Life With a Narc = The Emotional Depth of a One Night Stand

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#1 Nov 26 - 11PM
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Life With a Narc = The Emotional Depth of a One Night Stand

LOL! I posted an email I wrote to the exNarc last December and it's a really long read...I don't expect many to read it, but it is fascinating to me. Thought someone out there in forum land might just be bored enough to read it...

Anyway, there's a passage in the email where I refer to our entire relationship as being the longest one night stand in recorded history...lmaoooo! I've even said that to him, post email draft, it was just that profound an analogy to me. I came up with that one all on my own too! He didn't like the sounds of that statement...I guess being devalued is a problem for them, yes?

I was with him for 7 years...some here have far more time invested, some less. But if you really think about your entire relationship, didn't it really seem like you were living with a one night stand? Everything's awkward, you feel like you've only scratched the surface of who they are and you wonder how long you will be in their life, if at all? Bitch could have at least had the decency to take me to breakfast....just sayin'.

Nov 28 - 7AM
empath
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syren

Love how you ended this: " Bitch could have at least had the decency to take me to breakfast....just sayin'." You know what breakfast would have been, right? Scrambled eggs!
Nov 28 - 7AM (Reply to #39)
Syren66 (not verified)
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hahahaha! Perfecto!

hahahaha! Perfecto!
Nov 27 - 10PM
a65703
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Pretty much. That's why I

Pretty much. That's why I truly believe that the N I dated liked to hook up and have one night stands just for the trill that OH THIS GIRL THINKS I AM HOT AND WANTS TO SLEEP WITH ME - the ultimate ego boost and NS that will literally make his week - in addition to have a constant flow of NS (I believe having a girlfriend who is guaranteed supply is preferred for the N but of course he wants his cake and eat it too). Apparently from what I have gained from my N Ex (he told me a lot of incriminating things about himself...I guess when he was drunk or whatever *eyeroll*), several escapades (I believe WOMEN with good "asshole radar" and keen sense of a fakery) saw right through him after a hookup or whatever and never saw him again, (baring other "small" factors of course). But HA! The Narcissist has no substance. I think I have obtained that important "asshole" radar to better screen potential N's and stay away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 27 - 10PM
IncognitoBurrito
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I dunno

I prefer to think that we were both just the same kind of f%$#@^ up. Any way you slice it, it was disastrous. Somebody had to go. Omg, imagine that. I picked me. Call it selfish, see if I care. :o)
Nov 27 - 5PM
Syren66 (not verified)
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To lend even more brevity to

To lend even more brevity to the terminology...don't even think of the relationship as a "one-night stand"...just simply refer to yourself as "it". That is how he viewed you. That sucks and you deserve a whole lot more than that ladies/gents! xoxo
Nov 27 - 10AM
Redhead
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Money

HELL - we very seldom had sex & he was taking money from me!! Guess I was paying him for sex & companionship....and he was lousy at both!!
Nov 27 - 12PM (Reply to #34)
Syren66 (not verified)
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Well not only did the

Well not only did the relationship feel like a one-night stand, he was also a cop on top of it all...I always felt like Jane Q. Public...just a face in the crowd to him. The reason I felt that way was because, well....I WAS.
Nov 27 - 9AM
Susan32
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I always joked...

That the ex-Psych prof wasn't worth a no-strings-attached, unemotional, solely sexual one night stand! In some ways, it was an insult... that he wasn't even worth THAT (however, I deemed Colin Firth worthy of said one night stand, LOL) A sexual one night stand would've been wasted with the ex-P. Since my relationship with the ex-P was purely emotional&intellectual (it never got sexual), it did have the depth of a one-night stand. I never got to know the ex-P... and he never got to know me. One of my friends consoled me during the final D&D, saying, "He's not rejecting the REAL You. He doesn't know the REAL you." So, when the ex-P would say he was rejecting me because of my role as a student, not because of how I am as a person, he was actually being truthful(??) My friends would say I was a different person around them than when I was with him. I'd be smiling, joking, happy around them... with him, I became glum, solemn, scared. I wasn't allowed to be happy around him. Most Ns can't stand grief&difficulties, fleeing from them... but the ex-P couldn't stand seeing me happy. About anything. The ex-P made sure there was NEVER common ground. Common ground grows relationships. Common interests. The ex-P would show interest in Oregon (his colleague with whom he shared an office was from there too)-yet if I showed interest in the ex-P's home state of Massachusetts, he'd discourage me, call it the Land of Neurotic Puritans, go on and on and on about how it was a gloomy, depressing place. He loved "War and Peace." Still does. I got a copy of "War and Peace"-and since it was the same translation/edition as his... he blanched. Again, he'd discourage me. Whenever I tried to make common ground, he'd accuse me of faking, or simply discourage. His favorite Wittgenstein quote was that he was prostituting his intellect by talking to intelligent people. He'd often compare himself to a prostitute, albeit of the philosophical kind. He saw teaching as nothing but a way to make money. And also because his father was a professor.
Nov 27 - 5AM
Winter
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Brilliant! I can relate fully and without condition!

