Narcs and Jealousy?

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#1 Feb 2 - 11AM
Mindy
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Narcs and Jealousy?

I never quite picked up on the jealousy aspect of my ex-narc. In retrospect, my ex was extremely clingy and got upset if other people would talk to me, but he would claim he was upset because they interrupted him while he was trying to say something.

Since our split, my ex tries to act blasé whenever we've had to communicate, but once the subject got on a teacher I needed to see, he made a comment like "I knew it would be a guy" and started being sarcastic about this teacher. The classic I dont want you really (of course unless you wanna have a fling) but I dont want anyone else to have you either...)

I've read that Narcs are jealous about anything and everything... was wondering if anyone else had experience the bizarreness of their jealousy?

Feb 3 - 4PM
Mindy
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On Jealousy and Paranoid Behavior

I wonder if it's because they know what they are doing or would do, and they assume we must be the same way?
Feb 3 - 6PM (Reply to #35)
gettinbetter
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Mindy they think that we all

Mindy they think that we all think like they do as they know no different.
Feb 3 - 2PM
prettypeeved
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I'm quite a popular poster

I'm quite a popular poster on another site which he uses, and the number of times it got mentioned...it was like people weren't supposed to LIKE me, I wasn't supposed to have more friends than he had. Oh, and I was warned by him that he was very "competitive" - i.e. heaven forbid you were better than him at anything because he'd do ANYTHING to change that if he could. Sad little creepy little freak.
Feb 3 - 10PM (Reply to #33)
Susan32
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Competition

My freshman year, the ex-Psych professor claimed that he was writing a book about Augustine&Wittgenstein. Turned out it was a hoax. If he had really meant it, it would've been published in '06. I'm figuring his Wittgenstein/Augustine article that was published the year after the D&D was in the pipeline during my junior year. My senior year, I wrote my senior thesis on Augustine. He has NEVER written about Augustine again. What's even funnier is that I was looking in college announcements back in '09, and he had gotten some grant to be a literature expert... so much for his claim to be a philosopher on the subject of religion, or a philosophy expert. Somehow I wonder if my writing on religion MIGHT have something to do with that. LOL So, I guess i succeeded in tainting Augustine, religion, AND philosophy for him. Lucky me.
Feb 2 - 7PM
onwithmylife
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Unbelievable

the EXNARC was a sicko when it came to be jealous and paranoid, had my ex-husband as one of my contacts on my email account and he said what for, I said why not, he is the father of my child and learn to live with it, yet he is the one to DUMP me.He saw a man and his little daughter coming down the stairs of my house, the neighbor had come over to change the toilet seat for me and as soon as he saw the guy took off immediately in his vehicle, did not say a word, why on god's earth would it seem like I am screwing this neighbor??!!!He once punched out the furnace guy at his 3rd wife's house who, guess what, was fixing the furnace in the basement, because he thought the man was screwing around with her.he had such double standards, he wrote the book on that one.
Feb 3 - 9AM (Reply to #30)
helldweller
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onwithmyllife

Same here. He would not let me speak to my ex husband, even to arrange him seeing our daughters. So I literally did not speak to him for ten months. I finally said, "Screw this" when I found out dickhead had gone to California for a week to see another woman behind my back. All I ever heard from him was "You're still in love with your husband." And when I told him we needed to talk about the future because the girls needed a father he said, "They HAVE a father. Give me a break." I said, "I want you to be their father, to be at home with them, to be a family. They need a man in the HOUSE." He said, "Oh, PLEASE!" But he would go around telling everyone how much his foster child needed a father in the house. Ack!
Feb 3 - 4PM (Reply to #31)
onwithmylife
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Helldweller

Again it all stems from LOW SELF ESTEEM, for them it is in the toilet, thanks to whatever happen in their pathetic childhood.They feel worthless and guess what, they are! how about that.............
Feb 2 - 4PM
insectt (not verified)
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Territorial..

