Just a matter of time

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#1 Apr 30 - 6AM
Alisa
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Just a matter of time

So the narc just contacted me. Started chatting to me online last night, I was very monosyllabic as usual and at some point logged off. However, I had a feeling that maybe things between him and the OW were over (just a feeling) and that I would hear from him very soon.
Today he called me (what a shocker)and I decided I was strong enough to pick up (I did not have that anxious feeling when the phone rang plus I had sort of expected it). So he calls and I think he was surprised I picked up. He asked me if I wanted to go to the movies with him tomorrow night (when I had started my half-assed NC we had had a weird "just friends" status, which I decided to put an end to by not contacting him any more and not returning his calls). I immediately said, "Nope, no time", which is partially true but let's put it this way: I could've made time for him in the past.
What followed was a really boring conversation where he was trying to find out how I was. I said, "I'm good, just as I already told you on chat last night" He wanted to know details like if I was already stressed at my job (this is a stressful time) and I was like, "Nope, not really, not if I am doing my thing and not letting people stress me" (meaning him). I soon ended the conversation and he said he'd call me again.

You know, this sucks. I mean thinking how much I used to like him and how much I wanted it to work out. I almost felt bad for him thinking he's a narc and will never be able to find what he's looking for. But it's his fault and at this point it cannot be undone. I have made up my mind and am moving on.

What was good about it is that I was really strong and this is the first time I actually said "no" to something he suggested. Also, I was completely calm during the conversation and felt like I was very much in control. I'm assuming I'll see him in a few weeks at an event, so there will be no avoiding him then but at this point I think I can handle it.

And in case you are worried I might start seeing him again: I won't. If he wants to remain acquaintances like we had been for 20 years before he started messing with me, fine but I don't want to be any closer than that, not even friends. So going to the movies - not an option.

Apr 30 - 10AM
Veronrose
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Wow, Alisa, that's awesome!!

Wow, Alisa, that's awesome!! I am so happy for you that you finally reached the point of indifference. I am a long way from that because as I read your post, I had myself in your shoes, and I felt myself getting sucked in!!! Way to go girl!!! xo V.
Apr 30 - 10AM (Reply to #7)
Alisa
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Thanks :) I don't trust

Thanks :) I don't trust myself though completely because it's all gone so quickly. I hope I won't get sucked back in at a later point. You'll get there too one day, you are on the right track!
Apr 30 - 11AM (Reply to #8)
Veronrose
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Thanks Alisa! You're doing so

Thanks Alisa! You're doing so well. Before your IMing last night, how long had you been NC? AND, did he tell you straight up that things were over with OW? I've always felt that we had similar stories, and the place you are at right now, truly gives me hope for myself. :))
Apr 30 - 12PM (Reply to #9)
Alisa
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Well, I hadn't really been

Well, I hadn't really been NC, I just never initiated contact, did not return phone-calls, stayed offline most of the time etc. It had been about a month I'd say without any contact. No, he did not even mention the OW, I am just assuming things are over because normally he would travel to her every weekend and last night he said he was home and when I asked him how he was, he said "so-so". Also, this is the first time since things started with the OW that he asked me to do something with him on the weekend. I would feel weird asking him directly. Today, when asking him how he was all he was talking about was work, which also points at things between him and the OW not going well. Yes, I have always felt our stories (and our narcs) were very similar too. I was pretty depressed (and still am) the past few weeks - I am mourning the man I lost who never existed but at the same time I have such clarity as to what kind of person I am dealing with that I KNOW I cannot ever be close to him again. I know he would D&D me again (after all, if he really wanted me he could've had me - I did give him a second chance) and honestly, I don't want to be the "friend" listening to some crap about how none of his relationships work. My time's too valuable for that. Plus, I tried being friends with him after he met OW and he was just treating me very disrespectfully. So I know he could never fit my definition of friendship.
Apr 30 - 6AM
jaycee
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alisa dont do it

alisa, dont do it, dont give in, all the times i believed my hN and his ow were over, they werent, i mean they were for the moment, but then they werent, he just wants to keep me reeled in so i can stay paralyzed, dont be me, continue to tell him you have no time, and trust me, you will take control, and next time he calls, say im sorry, i didnt look at the caller id and i have company, im seeing someone, and hes here and hang up asap....that will give him a taste of his own medicine, i wish i could do that......wish i was where you are.......i think i would stop obsessing if i could get there, but right now my pain is sooooooooo blinding i cant get out of my own way.......

Jaycee

Apr 30 - 8AM (Reply to #5)
Alisa
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I hear you and I have been

I hear you and I have been reading what you are going through, but I believe my situation is a bit different. Him and I were together for a couple of months. Yes, it hurt me a lot when he dumped me but I can't even compare it to the love I've felt for both my other exes who I had been with for several years. I obsessed a lot over him when he started seeing the girlfriend right after me (not the current one) - felt similarly to how you are feeling because it seemed like he had found true love and I felt so worthless But the new girl never bothered me. If I knew her I would have warned her after I found out he was a narc. He's pathetic and just watching him putting all this effort into the new relationship (as much as I could tell from not really having any contact with him but I know he would travel for several hours each weekend to go see her) already told me he'd fail. He can't keep that effort up, he's so dumb. I know he will find some faults with her and dump her (unless she dumps him first which would be awesome) He used to be the first thing on my mind when I woke up in the morning. He isn't anymore. I really hope you get to this point soon. It helped me to remind me that he is not capable of loving and that he will never ever change. Eventually this should lead to acceptance. I know it's really hard for you now - hugs!!!
Apr 30 - 6AM
Alisa
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One more thing: feeling good

One more thing: feeling good because I passed this "test" and talking to him did not bother me. I think I might really be over him like I thought...
Apr 30 - 6AM (Reply to #2)
Used
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alisa

great stuff, good for you, have you noticed that as much as we wanted them, after a time of distance and nc its like it all becomes same old same old,and ya think boring boring, i think this has helped me with nc, instead of me thinking it might be diffrent b/c i know it will not be, i can even go thru senarios in my head knowing full well what he would say and me thinking omg i came back to listen to this boring drivel, i called both mine BORING!!!, and said i wish i was a VIDEO RECORDER SO I COULD FAST FORWARD YOU TALKING AND OUT OF MY LIFE. LOL
Apr 30 - 7AM (Reply to #3)
Alisa
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Yes! After I had finally

Yes! After I had finally realized what he really was (and obviously after the initial shock and dealing with the fact that his "love" was a lie), I started finding him really boring too. He's not even capable of having an interesting conversation. And those time he was, it was fake because he was trying to win me back. I know he couldn't care less if I am stressed, he's just pretending he cares and he's doing such a bad job at it, it's pathetic. Just the way he asks "How are you" sounds so void of interest. I may have been a fool for falling for him the second time (actually I truly wanted to believe he'd changed) but that won't happen again. They are so predictable in their ways - like, I told my friend last night how I KNEW he'd call me soon.