My Therapist Said

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#1 Jun 7 - 4PM
dabussard
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My Therapist Said

I had my first session with my therapist. She told me that she can fix me, but she can't fix my N. I started crying and said I would pay you anything if you could fix him.. Why can't they be helped... If I talked him into therapy would it help?

She told me to take the next week and think about what it takes to find me again. That I need to decide if I want my husband, the narc or maybe neither one. Wow! I truely don't think that i can answer that all in one week. My N consumes my every thought. She also told me to make a pros and cons list for my Narc and bring it back with me..

I asked her what to do when he contacts me again. She told me to go to the barn and spend time with my horses and truely think about whether or not I want to go up there. I told her if I don't jump when he says jump, I will be punished for it. I have to go immediately or just not at all.. I go into a total haze when he calls, I know the consequences that i can lose my husband, farm, house maybe even my job, But I am helpless and I still go... It is like its not even me..

She asked me to name some of the things that i like about him off the top of my head... All I could come up with was fun... Couldn't think of one other thing.. She said he is all about control and manipulation.. If that's the case and he wants control of me, then why does he go days and weeks without contacting me? He can't control me without contact. She also said what you all have been saying to cure an addiction you must have no contact.. I back there, with no contact but I am still very weak and vulerable...

She told me it is not me that he wants, but there is something he can gain from me. Whether it be a cash cow, my farm or just the pure thrill of spliting up my marriage.. I have thought about that and I think that it is the image of a good girl on this arm that he can flaunt to his friends. And also something stable so that he can get his daughter to come around more.. But he has admitted to wanting to split my marriage up before in a fit of rage.

What do you all think?

Sorry to lengthy,
She just has my mind really thinking

Jun 7 - 11PM
enpsychopedia r... (not verified)
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Dabussard, I think you might

Dabussard, I think you might need mild meds. I'm seeing a transpersonal psychologist right now. She's not authorized to dispense meds, but is encouraging me to take them for obsessive compulsive thinking on a temporary basis. She's helping me with the spiritual emotional problems, but there's only so much that she can do for problems that are rooted in biochemistry I think I have mild OCD that is triggered by excitement anxiety grief, etc..So being D and D'd by a narc certainly meets the criteria! I so look forward to getting gooned on something other than narc-thought.
Jun 7 - 11PM (Reply to #19)
Arwen
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Enpsych you are right on...my

Enpsych you are right on...my psychiatrist upped my anti-depressant today when I told him that I had had the affair with ex N and how shattered and anxious I have been since. I asked him if he thought I might be bi-polar II and he said no, I really just think that you are very drawn to narcissists due to your upbringing with severe NPD in your father. He told me he felt this whole thing has put me in a real tailspin and he upped my standing meds. Great guy and I agree with what you just told Dabussard.
Jun 7 - 10PM
Arwen
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I told ex N I was leaving my

I told ex N I was leaving my husband this past January...that was it. They are full of shit. They can't handle taking care of someone and someone else's kids. They can't even keep themselves out of jail. Get into counseling with your husband as I am doing now after affair with narc, and figure things out. But first get rid of that idiot, go NC. You have real life issues to think about such as the real wedding you had, and what you think you need to do about that. I am dealing with the same thing and it's so much easier to go into la la land fantasizing about narc and wishing him back and la la la la la. Then reality hits. Let it hit you too.
Jun 7 - 8PM
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Don't give up on your marriage just yet!