Mine would actually say "I don't get jealous. I'm territorial." Because to him he's the "Alpha Male. And who would want to be with someone lesser than an Alpha Male?" In the beginning I interpreted these remarks as charming confidence. Nope, just part of his ego and sense of entitlement. But he would become jealous, I mean 'territorial' when some of his friends became friends with me. Two even becamse closer and better friends with me than him..because I reciprocated friendship like most people do.
Feb 2 - 3PM
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Jealousy as manipulation

Mine told me at one point that if I ever tried to manipulate his feelings by purposely making him jealous he'd be gone. One week before he dumped me he accused me of doing that with a guy that was obviously a bit taken with me. I wasn't doing anything 'on purpose', but he said I was leading the guy on because I needed validation from him. He even suggested I spoke to this guy that I'd only met once before (and barely knew) about N and how dissatisfied I had become in our relationship. I didn't see it then for the projection it likely was because it was a few months yet before finding out my exN was the one likely doing that as he wooed his next supply source who he got into a relationship with me right after leaving me. He denies this is true - that they were really still just friends at that time and that they didn't get more involved right away, yet I suspect it was all part of 'the plan of his escape' which he was putting into place before he could leave. Journey on...

Journey on...

Feb 2 - 2PM
helldweller
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jealousy

Oh and I think I already mentioned that I dedicated my last book to him and he refused to even congratulate me on its publication. I took him the first copy when they arrived from the publisher and he actually threw it on the floor in his vestibule and said, "Oh, thank you so much" very curtly and said, "Anything else? Ok, good night." And slammed the door in my face. I cried and cried on the phone (voice mails, he wouldn't answer). I texted him: "Will you please just congratulate me?" and he said "No. I will not."
Feb 3 - 8AM (Reply to #26)
onwithmylife
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HELLDWELLER

You took the limelight away from the creep, never suppose to do that. Your EXN is something else, but then, that is nothing NEW.They cannot stand it when someone else OUTSHINES his majesty!!!
Feb 2 - 2PM
ABC0311
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Very jealous of my close family & other things

...but my favorite jealous moment ever was when my mother and I were getting the nursery ready he pouted, "Well, I didn't have a nice room like this when I was a baby" and walked out in a huff. I remember thinking to myself, "He's really not joking!"
Feb 2 - 1PM
ally2375
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Hidden jealousy

Oh, yes! I have to agree with others here who said that the jealousy was there, but well hidden. Here are a few examples of mine: 1) We went out to lunch one day and I mentioned something I was planning with my friends. He made a face and said something like, "you have A LOT of friends, don't you?" He said it like that is a bad thing. 2) Our office planned an evening at the race track a few months back. He IM'd me earlier in the day to ask if I was going. When I said I was, he said, "well then, I will come, too!" He arrived later than I did and I was already engaged in conversation with others when he got there. I said hello, but didn't immediately jump to give him all my attention. He left about 10 minutes later. It was a 45 minute drive from the office to the track and he stays 10 minutes?! When I asked him later why he left, he said he had to go home and clean his house. Ummmm, okay... 3) He was at my house one day and noticed that the light on my refrigerator indicating that I needed to change my filter was glowing red. He mentioned it and I said, "yeah, I think I got an email about that awhile ago." (the place where I order my filters sends an email reminder every few months) He immediately snaps, "Who sent you the email?!" I responded (jokingly) that it was an old boyfriend who is just REALLY concerned with the on-going quality of my kitchen water. He laughed, but said, "well, that's what I was thinking though." How dare they be jealous when they are cheating and lying left and right?!?!
Feb 2 - 1PM
victimnomore
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MY NH

MY NH was very jealous, he did not want me to talk to my neighbors whom I have known for 20 tears. He use to say that I need to watch how I speak to the neighbors because I am flirting WTF??? He would also say that I have all of my family that loves me, (like there is something wrong with having family that love you). Once he stormed out of a memorial service because all of my co-workers were hugging me.

