The lies they tell and dont make sense

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#1 Feb 23 - 11AM
cristina
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The lies they tell and dont make sense

I understand N wear their mask and love manipulating.I understand they want to be seen like they are perfect.Which leads me to my question:when you try to be seen as perfect and deceive people,wouldnt it make sense that you will tell lies that would make sense?Ill give an example.The ex N was in the Air Force,the OW brother was also in the Army,so in order to deceive,common sense would tell you to not lie about your period while serving right?I mean because her brother would catch you in the lies,as he knows about the military,right?But what does smart ass N do?He dissapeared and told them he got deployed in just 1 day and then after 10 days he told them he got sent home because of broken ribbs.LOL i mean can you imagine?Of course her brother knew it couldnt be true but OW still believed him in her naivite.So why do they lie recklessly like that?Do they really think people will believe those crappy lies?Wouldnt they think"oh man,her brother was military so he knows about deployments and all,better not lie about that if I want to earn their trust"

Feb 24 - 11PM
loveofmylife
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Pathological Lying - People raise from the dead!

I'm 47 and have never had the need to use the phrase "pathological liar" until I realized my N was an Narc/Psychopath. They lie about everything = it doesn't matter what. But the lie that made me realize that he was a psychopath was this one: Anyone here on linkedin? Well, one day, N's brother in law showed up on my linkedin as someone I might know. It was the creepiest feeling because BIL "died" 2 years earlier. And I thought "wow, how creepy. I guess once you die, there is no one there to delete your linkedin profile, so you float around in hyperspace forever". Well, I clicked on the profile - there were recent job postings. Freaked me out - I looked him up on facebook - same thing - recent pictures! 2 years earlier, N had called me all "upset" - we talked for hours on the phone about how BIL had died - it was very tragic. Narc told me all of the sad details. But Narc told me what a great big brother he was and how he was going to take care of (financially) the 4 young daughters he left behind. And then the next week, he had to cancel a date since he was going to his BIL's "funeral". And y'all - this isn't coming out of the month of some creepy, spooky looking psychopath. This is coming from the mouth of an incredibly gorgeous and fit man who has been CEO at many great companies. It is very spooky how they can hide like this - and we get blind-sided by it!
Feb 24 - 12PM
Recovering Suzie
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why tell a small lie when they can tell a big one?

My NH out of state OW thought he was delployed for their entire 18 month relationship; all the while he was living a big fat lie with me. He bought that poor woman and engagement ring and had her hire a realtor and start looking for the house they would live in when he returned from Iraq and they were married. Forgot to tell her about his wife, and his military committment in another State. He never gave a thought to what would happen to her in the long run. They are like gold fish; other people only exist when they are directly interacting with them. Otherwise, they are just dolls on a shelf, waiting to be taken down and played with when the N get bored or lonely. SA
Feb 23 - 1PM
Jar of hearts
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Yep

They don't seem to think through what crap comes out of their mouths! Mine tried to tell me that he didn't get someone pregnant while still married to exW even though I presented him with the dates everything happened! He tried to tell me I wasn't adding 9 months correctly!! In between his lies he actually mocked me with what he was about to do to me I thought he was joking!!! I called him out on so many lies and the more I did the nastier he got Xx
Feb 23 - 12PM
Hunter
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You are treating this as if

You are treating this as if you are dealing with normal .. He's not normal.. They lie because they live in a grandiose fantasy world..they lie so much it becomes their truth. Remember OJ Simpson.. Did he kill Nicole?. Hunter
Feb 23 - 1PM (Reply to #16)
mystwoman
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So true, Hunter. They're not

So true, Hunter. They're not normal. Xnh has told so many lies that I really don't think he even KNOWS the difference between the truth and lies any longer. He couldn't possibly keep track of all the lies he's told. Xnh will take that grandiose, fantasy world of his, rewrite history whenever it suits him (which is very often), and off he goes again with the new fictional version. Meanwhile, he expects everyone else to "forget" any previous lies he's told, and we are all expected to just believe every new pile of crap that pours out of his mouth. No questions asked. lol.

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Feb 23 - 12PM
Healingslowly_b...
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Oooh the lies

Mine lied about everything. His past, his money situation, his friends, his work...everything. As I gradually found everything out he turned into Mr Nasty. Do you know what? If he had been honest with me from the start about the fact that he had nothing then I probably would have loved him just the same. Sad little man. It still amazes me now as I remember things he lied about. I remembered the other day about a time when he took me round massive houses that were for sale and told me that one of them would be our home when we moved. The truth is that we sold my house, moved, rented a house (only for a year so that we could find our dream house -yeah yeah yawn!!!) and then I found out about his massive debts and the lies about his business. Result.....no nice home of our own, I live in rented now and he lives in a new batchelor pad in the centre of the city, living the good life and he moved me away from everything I knew. These guys are vile!! and.....relax. Big hug xxx
Feb 23 - 12PM
sexy72
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OMG my EX Narc BF tells the same type of huge lies!

