A Narc's perspective - "I am Special"

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#1 Jul 25 - 12PM
Arwen
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A Narc's perspective - "I am Special"

I would love for posters to elaborate on different experiences with the narc's statements listed below:

Here are some of the typical beliefs that they have listed (pp. 361-362) by Aaron T. Beck.:

Since I am so superior, I am entitled to special treatment and privileges.

I don't have to be bound by the rules that apply to other people.

If others don't respect my status, they should be punished.

Other people should satisfy my needs.

Other people should recognize how special I am.

Since I am so talented, people should go out of their way to promote my career.

No one's needs should interfere with my own.

Jul 29 - 9PM
tresor2
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The OW - You Think That You Are So Special

http://forum2.aimoo.com/NARCISSISTICPERSONALITYDISORDER/THE-TARGET-Healing-Survival-Tactics-Read-Only/So-You-target-Think-You-Are-Special-1-660027.html Your post reminded me of this article...it's the opposite of what you elude to...it has to do with the OW thinkings she is so special and has the ability to change him.
Jul 30 - 12AM (Reply to #22)
Arwen
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Oh wow I will have to read

Oh wow I will have to read that post tomorrow morning thank you! I was the OW once...weren't we all at some point?
Jul 29 - 6PM
deecbee
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"I am special" The Narc would

"I am special" The Narc would frequently talk to me about how all his past relationship ended explosively, usually with the woman blowing up at him and banishing him from her life after an accumulation of crap he was putting her through. His take on the whole thing?: "I make women so mad, they completely shut me out of their lives and vow never to speak to me again. I wonder why I get such a strong reaction from them... this doesn't happen to anyone else I know. It must be because I'm special, right?" Actual words from a Narc.
Jul 29 - 7PM (Reply to #16)
Arwen
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Decbee this is a fantastic

Decbee this is a fantastic post with such a PREDICTABLE quote from your N. It is just unreal what they will come up with to escape taking any responsibility for their behavior.
Jul 29 - 7PM (Reply to #17)
deecbee
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Crazy, isn't it? I just bit

Crazy, isn't it? I just bit my tongue when I heard that, but inside, my jaw dropped... and I immediately thought of this board, ha! Such a narc perspective. No, it couldn't POSSIBLY be because they are assholes and terrible people to be around, it must be because they are rare little gems! In what world does that even make sense but a narc's world?!
Jul 29 - 7PM (Reply to #18)
Arwen
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Deecbee yeah it is so crazy

Deecbee yeah it is so crazy it's hard to believe they say things like this. But I still truly feel that they know everything they say is BS. I think they totally know they ruin everything and that is precisely why they say stuff like this. My experience was that my ex N would say stuff like this with total knowledge that I was on to him, but he just had to say something to buff his ego up. In fact his ego was more fragile than an antique china plate - breakable, so easily breakable and fragile. G-d what an amazing, powerful and useful man my N could have been. So frustrating.
Jul 29 - 8PM (Reply to #19)
deecbee
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I agree, there is so much

I agree, there is so much contradiction with the things these narcs say that on some level they must know they're full of shit. I'd even go as far as saying that with certain people, they don't even CARE if they're onto them or not. I've called the N out so many times, I've exposed him, I've called him a liar, a textbook narcissist, delusional, manipulative.... everything you can think of. He knows that I know, but he still keeps spouting off classic narc phrases. He knows I know he's full of shit, so at this point I have to believe that, like you say, some of these guys just talk in order to convince themselves of their own BS and blow smoke up their own asses. Bizarre.
Jul 29 - 8PM (Reply to #20)
Arwen
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Yeah...they have to lie to

Yeah...they have to lie to themselves cause how else could they look in the mirror in the morning? (or all day should I say LOL?)
Jul 29 - 10AM
Reddley
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Regarding my own exN - I

Regarding my own exN - I could give a number of examples for each of those items in your list. These assholes should just be born with "My shit doesn't stink" tattooed onto their bodies.
Jul 29 - 7PM (Reply to #14)
Arwen
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Reddley that is just so true.