victimnomore

Feb 2 - 1PM (Reply to #22)
fierflie
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family loving you

one time, he was waiting for me in dallas to drive back to our home town. i had to fly in. somehow, which airport in houston i had to go to got lost in translation, so i ende dup missing my flight and having to take the next one. i was so terrified of him being upset with me that i yelled at my mom for telling my brother in law the wrong airport. she then called him begging him not to get mad at me for it and that it was all her fault.she basically begged him not to rage at me. this made him even more furious. when i saw him, he held up his phone and said 'i kept this message to remind me of how your mother coddled you and what is wrong with you'. i felt like even having my mom care about me was something for him to judge.
Feb 2 - 1PM
fierflie
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that one drives me crazy

*I* was the jealous one. my couldn;t give two shits what i did except in the very beggining. i soooo wante dhim to get jealous. guys would flirt with me in front of him because they thought he was MY DAD, and he would say things like 'oh, he's not flirting with you! he's just having fun' like-why would someone flirt with me? i, on the other hand, was so out of control rediculous jealous that i couldn;t stand to go to events with him because i had anxiety that he owuld leer at little girls. sigh... then he used it agianst me and said he couldn;t take me anywhere because i would accuse him of leering at little girls, and that our relationship broke down because of it. i'm still trying to belive it wasn't my fault :(
Feb 2 - 12PM
Susan32
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Jealous of animals and little kids

The ex-Psych professor once raged "Only dumb animals and stupid kids like you!" He was insanely jealous that a dog followed me back to campus... and that I got along great with little kids at an elementary school were I was volunteering. One of his favorite Arthur Schopenhauer quotes is that women are able to relate kids because they're perpetually stuck in childhood&thus perpetually immature. He LOVED dredging up that quote. I owe karma a night on the town, with some bubbly and a nice dinner. Because I get along great with my toddler nephew... and his father (my brother in-law) has the same name as the ex-P's, and is growing up in the Bay State. Believe me, I broke NC to use those facts for LOLs on my part. Yes. I had laughs. At his expense. Thank you, US Postal Service.
Feb 2 - 1PM (Reply to #15)
fierflie
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susan

i have said it before and i'll say it again, that guy is a FREAK
Feb 2 - 2PM (Reply to #18)
Journey
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COMPLETE FREAK!!

I have to agree Susan, everything you've said about him just screams FREAK! The image I have of him in my head is quite hilarious too. Not to belittle your story or anything, but just because of how you've described him. Journey on...

Journey on...

Feb 2 - 10PM (Reply to #19)
Susan32
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He's got a paper on the Internet...

"The image I have of him in my head is quite hilarious too"-Yeah, after the disgrace of the final D&D... the ex-P found himself being parodied in the senior skit FOR THE FIRST TIME. He liked it when his colleagues were being satirized... but when it was his turn to get his cherry popped, he made a mad dash for the door. After drinking a whole bottle of beer. And, i'd rather be laughing at him.... and getting tears from all that laughing... than crying over him ;) "Just because of how you described him"-He was the Most Mocked Professor on campus. Most profs were only mocked at the senior skit;he was the one mocked all year round. Believe me, he was laughed at. A LOT. I just hope the seniors the past decade have mocked him well. As Stephen Sondheim said "Send in the clowns."
Feb 2 - 1PM (Reply to #16)
Susan32
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He called himself a freak

During the honeymoon period, he called himself a freak. As Oprah said, when someone tells you who they are, LISTEN!
Feb 2 - 3PM (Reply to #17)
fierflie
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mine's myspace name at one

mine's myspace name at one point was 'imafreak'. now he tells women he was never on myspace! the truth about him finding me on there is too creepy i guess.
Feb 2 - 12PM
safyre99
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My exN was jealous of the

My exN was jealous of the fact I have a master's degree and make decent money... he would always make me feel that I wasn't smart and he would make comments like "it's nice to have money" if I told him I was buying something like a piece of furniture or something. I got to the point I didn't feel comfortable sharing happy news with him such as a raise, since I knew he wouldn't be happy for me. I know it stems from his insecurity but it still really hurt. And, especially since I would always be happy for him with his accomplishments... and he could never reciprocate.
Feb 2 - 1PM (Reply to #13)
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Same, same, same. We both

