More or less why I debunk the Co-dependency movement.

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#1 Mar 22 - 4PM
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More or less why I debunk the Co-dependency movement.

http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=3007

I was going to write something, but I'd have to write an encyclopedia on this covering every flaw and I am not engaged in a dissertation *at least not at this time.

Again, this article I think very accurately explains why we need to be very aware and not look for the quick fix...not attach a label to ourselves and not re-victimize ourselves.

Understand or know whether we are *sick* co-dependent or just very altruistic as a result of society and re-conditioning.

The co-dependency model I believe can very well finding us in a sense going too far the other way...adapting in a sense narcissistic behaviors...

This woman is obviously engaged in a theological exploiration as well...you can easily however, substitute her "religious" jargon with whatever spiritual laws you follow.

The article in whole is I believe a very good "examination" it asks questions. Yes, she has a point of view BUT her questioning I believe will allow anyone to further investigate if their ideas on co-dependency are still accurate for them *this is a personal journey* or if they need to continue searching.

I am very skeptical of guru's...and I have witnessed the vast amount of people under the "guise" of help that essentially have their own ego's and personal self interests at heart.

The reason why I have stayed loyal to this board is because as a whole, I feel an openess, a support, and clear evidence of "NON-exploitation" that makes me very comfortable to be myself and heal...I've trolled many a support forum...hundreds maybe...and this is where I feel most at home.

Regardless of where you are, and what you believe...I do believe as we continue to search we all will find our truth.

Hugs...

Mar 22 - 7PM
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So does this mean we don't

So does this mean we don't call narcs narcs? I mean they have symptoms and we know what it is it called narcissism. So if you have the symptoms of codependency do we not call it codependency simply because it might hurts someones feelings. I would suggest that someone would need to figure out why it hurt their feelings What is all the nonsense about fault? When someone is diagnosed with cancer is it their fault? Nope. Does anyone like being diagnosed with cancer? Nope. Infact many go thru a period of denial but at the end of the day they still have cancer its effecting their life and it needs to be treated. The use of the word fault would suggest a shame element
Mar 22 - 4PM
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Michelle115

Here is a VERY simple lol analogy that explains why I "debunk" codependency: Victim Blaming, Codependency, and the Analogy Here's how I view this idea that wounds I brought into my relationship are "my fault". Let's say when I was three I fell down some stairs and broke my leg. And let's say that I fell down those stairs because someone bigger than me, someone who was supposed to care for and protect me, pushed me. Let's also say that as a three year old I couldn't get myself to a hospital and no one brought me so my leg never healed right leaving me with a bum leg that I could eventually walk on, but not quite right. In fact, my whole skeletal structure became compromised because I had to favor one leg over the other causing all sorts of other things to get thrown out of alignment. Back problems, neck problems, muscle problems, etc. But I learned to live with it, and I was functional as best I could be. Years later I meet a man who loves my quirky crookedness and we fall in love. He is kind. He is attentive. He makes me feel good. But then things start going a little awry. Then one day, with not a whole lot of warning, man walks up to me with a baseball bat and nails me on the bum leg, breaking it again. So I've got a broken leg, a re-broken leg, and I go to the hospital. Here are two possible scenarios. 1. At the ER the doctor takes some x-rays and comes back to tell me what's what. "You've got a pretty hefty fracture and we're going to have to set the leg and then put a cast on. After 8 weeks in the cast I'm going to want you to do some physical therapy. What I'm concerned with is that you also appear to have an old fracture that didn't heal right, and we're going to have to fix that too. The good news is that the new fracture is on the same line, so by fixing the new fracture, and with intense therapy, you'll be almost as good as new, in fact better than you have been for years. I'm sorry this happened to you. We'll give you something for the pain for a few days, and after that the pain will be bearable enough for you to handle on your own, but you'll be coming in for regular check-ups so we can be sure you're healing properly this time. Also, I think you might benefit from a self-defense class so that once you're healed you'll have a much better chance of keeping yourself safe from harm. Good luck and we'll see you in two weeks." Yay! 2. At the ER the doctor takes some x-rays and comes back to tell me what's what. "You've got an old fracture and that's what caused this new one, so really it's your fault that your leg is broken. As for the pain you're feeling, that's also your fault. Clearly you are focusing on the pain too much and if you could just detach from it you'd realize there's really nothing to fuss about. You're bringing up your old pain and that's simply not the correct way to go about this. You say you were hit with a baseball bat? Obviously you put yourself in a situation to get your leg broken again because you're addicted to getting your leg broken. Look at how many times this has happened to you? Given your history, it's likely your leg is always going to be getting broken, but if you learn to realize that the pain your feeling is just wrong thinking, and as long as you go to a support group for the rest of your life, you'll be able to learn how to not worry or feel pain when your leg is broken. We good here?" http://mamabp.blogspot.com/2010/11/victim-blaming-codependency-and-analogy.html
Mar 22 - 4PM
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I need to clarify and can't edit...

Understand or know whether we are *sick* co-dependent or just very altruistic as a result of society and re-conditioning. What I mean by this is that we need to make the distinction for ourselves...and ask..is this a truth...am I sick...am I flawed for caring, and being interdependent or is there something greater and significantly wrong with me? I don't think so and I think that when we examine that this codependency theory was given rise to dealing with ADDICTS and yes, we say narcs are addicts...there are so many other dynamics that I think real though, real work, real resarch needs to be done. I find a lot of blame shifting and covert enabling techniques being pumped in some of these movements even unaware...somehow WE own the BLAME? We did something wrong? NO...examine altruisticly if you are in the right place...and take it from there... There is manipulation all around us...the Narcs didn't invent it. The power of suggestion, and even "Propaganda" runs very deep in our world...