Reddley that is just so true. And the mothers raise them that way. I am married to a son of one of these sicko bitches.
Jul 29 - 9AM
landed
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Oh, so many examples...here are a few

"Since I am so superior, I am entitled to special treatment and privileges": One time he was ranting about how his brother’s family was taking a vacation to a theme park. He said he told them that they should not be wasting their vacation time going to theme parks, they should be going to visit historical sites…blah blah blah. I said “But it’s THEIR vacation…they should do what THEY want to do…not what YOU would want to do…” He got all superior and said “OH WAIT A MINUTE- You don’t understand my role in this family. Sometimes I am the big lovable teddy bear and sometimes I am my mother’s son and I tell everyone how it is and they listen.” I "I don't have to be bound by the rules that apply to other people." One time he took his daughter to the gym to sign her up for a membership. The procedure was that new members have a brief orientation to the equipment, rules etc. He decided that wasn’t necessary (but the gym manager said it was) and proceeded to make a huge scene which ended with him storming out, his daughter feeling embarrassed and humiliated and no gym membership for her. "Other people should satisfy my needs." He was constantly harping on his wife for not catering to him.He wanted her to be at his beck and call - if he wanted to watch TV, she was supposed to sit with him and watch TV. I feel like she could not do anything right at all for him. And yet…the things he complained about her doing were not any different than any of us would do. He would say “She is always doing bills and laundry” to which I would reply, well someone has to pay the bills and make sure there is clean underwear in the drawer." When I asked why he didn’t help her out - he "works" from home, he could do the laundry - he scoffed at that notion. "I shrunk a sweater once. I'm not going near the washing machine." "Other people should recognize how special I am."- He told me one time that his wife didn’t appreciate how great he is and he actually said these words “I am a catch”. (I’ll say. We all should have THROWN YOU BACK when we had the chance.) You know, I honestly used to think he was kidding when he said some of the stuff he said becauseit was almost comical hearing him say stuff like that but I realize now he was totally serious.
Jul 29 - 6PM (Reply to #12)
Arwen
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Landed...I am SURE we were

Landed...I am SURE we were with the same N. I simply can't believe how much you have said are the exact words and actions of my ex N. G-d this makes me feel SO MUCH BETTER to know how alike these nutjobs are!!! Thank you! and by the way...the comical nature of these remarks is something I have often felt when I finally saw that he was serious too. They really do believe what they say about themselves.
Jul 28 - 8PM
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"If they don't respect my status"

The ex-Psych prof was ESPECIALLY finicky on this one. He took it as a MAJOR narcissistic injury if his fellow professors called him by his first name. He once gave the silent treatment to a prof (who was older than him&male) because this prof called him by his first name instead of "Mr. T---." The ex-P thought that since he was the teacher, and I was the student, he was entitled to treat me as he wished. He saw my declaration of love as the unforgivable sin that HAD to be punished. He'd talk A LOT about his family, and after the final D&D, I mentioned how he was a brother&a son, not just a teacher. His response? The command "Think of me as just a teacher!" Well, talk about telling me waaay too late. He said he brought up his family "in order to look human." The ex-P didn't just treat his students with a sense of entitlement. He treated his colleagues the SAME WAY. So, by the final D&D, he was a lone wolf. And anyone who knows how predatory canines act is that they NEED their packs. A coyote without his pack is totally vulnerable;a mountain lion can ambush him&make him lunch. The ex-P had alienated EVERYBODY by the final D&D. His colleagues didn't defend his behavior;I was surprised.
Jul 30 - 6AM (Reply to #10)
Susan32
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Calling him by his first name