I am speechless! That's EXACTLY how I felt , that's EXACTLY what hurted and still hurt me. How do you deal with it? Love Winter
Nov 27 - 5AM (Reply to #26)
Syren66 (not verified)
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Well I guess the "one night

Well I guess the "one night stand" analogy puts a more visual spin on the statement that "you never mattered to him". When you compare the relationship to any one night stand you've had, you see the instant parallels and it's one of those light bulb moments...at least, it was for me, once I properly pegged what was nagging at me about his lack of commitment over the course of 7 years. This is how I deal with it...I treat him as if I would any other one-night stand...all full of grandiose blathering for about the first 2 hours upon first meeting, only with the narc, it was 2 months or so...then on to the meaningless sex...only with the narc, it went on for years...sex without any real attachment. And then the end..."I'll call you" = "don't ever expect to hear from me again". Seeing it in those terms was actually one of the pivotal moments that started to catapult me out of the post-narc fog. My obsessive need to get to the guts of a problem has led me to some of these realizations...some in a good way, some in not so good ways...but at least my eyes are open now. And that's ALL good! :)
Nov 27 - 5AM (Reply to #27)
Winter
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I never had one night stand ...

Not because I am againts it in principle, but because I can anticipate the emptiness I will feel after. And I think that is the only thing I cannot let go....I don't want him, I don't miss him, I don't let him to suck me back with his hoover attempts and narc attacks. I am not in love with him anymore. But Syren! How can I overcome the 2.5 year long one night stand? If I can process this one, I think I will be absolutely healed. Will I ever? Oh...well...anyway, feel like crying... Love Winter
Nov 27 - 6AM (Reply to #28)
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Winter

Well, yeah, you have had a one-night stand...it was 2.5 years with a narc. That's exactly the same empty feeling that comes from a one-night stand. I've had both...take my word for it...there's zero difference. I was talking with my therapist about this quandary last week...I told her that I felt I was sold a bill of goods by a snake oil salesman...her reply was..."he couldn't have sold whatever he was selling if he didn't have a willing buyer". In essence, what she was saying was...this is not about him...it's about us. It's about what is inside of us that draws these types to us and what draws us to them. But even more importantly, imo...is the looming loaded question...why did we stay when every fiber of our being was telling us to RUN!!!! ? Another way of looking at what she said was..."stop playing victim and own your decisions that led you down this path to begin with". It wasn't easy to hear this...and all it entailed...but it's necessary to keep us on a road to greater self-awareness instead of mired in the "poor me" mentality that lands us in ruts for months on end. Once we figure out who we really are, and what we really want/don't want, what motive some jagoff from a previous relationship had where you were concerned will cease to matter. You will be emotionally beyond him and "it" at that point. Keep doing the work, keep analyzing yourself, not him...and I promise the likes of that reptile will never get through your defenses again. xoxo
Nov 28 - 8AM (Reply to #31)
onwithmylife
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Syren66

for me when i took a cold hard look at myself, it was a huge void in my life he filled, had no family around, a few friends that was it, we did many things together, loved his family and visa versa, it was a family I missed so much and had none around me, my marriage was gone, older child moved away, i was left with nothing.....For me that is why i stayed for 15 years till he dumped me, i wanted things to work out so much......never again........nomoredenial said the analogy of one foot in and one foot out for the narc, i felt the exact same thing............
Nov 27 - 6AM (Reply to #29)
Winter
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Thanks Syren!

I know what you mean and I think the approach of owing the responsibility is a very good one. I stopped analysing him long time ago. I do analyse myself. Myself and life in general... I feel like I am taking too much attention from your topic to my own issues. It is just that you really touched and verbalised so well my deep pain. I think I will start another topic expressing what I want to express. Your opinion is very important to me. Thank you again :) Love Winter
Nov 27 - 11AM (Reply to #30)
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I love that this resonates

I love that this resonates with people. Making sense of it all is so much the quest we're on...breaking it down into pieces that most can relate to helps a lot...I've been doing that for myself for many months and I do believe it's helped me...if it helps you too, all the better! I read a lot on the internet, but find that I'm reaching the point of critical mass; in that I am growing bored with the same stuff out there being repeated over and over again...it's one thing to post information, quite another to communicate with your intended audience...lots of nuggets out there, but you have to wade through a lot of b.s. to get to them. So much of what we're experiencing is intangible...that is why it's so hard to explain it to people who have never walked a mile (or who have but don't realize they too were with a narc)...they can't relate and we can't explain it in a way where they could. Try the one-night stand analysis and watch their reaction...EVERYbody understands that concept. Only, top it off with something like..."the only difference between my 2.5 years with (douchewad) and an actual one-night stand, is that a one-night stand is FUN".
Nov 27 - 12AM
nomoredenial
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YUP

That describes it so well. Even though I say I didnt know anything was wrong, the feeling I had and often said for a good part of the 14 years was that he had one foot in and one foot out. Sometimes I feel so damn pissed off that I wasted so much time. But the gift in the end is myself
Nov 26 - 11PM
Sea
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Good one Syren! End of day

Good one Syren! End of day there's so little between me and narcky. He has so many ow, spreading himself so thin. And put his mum in the equation. The rests are meaningless. Just like ONS, wakeup bid farewell and move on.
Nov 26 - 11PM
Gaia
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first smile of the day!

