Latest email Just gotta love him,,,he is hurting

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#1 Aug 25 - 11PM
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Latest email Just gotta love him,,,he is hurting

HI NO SEX SUSAN
I miss you and wish things were better between us, but I just feel we have several irreconcilable differences and virtually no chance to come to terms and live with them happily aver after.

One of them being your idea of a "talk"
YOur idea of a "talk" is that you are able to go on a RANT.
A rant fro 15, 30 minutesor even an hour,,,,,,,uninterrupted.
That's not communicating,,,and one would even hbe hard pressed to even call it a talk.

Your idea of talk is verbal abuse plain and simple....
And noone in their right mind would allow you to do that to them.A conversation or talk about something with someone must be a TWO way conversation.
A conversation or talk about something with someon must be a 2 way conversatio.
That means you can't go on an uninterupted RANT!!

You make a point,,,that's one point and I have an opportunity to respond and visa versa!!!

Yet when ever i try this you say I am innterupting you because I won't allow you to verbally abuse me in in that manner.

That's why we never seem to talk. And your idea of a "talk" will NEVER happen with me.

So if you want to call and come over tomorrow after I get off work and talk,,,then I am fine with that,,however if you call to talk then forget it.

You have one set of rules for your girlfriends.
Another set of rules for me.
AND
A third set of rules for yourself.

If you do call then i expect you to live by the same set of rules you put on me!!
And I see that as one of our irreconcilable differences.

LIKE
YOu axplain away your yelling as your "normal talking voice:

WELL
It is only your normal talking voice when you are excited, angry,passionate or frustrated with something.

WELL
It is my normal talking voice under the same circumstances.

However according to your rules--and you are all about rules---it's oK for you BUT not for me.

And that's just bullshit,,,,another irreconcilable difference.
Over this even though you had one last chance and blew it,,,,I yet gave you another chance so you cold bring your computer over for me to work on for you. AND YOU blew it again because you said I was talking in my normal talking voice,,,when you told me.......................I can't even write this......because it further proves you just don't give a SHIT!!!!!!

That's just too weird that I would give you another chance and you would stand me up again.

Then there wwas last weekend too.
It's just a 30 minute drive for FUCKS sakes. YOur son wasn't comming until the next day and prbly not before 9 am
Yet once again you choose not to come.
THe proof is in the pie.

YOUR ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN YOUR WORDS and you have totally convinced me that there is just no future for us.

So i now see no point in sending emails or picking up the phone....esp when you hang up on me because I won"t let you RANT uninterrupted.

simply
YOU HAVE DONE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. YOU HAVE NOT DONE WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE,,,and it is all inconsistent with somone in LOVE and truly wants to be in a relationship.
I realize that and I am fine with that.

You cannot fool me any further,,,Ive pretty much lost all hope
However having said that,,,if you want to call and come over tomorrow after I get off work and talk, and maybe spend the weekend that would be great,, I'm fine with that,,however if you call to talk then forget it.
So if not then NO problem.

Toooo bad sooo sad you lose!!!!

I would be happy to show you thru the house sometime after I finish the renovations.
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PS Thanx for the kind words abut my bathroom.

What do we all see here,,,,gaslighting,,,hoovering,,,projection,,,mirroring,,but then again maybe it was me,,,but no,,,,never ever once raised my voice or stood up for myself,,,and I have no desire to control ANYONE.

ANY COMMENTS????

Just want everyone to know I am progressing in some ways.Staying NC,,,,and really don't think about him much.

They are not worth our energy,,,,it needs to put towards us and our healing,,,,they will never heal because they just don't get it.

HUGS

Aug 26 - 1PM
Deidre40
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Holy cow…someone pass the

Holy cow…someone pass the advil. Just reading this gave me an effing headache! (you should send this guy a bottle of midol, in the mail, anonymously hee hee I’m bad, I know) Delete. Do not go over after work. I don’t think I know your story. I do remember another thread where you mentioned he called you ‘no sex susan.’ I’m sorry you’re dealing with this, but stay NC. Let him think whatever he likes about you. See—that’s when you know you’ve healed, and you’re moving on. You don’t care what they say about you. Because no matter what, they’ll believe what they wanna, and you can’t change it. And at this stage, who cares. You’re a good woman, and don’t need this. (You should send him a bottle of midol though hahaha that would seriously be funny) :=P Hugs for you to have a good and peaceful weekend.
Aug 26 - 6AM
Sherbear
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Complete assclown

"You cannot fool me any further,,,Ive pretty much lost all hope However having said that,,,if you want to call and come over tomorrow after I get off work and talk, and maybe spend the weekend that would be great,," This guy doesn't know if he is coming or going. He's lost all hope but he's still willing to have you come spend the weekend on his terms, which includes NEVER saying one thing to him about his narc ways. That sounds so lovely but I think I would pass too! I'd rather sit all alone in a corner with a puppet and a goldfish than ever share the same space with him again. Fucking delete and do not take in one word he is thrown at you. Projection, gaslighting, mirroring...yep! Ugh, these guys make me so sick. Yep, your silence is making him crazy.....so keep at it. It's your greatest weapon and your only chance to peace.
Aug 26 - 2AM
Wallace
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FREEDOM!!

