I'm curious in my recovery. is it easier to be dumped or easier to run for it and escape?

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#1 Nov 10 - 1PM
blueeyes
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I'm curious in my recovery. is it easier to be dumped or easier to run for it and escape?

I'm trying to not over think but, no such luck.

I wonder if it would be harder on me if he would have left me for OW?

I had to escape and involve RO and police. I still have to fend him off this way. I want to skip town and disappear.

Is it easier to recover from escaping?

Is there a difference between recovery?

I'm not clueless, I'm curious. I know that recovery is inside of me and I need to get there alone.

I guess my question is, could my recovery be easier if I was dumped? I assume being dumped or escaping equally hurt.

Nov 11 - 10AM
Susan32
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The ultimate loss of control

After I met the ex-P's girlfriend, I was sick of him constantly humiliating me, and how he had verbally abused me in public, I basically went to MC (Minimal Contact) I kept it polite, and I kept it at that. I'd limit my interactions to "hi",or just plain ignore him, even when he sat next to me in the computer lab to hoover me. When I focused on teacher education at UNM, I focused on MY education. It was difficult enough with PTSD, looking back at it. I was profoundly traumatized. I was in the program for at least a month... then suddenly, without warning, one of my professors called me, claiming I was a "danger to children." I was unceremoniously discarded from the program, without any say of my own. It wasn't even ended in person, but over the phone at night. I was even told to "be professional, don't tell anyone." It reminded me of how the ex-P would tell me not to tell others how he treated me. To this day, I think the ex-Psych professor manufactured that because he wanted the drama... he wanted the anger, the confrontation. It never happened. I maintained NC for my own safety. At the time, my friends asked me if he had my phone number or home address.... I said no. They were afraid that he'd go further if he had had such information. I briefly had a job as a cashier for a month. It didn't last, because it was at a touristy place. When I left to be with my family in Oregon, I didn't tell ANYONE. I didn't tell the professors I trusted because I was afraid word would get around. I basically disappeared. When I drove back with my father, he described it more as a "flight to safety." So, in the end, I basically dumped him... because nothing makes a bigger statement than skipping town without a word or explanation... For an N, but ESPECIALLY a P, it's the ultimate loss of control.
Nov 11 - 7AM
onwithmylife
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blueeyes

I was dumped after 15 years when he moved to another state and we did not go together as planned. He always had to be in control and the main reason i was dumped was because i was catching onto him, as in a letter I sent to talk about things, and why his needs, wants were always paramount to any of mine, did not sit well with the MASTER, after that it was only a matter of time before he devalued and discarded me and then made up some cockamammie story how I was screwing around on the internet offering free sex, first come, first served, it shows how little he knew me as a person I was nothing more than a sex object to him.because I have not screwed around for nearly 2 years, not for want of trying ,but have not met any good men I wish to give myself to!It does hurt more i think to be dumped rather than the other way around, like Briesis says, at least you have some power because you made the choice.With these men it is all about being on TOP and in CONTROl at ALL timed, what an exhausting life that must be!!Another woman was never the issue with him, i think he knows he is finished sexually, because of ED problems and he mentioned cybersex, who in their right mind wants that OVER the real thing?!
Nov 10 - 2PM
Steph
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Well, I've experienced

Well, I've experienced both. My first N, I married. We were together for 7 years and then I FINALLY left. He was physically/emotionally abusive, cheated etc. Even though he did all of this I still felt very guilty for leaving and felt sorry for him. I was happy when he met someone else because then he left me alone. The second N, dumped me, 3 times. We were together on and off for 2 years. It hurt more because I felt I put up with alot of emotional abuse and him leaving me was the ultimate slap in the face. I felt if anyone should have left it should have been me! I found being dumped harder than being the one to leave. HOWEVER, if he didn't leave then I likely would have stuck around for many more years and put up with more and more like I did with the first N. So, being dumped hurt far more and I took longer to recover, However, it saved me from spending many more years with him and wasting my precious life. It did take away my control, but it spared me from having to feel guilty for leaving or questioning myself as to if I was doing the right thing. Make sense? Pros and cons to both ways. For me, the pain and rejection from being dumped was horrendous, but in the long run it served MY best interest.
Nov 10 - 2PM
mystwoman
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I'm not really sure which

