably always has. The damage is already done. There is a strange balance between protecting yourself and aggravating him further. I've been through it a few times, and the only way I've gotten rid of a psycho is to give a clear message to stay away. They will do anything to turn the tables and call you abusive - he may even call the police first, and get a restraining order first, if he feels it will make him look like the victim. A mixed message will just prolong the abuse, and you may not live through another experience with him. There's a reason you're scared! I myself have a knife scar on my face. I stayed. Then he broke all my stuff. I stayed. 76 bruises was the next event. I left. Back then, I was too ashamed of my part in the relationship to get a restraining order. I really was too embarrassed to tell the police, and I was afraid that monster would tell all my secrets. He did anyway. And he harassed me for a year, no matter what I did to hide. I ended up quitting my job and school, became a shut-in, moved, and so on. It's up to you to use the resources available to you. Right now, you're rattled. You need help from a domestic violence resource. They will not shame you. They will help you make the steps required to be safe.
Aug 9 - 10AM (Reply to #23)
Used
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birdie

what a terrible story, what a terrible man...so very glad you got outxx also what you wrote to gravity was so well put... no matter how we deal with these NARC SLAGS....they will defame us...cos thats who they are.
Aug 9 - 10AM (Reply to #21)
Goldie
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Thank you for sharing this for her Birdie

Who knows better than you do and what you endured, my heart goes out to you. Your comments just may save this girl's life and others who read them. People need to hear what can happen if they stay. Thank you for having the courage now to tell it like it is and God bless you that you are here to share and possibly be a wake up call for those still suffering in silence. God bless, Goldie
Aug 10 - 2PM (Reply to #22)
birdie (not verified)
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Not every woman has the

Not every woman has the benefit of healthy examples or support. I love this blog for the (mostly) unconditional support. I had a female friend who saw my bruises (she was the one who counted them) and I will never forget the chiding and belittling she gave me. It hurt worse than the bruises. She made light of the danger, because she knew him. She blamed me for his behavior, blamed me for not being strong like her, all while I was standing in front of her physically and emotionally naked. The police sometimes do the same thing, which is why it is so important to get help from local domestic violence resources, a therapist, and a woman friendly support group. Over the years, I've kept my story to myself. I'm one of those women who landed in one abusive relationship after another, starting from the teen years when I ran from a very violent home. There was some variety, but always the same ending. We are only as sick as our secrets. What I know now is I was trained from toddler years to accept abuse, and predators can see the signs in me. The sad part of my story is after that last horribly abusive relationship, I was alone and vulnerable, and that's when I met the N. Went straight from physically abusive to soul-destroying. That was what woke me up finally, and made me determined to live.
Aug 9 - 9AM
Goldie
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I just got off the phone with Gravity

We spoke at great length regarding her options. She has given me permission to let you know that she is seeking help right now and appreciates the support. Thank you all for jumping right on this grave dangerous situation and supporting her with protecting herself. I feel our conversation was confidential and will leave it to her to give you the details if and when she is ready. She has assured me that she will do what she needs to do to feel safe and address this immediately. God bless, Goldie
Aug 9 - 10AM (Reply to #19)
birdie (not verified)
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goldie

thank you for doing that. I do hope she updates us, and stays safe, and leads others in the right direction.
Aug 9 - 8AM
Lil.Ms.Sunshine
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I have never been so afraid

I have never been so afraid for someone on a forum as I am for you now. Please stay away from him & keep yourself safe. NCEA! You are in my thoughts.
Aug 9 - 8AM
Cgrl
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sorry gravity

Gravity- your situation totally triggered me. I apologize but I will say this- Sometimes we need a slap. Its all nice and sugary around here and I think that Sometimes people need their eyes open. Your situation is not something anyone on this forum should Be handling. I am not a child and don't need to be told to apologize goldie. Next time you Can email me personally. Slapping posters on the wrist in a public Forum is unprofessional. there are people here who are way too sensitive in their situations and I hope they are seeking outside help and not just relying on this forum. I'm am just going to say here that since he now has videos of you- You may want to get law enforcement involved.
Aug 9 - 9AM (Reply to #16)
Goldie
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I stand corrected

The only reason I put it on here is because I have been receiving PM's from members complaining about other members using language too harsh and wanted them to see that it is not acceptable. I apologize to you for putting it here. I totally understand your frustration over this situation and am not judging you; just looking out for members who are put off by that type of comment. God bless, Goldie
Aug 9 - 8AM
girlsinger
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gravity

Hi There Gravity yes its time for a restraing order: here you go: 'I ORDER YOU TO RESTRAIN YOURSELF SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE AT THE LIFE THAT YOU WILL NEVER GET A CHANCE AT IF YOU INSIST ON STAYING BONDED THROUGH SEX TO THIS PARASITE!" just saved you the filing fee but the one from court is way more dramatic but it wont stop a psycopath, Gravity..wow...wake up, sounds like perhaps your addicted to the drama and FOR SURE the "oxytocin" read this..please http://www.drpatallen.com/EXC-goodwomen.shtml take a page from Badabings playbook she is amazing it takes alot of courage and self determination to break this truth is, not everyone has that, you gotta dig deep she did..she has it most folks dont want to dig, so they "settle" they stay for years and years, have kids with these men waste thier lives...and for what? gravity how bad do YOU want it? thats the question you must ask and answer yourself next time you might not be so lucky my deepest hope for you is that you get into therapy ASAP it takes 2 years for your oxytocin levels to return to normal after you stop having sex with him and you havent even stopped yet those 2 years will pass anyway how you gonna spend them? healing or more self torture and maybe worse lets be honest here... he does really seem to like that '"KILLING "stuff be blessed K
Aug 9 - 8AM
StudentOfLife
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Go to the police Get a

Go to the police Get a restraining order Call the abuse hotline Find a women's shelter Dissappear and hide from this "man" IMMEDIATELY!!
Aug 9 - 8AM
Goldie
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gravity

I just posted to you a few posts down from this one and need you to read it and PM me immediately. I will give you my phone number and help you to find help and if you feel scared, call 911 immediately. Also you need the support of a domestic violence shelter or agency. Look it up now and call them and tell them what happened and if this is not something you are able to do call me and I will help you. God bless, Goldie
Aug 9 - 7AM
SoaperGirl
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Just me, but I'd come down hard on him & not in a nice way!

