my N talks to himself nonstop ???

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#1 Nov 23 - 3PM
fooled no longer
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my N talks to himself nonstop ???

My Narc talks to himself all the time when driving, walking etc. just like his mother does. He shakes his head and growls and sneers while he's having these endless convos under his breath. If u call him on it. He stops, then off again within minutes. did I say just like his mother who stands at the kitchen sink and has arguments with herself.

Nov 24 - 5AM
blueeyes
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LMAO

I missed this yesterday! DAM! Hilarious! I'm jealous that your N's could talk! Mine mumbled absurd statements incorrectly and out of order. It was hell in the end but so funny too! I cannot remember if he talked to himself, sheesh and he just moved out a month a go.
Nov 23 - 9PM
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Think so

I think mine did alot... But secretly. He'd rehash convos from a party or wherever that he didn't like the way they went. He admitted this to me once, but I only heard them when he didn't know I was there ( shower, etc.)
Nov 23 - 8PM
truthseeker
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fnl

mine did talk to himself , not alot though. he did pick his nose nonstop though. he had a bulbous honker too, probably from all the pickin and drinkin
Nov 23 - 4PM
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You mean... like Gollum? In

You mean... like Gollum? In Lord of the Rings? Does he wants his precious?
Nov 23 - 8PM (Reply to #15)
Briseis
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We could call Truthseeker's

We could call Truthseeker's exNarc "Lord of the Finger" or "Gollum" . . .
Nov 23 - 4PM
onwithmylife
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foolednolonger

My EXNArc talked to himself only once that I can remember and it was horrible, i was in the other room and i hear him talking and thought who could be in there with him, he was cursing himself out loud, saying"dumb,stupid,rotten...", that was scary and i believe comes from deep within him when his mother must have scolded him as a little boy, that is what it sounded like and I never called him on it, which I should have done.
Nov 23 - 4PM (Reply to #9)
Briseis
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Why my dear? And have him

Why my dear? And have him turn that rage onto you? Ever poked a hornet's nest on a warm sunny day :D ?? You were smart to not call him on it! You listened to your gut and kept your mouth shut. I hope you don't feel guilty for not calling him on it. I can understand how you would . . . but with what you understand about him NOW, honestly, what good would it have done? To point out he cursed himself the way his mother cursed him? As a Narc, he couldn't have "understood" such a concept, they are emotionally four years old. I used to explain my Narc to himself all the time. I had his issues nicely figured out. Sometimes he would agree with me (when hoovering) and the rest of the time it insulted him in SPITE of how kindly and compassionately I expressed myself. It was like trying to explain nuclear physics to a goose. And just as annoying to the goose :D
Nov 23 - 5PM (Reply to #10)
onwithmylife
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Briseis

YOU are a very wise woman and i am too gullible!
Nov 23 - 8PM (Reply to #11)
Briseis
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It takes one to know one

It takes one to know one ((((onwithmylife :D ))))) Didn't you know gullability becomes wisdom?
Nov 23 - 8PM (Reply to #12)
onwithmylife
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Briseis

I hope the wisdom comes through before my 80th birthday!!
Nov 23 - 8PM (Reply to #13)
Briseis
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How old are you, 79 and a

How old are you, 79 and a half? :D
Nov 23 - 4PM
Briseis
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Your Narc is an effing

Your Narc is an effing looney tune. He scares me just to read about him and I've never met him, or you. In part this is my old psych nurse experience. Everyone talks to themselves, some more than others. But there is a line beyond which it is not NORMAL. Everyone can and does respond to a vivid thought or feeling by speaking out loud. If your Narc snarls and has back and forth conversations with himself in FRONT of other people, this tells me his internal stimuli is so VIVID and arresting that he loses contact with the reality around him. That is scary shit. That is profound autism (a characteristic of psychosis, meaning abnormal self focus). People like this are extremely unpredictable and do not have "normal" stops in what they are willing to do to keep control of whatever they fear losing control OF. Unless you know for sure your Narc has never been hospitalized, in your shoes, I'd be nervous as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs. That his mother does it too is only a testament to the inheritability of mental illness.
Nov 23 - 5PM (Reply to #7)
Susan32
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Autism and psychopathology