The main points of your story are the same as mine. My N coerced me out of my marriage into a long distance affair. I was totally addicted to him and was ready to give up my marriage of 20 years. We, too, had been sexless for 7+ years and living as roommates. This was a high school thing revisited after 27 years...we met at Christmas for an evening. After our calls, emails, and texts dwindled down (knew we weren't going to see each other for awhile as he is 6 hours away), I had more time to realize what a nervous wreck I had become, how excited I was and how I'd wait for every call, text, email and, yet, afterwards, feel exhausted, depleted, let down. He, at one point, was encouraging me to leave my marriage...then later encouraged me to get counseling ??? I knew this was so out of character for me and regardless of how little passion my marriage had, I owed it to myself to go for counseling. I have talked at length with my husband, read many books on relationships at mid life, etc. etc. With NC I have come out of my fog... Please believe me when I tell you that my marriage is now better than it ever has been. We're in our mid 40's, no worry of pregnancy anymore, just having sex to enjoy it and let go and reconnect. The more you have it with a real man, the more you want it, and the closer it has brought us back together. Rekindling this real relationship is a constant reminder of how kind and gentle my husband is over the selfish and controlling N. This board has kept me sane. Allowed me to be human and forgive myself for being manipulated by the Master Manipulator himself. These guys are SO good at this. He pulled out a dormant codependent piece of my soul and it was RAGING for him. I have never known myself to feel that energy high he put out nor have I seen or heard myself say and do the things I did with him. Like I was on another planet. Stay strong. These ladies know what they are saying. I thank God I got out after 5 months...some of these ladies have lifetimes of these psychopaths!!! Prayers of strength to you....
Jun 7 - 6PM
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dabussard

Ok, let me get this straight. 1. You are married. 2. You are in "love" with a narc. Ok, first of all, finish your marriage first. Why isnt it working for you? Maybe you have some issues to deal with before you start dating someone else, right? At any rate, either decide to commit to your marriage or divorce this man. He doesnt deserve the treatment. Why lower yourself to what MEN do most of the time? Run do not walk away from the narc. He is as full of shit as the day is long. End of story.
Jun 7 - 6PM (Reply to #15)
dabussard
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Four Aces

I have been in a sexless marriage for 7 years. Guess I was lonely and damn tired of sleeping alone. Once, I find me again and when the therapist thinks i'm ready. She will do marriage counseling with me and my husband. Let me tell you thou, There is nothing there romantically.. We are just good friends as we have been for the last seven years... My husband's choice to push me away
Jun 7 - 6PM
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dabussard

Realize that right now you aren't thinking clearly, your brain is mush. I think I'm going to tell people i was abducted by aliens for the last 12 years cause that's what it feels like! It wasn't me sitting there silently when I was being verbally assaulted and then going back for more time and time again. Seriously though,think about what you are doing risking everything you have that is honorable for someone so dark. The situation with you and the N will only continue this mass confusion in your life and you will never be at peace until you lay it to rest. Best Wishes, Ruby
Jun 7 - 6PM
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I think she is 100%

I think she is 100% correct. I also think you could have called me and I would have told you the same thing. :) I'm free of charge too. Look, she is a professional and spot on. DO what she says. If you have cancer would you take the cure of let it pass you by? Keep going, read,stay here and NCNCNCNC. Hunter
Jun 7 - 6PM
adoette
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Choose not at all

"...if I don't jump when he says jump, I will be punished for it. I have to go immediately or just not at all." Choose not at all. Lay down on the ground. Eat a bowl of ice cream. Watch a stupid show. Go on a walk. Take a bath. Hit a pillow. Cry. Scream. Come to this board. Someone will be here to help you breathe through it. (I know, cause they've been there for me.) Do ANYTHING to keep you from responding to him. ANYTHING. You have been on a roller coaster and what you describe are symptoms of an addiction. The haze WILL clear, but the withdrawal period is long and brutal. Be strong, dabussard. You are moving in the right direction, meeting with a therapist and knowing on one level that you do not want to lose all the good things you've been blessed with. You are not alone. Many of us on this site were sucked into an affair. Now it is up to us to pick up the pieces, be brave, and move on. (((hugs))) We've all been there. We're here for you.
Jun 7 - 5PM
onwithmylife
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dabussard

You are so new to this board and need to give yourself time to heal, I have been over 2 1/2 year out and only now feel like I am cutting the shackles of this man from my mind and soul, even though just recently I had another dream about him, but it was not an anguished dream a more peaceful one.Ask your therapist how to wrap your head around the fact you are just an object to him, he has not, and will not ever love you, in the way we want to be loved, you are only an object to him, a chair, toaster, table, that is all. He cares for no one but himself, if you decide to leave your husband, only do it for you, not for the narc, because I can almost guarantee he will drop you at some point, it is the nature of the beast, their personality disorder, and he would like nothing more than to destroy you, Michele wrote that very thing. I know my narc wanted my money and would have taken me down to get it, if I had married him, that i know..Make YOUR decision, wisely and slowly and get as much therapy as you can, you owe it to yourself............NEVER
Jun 7 - 6PM (Reply to #7)
dabussard
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onwithmylife