OMG my EX Narc told me dandy tangled webs of lies too and I called him on them more and more, especially after we broke up! He would still lie and that is when I started dropping bombs on his life! It was great! He still had the nerve to tell me he was having surgery the Friday before Christmas to remove a tumor between his shoulder blade and left lung. He was back to work the Monday after Christmas doing paper work, because he emailed me, and back to work doing adjustment the next day! He is a Chiropractor, you wouldn't be able to do that! I researched it even online and someone is out of work for 6 to 8 weeks min.! My gf didn't believe his story so she called his office to make an apt. with him for that Tuesday and would have had no problem getting in! That's how we found out for sure! He told me he was first starting back that Thurday, but it was still to soon! When I question him, he said he had a long day and was going home for the day, that he had over done it. The following week he told me he had a needle biopsy and I asked why, when you just had surgery. In one hours time from his office he emailed me to make me feel bad and said "Thanks for your concern!" when I hadn't emailed him back yet...I told him I had texted him because I had thought he was at his apt., but anyways in that hours time he emailed me, drove to the apt., had the biopsy with general anesthetic, got the results and drove back to his office and emailed me to be snide and said "See I knew it was benign! I looked at the time of the emails...yes he thinks I am that dumb!!!!!
Feb 23 - 7PM (Reply to #13)
SundaySmile
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higher

someone is in need of a high spine adjustment to fix his brain. Hold on let me get my activator.
Feb 23 - 11AM
Deidre40
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Just curious...did you

Just curious...did you befriend the OW? Just wondering how you found out she was lied to, also. And they lie because they don't like who they really are.
Feb 24 - 12AM (Reply to #11)
cristina
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Yes,when I found out the

Yes,when I found out the truth,I contacted her and all her family.Her family believed me because they also realised he was fake from the moment they met him and so I talked to them and they told me all the lies he told them.They actually thanked me for informing them and now he is banned from their houses.
Feb 23 - 12PM (Reply to #9)
Maggster
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Pinocchio is his middle name!

My Narc got caught in lies time after time and was absolutely brilliant in covering them up. I was in denial for an extremely long time. I often decided not to confront him for I don't think I wanted to know the truth. All the red flags were there, slapping me in the face, but I just looked the other way. It wasn't until one morning and I woke up and I had to know for sure if my intuition was indeed correct. I was scared to death but I called the OW. She was kind and gentle and we spoke for hours and hours. At last, his mask was being peeled off slowly but surely. Fortunately for her, she was immediately, and I mean immediately able to go NC. She didn't even say goodbye. She blocked him and that was it. She just did it! I, however, stood by him and listened to even more lies...but I'm here now and trying desperately to stick to NC. I have good days and bad, like everyone else, but I don't think I have ever fought for something so hard in my life! I am fighting for myself. I want to find peace in my life.
Feb 24 - 2AM (Reply to #10)
sohurt12345
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BIG HUGS!

I, too, believed in lie after lie. I am sure there was some truth to all his lies like the sky is blue, but other than that, I don't think he knew how to be truthful about important things. Yes, all the red flags were there. Yes, he had an excuse for everything. And I supposedly loved him so much that I turned the other cheek. I kept thinking he just needed to work through some things. I thought I was special and some day would come clean to be with me. I was WRONG, SO WRONG. Everything was a farce and a fallacy. I am further out now from NC and I couldn't be happier. I hope he never contacts me again and just continues on to do what he is doing. I wish I could save others from all the drama, but I am all I can handle right now. I need to work on me and rebuilding my foundation. I need to stronger and deal with all the red flags upfront. All the tip-toeing around and detective work to TRY and find something/anything is now fruitless. That is an exhausting life I want to live behind and just keep moving forward.
Feb 23 - 11AM
Sparrow
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He can't help but lie. He

He can't help but lie. He has conditioned himself for many years. He couldn't tell the truth if it sat on the tip of his nose. He may also believe his own lies. The bottom line, he doesn't care if he gets caught in a lie. He views people beneath him and does not believe anyone would question his royal highness. And if they do, he just doesn't care. No egg on his face.........he is after all, the greatest man on the planet.
Feb 23 - 12PM (Reply to #7)
sexy72
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Mine too!

Mine doesn't care about anyone but himself either and he truly believes EVERYONE IS BENEATH HIM! I have pointed out his lies and flaws over and over since we broke up and he still lies and lies! When he was afraid I would blow up his world and tell the world he agreed with me and told me he would get help, but then as time went on and I dropped a few bombs, but not all of them big ones, he didn't care at all! When he wanted something from me, like to shut up and stay calm he would be nice, when it doesn't matter he degrades me and has amnesia of all he did to me! Unreal that he is allowed to breath!
Feb 23 - 11AM (Reply to #2)
spinning
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Sparrow, strong sister in recovery,

were you by chance with the Freak Boy I was involved with??? (teeheehee!!!) You describe his thought process perfectly and succinctly. This is the absolute truth of it; the black and white of it. It's mind boggling to people like all of us here with consciouses and souls. But to the vacuous, hollow men it's standard operating procedure. This is awesome, Sparrow. Sincerely, (not) spinning. BECAUSE I KNOW TOO MUCH TO EVER SPIN AGAIN FOR AN EMPTY SHELL

spinning

Feb 23 - 12PM (Reply to #3)
Maggster
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Spinning

I often wonder after reading others post if they are talking about my Narc. It is incredulous that so many of their traits are identical as if they all go to the same academy. Your description of vacuous, hollow men makes me envision my narc like a hollow chocolate Santa; crack it open and there is nothing inside and only tiny little pieces left in a pile.
Feb 23 - 12PM (Reply to #4)
spinning
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Maggs, what an outstanding

analogy to the chocolate Santa! You have the makings of a poem there! I love it!! I am proud of you for fighting for yourself and for your huge efforts to stay NC. We are with you all the way. Hugs from, (not) spinning. AND SWEEPING OUT THE PILE OF CRUMBS!!!

spinning

Feb 23 - 12PM (Reply to #5)
Maggster
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Thanks Spinning-

I'll give the poem idea some thought. I was crushed at 10 when I discovered Santa wasn't real and really never expected to experience anything like that again. Only difference is I never wanted to sit on Santa's lap! lol
Feb 23 - 12PM (Reply to #6)
spinning
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Maggs, you are definitely

onto something here! It is just getting better and better! Love your humorous observation, too!! Laughter is some good medicine and I can really use a big dose right now! xoxo (not) spinning. JUST GRINNING!!

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