I had a violent and abusive husband. This was back in the 1980s & early 1990s before computers and FB were so widespread as they are now. I took out a restraining order on him after he threatened to kill me and held a knife to my throat. (Ditto another man who choked me years later! I quickly got rid of that dude!) Eventually, I had my husband arrested and divorced him. He went to prison for 6 years, was on probation for 6 more. Now he has to report to every Sheriff's department wherever he lives, and keep them informed of where he is located. They keep track of that bastard. When a man starts getting rough with me, it's time for him to go. Women who stay with violent and abusive men often end up dead.
Aug 9 - 7AM (Reply to #8)
Cgrl
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why

okay. I dont want to be mean but are you fccking nuts here - I mean really, you wanted to go back to "see for yourself'. Ummm.... this guy is past narc honey. This guy is going to hurt you or take it too far. Yeah, keep meeting him to make POSITIVELY SURE he has something wrong with him. Look - umm.. restraining order. No contact. Move. File a complaint. He is going to hurt you bad if you dont get your shit together here. Stay away.
Aug 9 - 8AM (Reply to #11)
Goldie
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Cgrl

I hear your frustration. HOWEVER we do NOT ask members on here if they are "fuckin nuts." Totally unacceptable comment. Please apologize to Gravity and explain yourself and your feelings in a manner to her which does NOT include asking her this. I am quite sure that she knows she did wrong to go back and is asking for help here and the comments MUST be kind. We just went through this very thing elsewhere on here and yes this is a horrible story and we ALL want her to get out, let's just watch the language directed towards her. Gravity, this is overt abuse and calls for a restraining order. You also need to contact your local abuse shelter or call an abuse hotline immediately. This is not to be done alone by you. YOU need support while severing a relationship with a psychopath. Most towns have advocate who will go to court with you and if yours does not you need to enroll some support here. This man sounds extremely dangerous and not only has he abused you physically; he has made death threats to you. He spoke of how to kill and then put his hands around your neck in order to scare and control you. Now he is holding these video's over your head if you defriend him. This is extreme abuse and please PM me right now if you do not know how to take the necessary steps and I will help you. You should not do this alone, when you are in the abuse cycle and you are, you need the help of a domestic violence councelor to help you to have a safe plan. Please respond to this post so that we know that you are doing something to protect yourself from this horrible situation. I will give you my phone number on PM and help you to contact the proper channels if need be and if you feel unsafe in anyway, call 911 immediately. I would like to also know that you have some local support. We are online and of course our hands are tied so please PM me as soon as you read this. God bless, Goldie
Aug 9 - 7AM (Reply to #9)
Gravity
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Cgrl

thanks for your help but it really isn't helping to call me "fucking nuts." And maybe you didn't want to be mean, but you definitely were. Thanks anyways.
Aug 9 - 8AM (Reply to #10)
Cgrl
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I have been where you are

I am sorry if you think I am mean. I was right where you are. I know what can happen. Sorry - wont share anymore experience. Good luck to you.
Aug 9 - 7AM (Reply to #6)
Gravity
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SoaperGirl

Do you think its time for a restraining order?
Aug 9 - 8AM (Reply to #7)
SoaperGirl
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In a word

YES!
Aug 9 - 7AM
Layla
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Couldn't finish reading this.........

......oh my gosh flashbacks so bad reading this.......... YOU NEED TO STAY AWAY FROM THIS ABUSER!! Don't you know he will NEVER CHANGE???? Mine almost raped and strangled me to death and he was my HUSBAND!! What's it going to take???!!! I only say these things out of concern for you!!!!
Aug 9 - 7AM
Hunter
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Ok, You know better so do

Ok, You know better so do better! NC, Block him everywhere. Do it! Hunter
Aug 9 - 7AM
BadaBing
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seductive violence

HI Gravity I really could relate to alot of your post above. I had a relationship in which the EX casually introduced violence into our sex life via soft seduction. It is only now that I am that I see how it started. He wanted to tie me up as well, he also wanted anal sex. I think they just push the limits. You really need to get away from this psycho, and you know it Gravity. Anyone that speaks like the way he does, and gets off on violence and intimidation is a danger to you. I hope you will do what ever you can to keep NC. EX like to put his hand around my neck too and I can understand that he felt all the more powerful, when they are control freaks this is esp concerning now for me. I will view this as a red flag in the future. Sex should not include hitting, force or any kind of violence - was he ever tender with you? please be careful
Aug 10 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
Sunafterrain
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Gravity

I'm relieved to hear you will be getting help. The next time, if you do not follow through with your NC, you could be dead. This man is incredibly dangerous. But you already get that now. Badabing, what is the deal with these psychopaths, sex and putting their hands to or around your neck during the act? My ex would rub his hand (rather harshly), up and down my abdomen and then his hands to my neck and SQUEEZE. One time, towards the end of the relationship, SO HARD I could not breathe and gently tried to wriggle my way out of his grasp. It was gradual, but over time, he would squeeze a little harder than the last time....what the hell is that all about? It NEVER felt loving and my alarm bells were definitely going off!