The ex-Psych prof couldn't stand being called by his first name. He even referred to his girlfriend (after I met her) as "Miss G---." So coldly formal&businesslike... about the woman who was living with him&who'd eventually have his kids, then marry him. So yeah, whenever I've broken NC I've ALWAYS called him by his first name. He'd probably say I was treating him "casually",having a "low opinion" of him and "disrespecting" him... and I'd just roll my eyes contemptuously&do it anyhow. Having his students call him by his last name gave him a sense of power&authority. At my college, it's customary. Some professors don't mind being called by their first names outside class... but the ex-P did. The ONLY person the ex-P called by his first name was his Daddy (the ex-P's father&my brother in-law have the same first name,go figure) Whenever I've broken NC, I use the ex-P's first name. I'm a stickler on that.
Jul 28 - 8PM
birdie (not verified)
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I just realized something too

I don't think this latest was my first narc. My ex-husband I married when very young. he was twice my age. Giving birth to our daughter at home, I almost died of blood loss, but my midwife threw me in a tub of cold water because I wouldn't go to the hospital. I knew there would be worse consequences if I wasn't home to take care of his needs. Sure enough, as soon as the midwife left our home, he had me up and cooking his breakfast. Right now, every one looks like a narc to me. I've got some serious boundaries, and am learning not to give any sort of trust out carelessly. Amen!
Jul 29 - 7PM (Reply to #8)
Susan32
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That's terrible

There's nothing more cowardly than a man who abandons his wife when she's pregnant/in childbirth. She's in an incredibly vulnerable state. When she needs help THE MOST. It's awful you suffered through that. I'm sorry you had to go through that suffering.
Jul 29 - 6PM (Reply to #7)
Arwen
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Birdie this is such an insane

Birdie this is such an insane story. I'm so sorry honey.
Jul 25 - 3PM
lillymarch
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No ones needs should interfere with my own needs

I am a mother of 5. When my baby was 2 months old I started back to work. I'm a care provider and the kids can come with me. I use to leave the big kids at home with their father the Narc. (Never should have done that.) 4 years ago he lost his job. We lost properties and we went on welfare. My job got us out off of that. So, we're barely making it, I'm homeschooling 4 kids, have the new baby, we are struggling financially, and he takes his OW to a concert, buys a new $800 suit, $200 tickets, restaurant, hotel, the whole 9 yards. Need I say more? (and in my own defense, I got with this man as a teenager. Looking back he was always a Narc. I had no idea who i was dealing with. I've been brainwashed for so long! But once you awaken, life just rolls. It's amazing how when you live in reality and truth that wonderful things happen and opportunities open up to you.)
Jul 25 - 7PM (Reply to #5)
Arwen
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Thanks Lily this an

Thanks Lily this an unbelievably horrible story. I'm so sorry. I am going to PM you about something. Hope you are better now?
Jul 25 - 3PM
lillymarch
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Stealing money

The ex-N in my life with his salesmen like techniques was able to 'borrow' hundreds of thousands of dollars from both his and my sides of the family. This was to the point where they would take loans out against homes they worked 35 years to own. With promises of repayment in 2-3 years, he was unable to follow through with that. So, when some of them needed the money back or at least have him make the payment on the loan they took out he refused. He talked and talked and they were convinced that 'something' would happen, he'd have a big deal coming through or a plan that was going to take off. Years passes. He believed that his dreams (what he spent the money on), was more important that the retirements and lives of these other people. He could have sold his investment and tried to repay these individuals. Maybe this is a sense of entitlement? His need for his extravagant dream was more important that the daily quality of life for these people who out of love tried to help him. It's sad.
Jul 25 - 8PM (Reply to #3)
Arwen
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By the way - yes it is

By the way - yes it is definitely a sense of entitlement. To a huge extent from what you're describing.
Jul 25 - 8PM (Reply to #2)
Arwen
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Me - exactly the same story.

Me - exactly the same story. No empathy for anyone else. They can't put themselves in anyone else's shoes and they don't want to. Are you out of this now and how are your kids doing now?