The ex-Psych professor was the same way. He DID have a history of mental illness, and had stayed in a psych ward as a child. His biggest fear was of his mental history being revealed and mocked... and he did get into dialogues with himself. He was very much out of touch with reality. During the Q&A session after his lecture my freshman year, he flew into such a rage that my classmates were wondering where the nearest straitjacket was. Autistics and psychopaths have similar brains- the latter are malicious and lack conscience. MOST autistic people have consciences and want to fit into society. The ex-P was extremely afraid of being hospitalized again. One of his favorite novels, "Confederacy of Dunces" (the main character is obese, narcissistic, lives with his mother) ends with the lead, Ignatius Reilly, being hauled off to an insane asylum.
Nov 23 - 5PM (Reply to #2)
fooled no longer
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no hes never been

no hes never been hospitalised. I really think there was transference if his mothers Narc behavior onto him. I keep asking where was this person during the good times we had, and we had a lot. how is it he could he function undetected in the world? The answer I made up for his lack of personality. Hes a damb good actor, he told me his exparents in law loved him as the best. and never wanted the divorce and I believe him. i think an overinvoled, idolizing Narc mother told possesion of him very early on and this unresolved fight to establish himself rages on. Im the most even sensible person you could meet, the polar opposite of him. loyal, and determined. my lifetime friends find me caring and real.
Nov 23 - 8PM (Reply to #4)
Briseis
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FNL

Im the most even sensible person you could meet, the polar opposite of him. loyal, and determined. my lifetime friends find me caring and real. The perfectly complimentary shape to fit right into him. You are everything he needs to be to be a normal person. Isn't this the story of us all :( . A hostile buy-out on a personal level instead of a corporate one :(
Nov 24 - 5AM (Reply to #5)
Lauren
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Hostile takeover

Don't you mean a hostile takeover? I wasn't 'bought out' because I didn't sell myself to him, he stole myself from me. And for those of you who don't know my story, I was the OW, but through no fault of my own. I was engaged to be married to a man who was already married, and I never had a clue and neither did his wife. He works in an industry where he would often be in new locations for months and months at a time. I beat myself up over it for a long time, until I finally found a competent well educated therapist who has told me repeatedly that the victims of Narcissists and Psychopaths are in no way to blame for the behavior of their abusers. Although some victims of these creatures may indeed have issues of their own, those issues are in no way related to having been victimized by a predator. Predators seek out the good traits in a victim, not the bad. I wish everyone on here would realize this very simple truth and stop dissecting themselves looking for the 'problem' that attracted the predator.
Nov 24 - 6AM (Reply to #6)
fooled no longer
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Hostile takeover

What wise words Lauren I knew right from the begining that I was to fill the holes he had in his personality becayse he spoke the truth for once unknowingly about himself. " i need to feel emotions that I havent felt for a long time. ( No kidding! how about ever) And to be joined to someone can bring meaning to my life. I mistook these to be the lonliness if a sensitive person who was trapped in a bad marriage for years and was now free. Theres always a grain of truth to everything they say, that way they can always claim, but I told you! NO NARC what you did with that grain of truth, was set me out sniffing for the rest of the picture, what I didnt know was there was no picture because you are just a fragment. And those bits of truth act like baited hooks to me, a lifelong seeker of truth. You will face your maker one day in the eyes of my children and they will be to you the eyes of God, and this time your lack of concience wont save you!
Nov 23 - 5PM (Reply to #3)
onwithmylife
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foolednolonger

He must be the carbon copy to my EXNar, the same over involvement with his mother rages inside him, well put your words. His mother smothered,doted on him and he never got a chance to separate from her apron strings, his mother was a narc too. He is still in the 2 year old phase in a grown man's body, how sad........He had photos of her everywhere and never one of me, I was relegated to the photo album. and half the time was called a "lady friend," this after 15 years. He never knew women at all, only how to be a good lover, that was all.