Isn't it amazing once you decipher narcspeak how you can translate everything they are saying and it is so much clearer? I used to get "I just want to be able to have an opinion on something" - HA! In other words, "my opinion is the only one that counts and if you express a differenc of opinion then it is just not on". They are so transparent. I think my narc is trying to call me - keep getting private number calls on my cell - I don't answer them and there is no message so I am not sure if it is him but not going to give him the satsifaction if it is him. I figure anyone else would leave a message if they really needed to get hold of me. Silly little man. Only one week to go and then I am moving my furniture out his house - yay! After that will have no reason to see him ever again (outside of work-related functions). Court date for divorce prob in Sep. Then I am free forever. As my online name I chose Wallace as in William Wallace. Because the day I left I felt like charging up and down on a horse shouting "FREEDOM!!!!"
Aug 26 - 1AM
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He would

RANT and Rave for 1 hour about all my faults,,,I could never go on that long,,,or get a word edgewise. Plus who can drain themslves of all that useless energy,,not worth it....Have so much to look forward to in the future. We all need to let themslves explode. Maybe there is a deserted island somewhere that we can ship them all out to. Just think how peaceful this world would be. NON'S HUGS

I just got involved with the same N for the second time.
What was I thinking? Because I have put myself back to the same point where I am blaming myself again. And for what?
I want to get rid of these feelings again.

Aug 26 - 12AM
freaked
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ECHO of what I have heard

ECHO of what I have heard from narc h when I used to fly into a temper regarding OW. Every thing was turned against me and I was always the villain. Within 5 years of the marriage, he has consistently been telling me he made a wrong choice in marrying me and that any other guy would have divorced me within the 3rd month of being married to me...according to NH..I am a 'good person', but totally irrational, neurotic, paranoid schizophrenic, and uuterly ungrateful for all the things he has done for the scumbag that I am supposed to be. It has just been some weeks since I discovered that everything he has said/done points to a serious NPD. The Malignant variety. Well, I am now awaiting the final release from this prison...but the NH has said / done nothing regarding Closure via divorce. I am left hanging here in the phase4 of relationship with a nark.. and have no means to leave on my own. besides...I have read that it can be dangerous if i initiated the final cut. The newest OW is having the time of her life...she believes she is in Heaven with this NH doting on her and drowning her in money, gifts, vacations...whilst..I am sidelined comppppllleeetttly hope this helps you.. to know.. that they are the same.. But somehow..i always felt Narcs make great Lovers to an OW while beings utter turds to the wife. maybe...women who are already are their prime targets? maybe single women are excellent choice too...but . the OW here is a divorcee.... but she seems to have twined him round her little finger. maybe they are going to live happily ever after in bigamy..in nark heaven maybe she is sold on this man...and this man is not exactly cheating on her. he is able to stay faithful to her... H-OW??!
Aug 26 - 1AM (Reply to #3)
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Freaked

36 years ago I WAS the OW....Fine dining,,,,travel,,,gifts,,,you name it. we were both married but having an extramarital affair on both our partners,,,, OK I was 20 and he was 31,,,,very smooth,,,lawyer,,,lots of money and no end to the trips. And I am in means proud of this,,,but he is also on his 4th marriage,,and 2 kids outof wedlock. They had a baby together and working in the hosp,,,I was going on the elevator the same time they were getting off. He did not as much as aknowledge me,,,I knew then it was over. Sorry but my theory on this is married men,,,HANDS OFF,,,GF's ex husband HANDSOFF,,,there are some situations where you need to pass up that impulse to get together. I think ANYONE that has the tendancies to wonder off are NPD types. In answer to yur question,,,,HE IS GOING TO CHEAT,,,,OR DISSOLVE THIS MARRIAGE BY HIS ACTIONS Eventually they will not be happy,,,my ex N did not cheat on me during our relationship,,It was always in between the D nD'S,,maybe that makes it easier,,(I don;t know the answer to that) Regardless of each individual situation,,,they are all the same. They will lie,,,cheat,,,steal,,,prowl. They will do whatever they can to benefit themselves only.. There is no way you are even a consideration in their future,,we are all only there for the season,,,whatever we can supply them with at the time is goos enough

I just got involved with the same N for the second time.
What was I thinking? Because I have put myself back to the same point where I am blaming myself again. And for what?
I want to get rid of these feelings again.

Aug 26 - 12AM
aceonelady
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no more for you,me and THEM...

Well you go girl,keep your Nc,like i am keeping mine silence towards ex N too...they are really f*****d up,they wouldn't know if they are coming or going...Mine blocked me everywhere,changed his cell and has sent me lately spoken poems,apologies and made an email adres on yahoo just for me to contact him,after telling me he wants nothing to do with me ever...10 days ago sent me an email saying he noticed i wasn't emailing him for quite sometime now and he hopes everythinh is going allright for me..he thinks i am going to spil my guts about my lie now...no i won't,let him just imagine...be strong,they are all the same,glad to see you are in control now.HUGHS

Aceonelady