Same, same, same. We both own/operate our own businesses and he would always find was to establish himself as superior. I supported him at every challenge. He could not do the same for me. I finished my MBA while involved with him. He got involved in my graduation and party. I thought he cared, but know now that it made HIM feel important and didn't have anything to do with his commitment to me. I ended up doing the same thing you did - not saying anything. That's no way to live.
Feb 2 - 12PM
Hunter
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Jealousy

You bring up a good point. It just occured to me, When I was with my narc he never showed jealousy. He introduced me to his friends ( I guess they were "friends") Once I started getting close to them, having conversations, and making them laugh, that's when he started pushing me away. Oh Mr Narc are you losing control of your world?? I wouldn't want to change you as You said I was trying to do. These guys are real creatures arent they? I cant beleive i was missing him yesterday. Remind me what exactly was I missing?? I get more love from my Dog!!! Idealk
Feb 2 - 12PM
helldweller
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jealousy

Here's a typical narc scenario with mine: I left him finally after three years of abuse and neglect and started seeing someone else. He lied to me and said he had cancer so I would come back to him, which I did. So I had to go out with the new guy and tell him I was going back to the narc. The narc, with his fake cancer, threw a fit that I had to go out with him for an hour. All evening he texted me "I can't believe you're out with him" and "You don't really love me" I found out two months ago that he'd taken the OW out to dinner that night, double dating with his best friend and his wife, and had screwed her before coming to me after I came home from breaking up with the new guy for him and his fake cancer. Early in the relationship, he sat on my couch and told a "funny story" about how he found a drunk woman with two flat tires at a gas station a few years before and had fixed her tires and driven her home because he "couldn't let her drive, honey" and she had offered to give him a blow job in thanks but he instead just wanted to be her friend (yeah, right) and had gone on to befriend her, give her money and help her divorce her abusive husband. I was just like, "Why are you telling me this but whatever" Then later, on the same evening he told me that story, we were talking about the snow and I mentioned a boyfriend I'd had in HIGH SCHOOL who took me sledding and he stormed out because "I don't want to hear about your boyfriends. How do you think that makes me feel?"
Feb 2 - 11AM
gettinbetter
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Oh yes! But they are stealth

Oh yes! But they are stealth and they rarely let you see it because they don't want you to have any weapons to use against them. I only saw it a handful of times with mine but when he let it slip out a couple of times WOW! On those couple of occasions he must have just been seething so much that he could no longer hold it in and he is the master of the poker face
Feb 2 - 12PM (Reply to #2)
Mindy
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Thank you!!!

You know why I love this forum so much? Because people say things on it that I haven't quite identified myself, but ring true. Somehow, that is very healing. When you said "they don't' want you to have any weapons to use against them," that pretty much summed up my entire frustrating experience with him! Everything he said or did that I questioned because it was alarming or didn't add up, he would deny or claim I misunderstood. Thank you for showing me I wasn't crazy!
Feb 2 - 12PM (Reply to #7)
gettinbetter
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You are welcome they are

You are welcome they are some the most jealous creatures on earth they just will never let you see it if they can at all help it. They know its a weakness and that you can use it against them just the way they sniff out our weaknesses and use it against us. I think too the more jealousy that you envoke in them the harder the d and d. Honestly I know how jealous mine is by how jealous I am he projects his jealousy on to me. I have never been so crazy with jealousy as I was with him.
Feb 3 - 3PM (Reply to #8)
MandyM
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This is interesting. Mine

This is interesting. Mine would constantly tell about the other women he was friends with - where they went together, what they did, how one considered him her best friend, also how various female clerks in stores would flirt with him, how hot he found one waitress. I always figured this was to try to get a reaction out of me. It worked - I was incredibly jealous, but HE never knew that because I never said a single word about it and just let every comment go like it was no big deal. Is it possible that HE was the jealous one?