I do believe you are right... Once he gets my husband to leave, then he has won... It will be game over... I will be left with a 200 acre farm and no one to help me run it... He has promised to help me, but one of the times that my husband left for about 10 days... One of the tractors would not start for me to put a round bale of hay out. His response was call your neighbor, I am not setting foot on that property until your husband is gone for good.. It totally shocked me... Can't believe I even care about such a person..
Jun 7 - 6PM (Reply to #8)
onwithmylife
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dabussard

The last part of my post got cut off, i started to say NEVER give yourself away for any MAN, that is what my dear mom use to say and she is right. If you and your husband have a sexless marriage and cannot work it out, then get out if the counseling doesn't work and then spent time with yourself and let the narc go to Hell because with him, you will find yourself there...............You need you see it is all a fun game to him, he cares nothing for you or what your emotions and feelings are..STEP back from yourself, be an impartial observer, it will help you figure it all out.
Jun 7 - 6PM (Reply to #9)
dabussard
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onwithmylife

I used to say "who needs men when there are horses"... I think I need to staple this to my forehead... lol.. Cause your mom is so right... That is what makes me so damn mad is my weakness to him... No man has EVER done this to me before... Horses have always ruled...lol..
Jun 7 - 7PM (Reply to #10)
onwithmylife
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dabussard

I have never suffered from any addictive personality, never and this was the first time i had a total OBSESSION with the man and like an addiction, you must fight through this, there is NO easy way out, i have to tell you, get on your horse and go for rides and clear you mind, let it all settle as you step out of yourself and enjoy the solitude of you and your horse. there is no easy way out but you will get out from the hold of the narcissist.
Jun 7 - 5PM
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debussard

"She said he is all about control and manipulation.. If that's the case and he wants control of me, then why does he go days and weeks without contacting me? He can't control me without contact." Oh, but really he IS controlling you, is he not? You obsess over him wether you hear from him or not. You panic when he gives you the silent treatment. You jump if he calls. If that's not control I don't know what is. You say you are "helpless." I'm sorry but I call Bullshit on that. Not to be mean, but to snap you out of it. You probably have a good grip on everything else in your life, but not this. This man does not control you. Your obsession does. He's not the Gestapo, or doesnt do Jedi mind tricks. He cannot physically MAKE you do anything you don't want to do. You gave your self-control over to him. Take it back, now, before you do lose everything you have in your life that is REAL.....for an mere ILLUSION that is not.
Jun 7 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
dabussard
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shaynasMommy

You are so right... How can I give everything up for an illusion. Because that is what will Happen... I will lose everything...But, this illusion goes back 20 years to my crush in high school. It's like he has been out of my reach my whole life... I think that's the addiction... I want what I have ever been truely able to have... Now I am a puppet on a string and he knows it.. I will take scraps and deal with the consciences..
Jun 7 - 6PM (Reply to #5)
Redhead1
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He is just playing games and

He is just playing games and has been for 20 yrs. Once he WINS you away from your husband-game over. Be smarter than him. Shut the game down yourself. Once you figure out how they work, you will not be controlled by him no more. He will really make you sick. Its all a game to them!! Be strong and do something good for yourself. Quit letting him control you.
Jun 7 - 6PM (Reply to #3)
adoette
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You deserve more

Cut the strings and spit on the scraps. You deserve freedom and the finest quality nourishment. His toxic crumbs are killing you. You deserve so much more!! Watch this video...it is haunting. Anything but Down by Sheryl Crow (Courtesy of Smitten Kitten) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJqmyOeOnWk
Jun 7 - 6PM (Reply to #4)
dabussard
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Adoette

Oh my, that is so me right now! Very disturbing... But thank you are posting... I need that right now!!