Woohoo!! That was fun, you made me smile today Syren ;) THANK YOU! I love your analogy, and its pretty dead on. Its funny, I remember saying to xN once..If all you wanted was a play thing, booty call, why not just say so! i might have obliged, but NOOOOO he had to throw the whole " I am in love with you my dearest soul mate, I want everything with you" Like some silly fantasy from a Hollywood movie. WHY WHY WHYYYY!!!?? ARGG. I was just fine in my own little world, not commiting to men, etc.. He D&D me once, 7 years ago, because I didnt want to be SO serious,.... then he D&D me AGAIN (recently) saying , I am too clingy, and abusive???,.....SAY WHA fool? There was no right way, and when I suggested being just a non-serious fling, he flipped his lid. What a head screw.
Nov 26 - 11PM
freaked
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a Kafkaesque ONS

YESSSSSSSSSSSS.. what a fitting analogy! In fact, couple years ago I got a weird suspicion in my head that NH gave me some measly pocket money after the weekly hump. YOWWWWWL... it was just a niggling thought, certainly not what a wife should ever get into her head..still..it veered it's head up ..and i did some obvious experimentation and got the obvious statistics.. and a year later when i signed out of the marital bed...the pocket money mysteriously stopped...and for some months I was thrown some impossible excuses... 1.wallet was stolen, 2. his bank did not have money balance and so he could not draw small amounts..as they permitted only massive withdrawals... (can it get more incredible than this?) well...again to cut a long story short, eventually I reached this Forum a few months after i made my personal, unaided decision to stop selling my soul.
Nov 26 - 11PM (Reply to #2)
Gaia
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I was a paid 8 year hooker..

Hello Freaked, I wanted to comment to you too, because you brought up an interesting thought for me, i always felt like some paid hooker. He would literally give me money after the deed, and I laughed and joke with him saying, "Was that for tonight"??..lol, his answer was oh no, I just want you to have money for bills, or buy yourself something nice. ( Now why did I feel like Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman?) Seriously, I felt in my gut he was doing this, but couldnt prove it to him. Literally we were selling our souls!
Nov 27 - 2AM (Reply to #19)
freaked
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savegaia, we got tricked into

savegaia, we got tricked into this rubbish...now that we are wise to the truth, let us thank the Lord for bailing us out in one piece. a narc is not human.. hence we encounter a difficulty when we attempt to psychoanalyze a vibrator or any other sex toy !! LOL
Nov 27 - 5AM (Reply to #21)
Winter
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LOL Freaked

Psychoanalyse a vibrator. So funny... you are so right: lost case.
Nov 27 - 2AM (Reply to #20)
Gaia
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freaked :)

A vibrator or sex toy is wayyyyy better than the narc alien life form! ;) At least the sex toys, you KNOW they are plastic and dont have to guess. HUGS!
Nov 26 - 11PM (Reply to #3)
Syren66 (not verified)
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Sometimes he'd give me cash

Sometimes he'd give me cash to go git mah nails did...of course I took it...and even took a shitload more he wasn't aware of (I felt my services were worth more, frankly). You're gonna treat me like a ho, pay the going fuckin' rate at least.
Nov 26 - 11PM (Reply to #4)
Amiee
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Thank you for the laugh!!!

Thank you for the laugh!!! you are so right, get everything you can we earned it!
Nov 26 - 11PM (Reply to #5)
Syren66 (not verified)
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Yah, treat me like shit, then

Yah, treat me like shit, then ya better find a better hiding place for your money clip, cause I'm gonna clean you out! :D
Nov 27 - 12AM (Reply to #6)
Gaia
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Damn..

I didnt get enough in the end :( PFFT!! I do have his expensive tools here, ahhh Ebay here I come ;)
Nov 27 - 12AM (Reply to #7)
Syren66 (not verified)
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yep, the diamond/platinum

yep, the diamond/platinum earrings are being taken down to the diamond district to be appraised/sold. He's going to be sponsoring my trip to Maryland for the tournament I plan to attend in February...I'm going to have a t-shirt made that says "Sponsored by CPD" (Chicago Police Dept)....LMFAO!
Nov 27 - 12AM (Reply to #8)
nomoredenial
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Im curious

I hear about the madonna/ho complex is that what that is? That's tacky...I guess better to be paid for it than it taken from you in your sleep.
Nov 27 - 2AM (Reply to #17)
freaked
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nomoredenial,...

imho this is not exactly the madonna/ho thing going on. see, i will unabashedly admit that i will always remain pure as the driven snow, a madonna. BUT the nh treated me alternatively like a whore / chambermaid. a sort of scullery maid...that's what was my unofficial job description..and sad to say, i happen to be his legally wedded wife.