I'm not really sure which would be easier. In my case, I was dumped. On one hand, xnh's rejection really hurts. I'd spent 16 years with him (and living with his b.s. and abuse) only to have him throw me aside like I was garbage. On the other hand, he actually did me a favor. I didn't want the divorce, but our r/s was VERY destructive to me. His dumping me made it so that I didn't have be the "heavy" in calling it quits. He came home and told me that he didn't love me and "didn't want to do this anymore". At that point, I threw his a$$ out the front door, and filed for divorce. If he didn't love me and was cheating...I'm done. There was nothing in our r/s to work with any longer. Because xnh dumped me, I don't ever have people making comments to me about my making a "mistake" leaving him. He dumped me. He also is the one that looks like a total turd for cheating with OW. I've heard comments from more people who told me they'd told xnh that he's an idiot for hurting someone that truly and deeply loved him the way he did me, and that he should have kept his p*cker in his pants where it belongs. I hope the little, microscopic thing turns black and rots off...and I hope it hurt xnh (alot) while it does it. lol. Meanwhile, *I* am free to pick up the pieces in my life, and move on towards a happier existance WITHOUT HIM.

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Nov 10 - 2PM
Scoop
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When i think of the time i

When i think of the time i went NC i was left with no choise . Technically i left him but it never felt like that . When he was screaming in my face "i dont love you" it is hard to compute that it was me the one who left but thats a narc for you and two days later he had changed his tune and truned up at my door step. but it was too late for him . I think that weather you left him or he left you the thing we all have in common is the D&D .. my narc left me six times in all but he hovered each time and it wasnt untill the last time i had to face facts that he was seriously disordered ...... Lets not forget that the one thing a narc fears more than anything is abandonment , if a narc gets even a sniff that you might be ready to get him to face the mirror and hold him accountable for his behaviour .. well you wont see him for dust, but most times he turns up again when he either thinks you may have calmed down or his other supply drys up .so mostly they never really leave .even if they do take great pleasure in making a big to do about leaving you . What i found the most discusting about my narc is that he would dump me but a few days later he would contact me to "see how i was doing" and when i told him i was doing shit he would launch into yet another shame dumping speach ... as if dumping me the first time wasnt enough , my tears gave him such a buzz he would contact me to dump me all over again sick sick sick... but then he would hover , proberly when he thought i had been punished enough . If he has dumped you or the other way round the only way you can ever get rid of them is with NC
Nov 10 - 2PM
ClusterF
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Don't forget

Narcissism is a ClusterB personality disorder. It's about control and supply for them. If they dump you, you are safer. Things can get pretty dangerous if you take control away from them. Yes there are many levels of danger but be careful--all psychopaths are narcissists but all narcissists aren't psychopaths. They don't think like normal people, they don't experience normal human emotions, generally only rage and shame. It's not a normal breakup scenario. They do not wish you well. It's scarier than who's dumping who, it's who's in control. And this is why no contact is SO necessary.
Nov 10 - 1PM
chickon2
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Hmmm

Good Question.. I was dumped.. BUT the blame was put on his mom.. haha.. soooo it still hurt.. jerka$$es. I think it boils down to hurt, it hurt.. Pain is pain.. THe Goal is to get our selves healthy again & keep our eyes opened and the volume of our guts on HIGH..... Hugs
Nov 10 - 1PM
Briseis
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This is only my VERY

This is only my VERY personal opinion. I think being dumped hurts more. If you dump HIM, at least you are in a position of power from the beginning. That said, we all get to the same place very quickly. If he discarded you, you thank God (or Whoever) for the blessing. If you dumped him, you thank yourself for smartening up, finally. And BOTH are just grateful the Narc is GONE. I was the "dumper", and I used to commiserate that I wished he would find an OW so then he'd leave me the hell alone. But then I would have experienced rejection. Rejection is rejection, even if you eventually realize the OW is your guardian angel. We are human beings, and it is a deeply painful thing, no matter who rejects us, to be rejected. It used to mean death. Our brains are still wired the same way. Being utterly valueless meant death. I've had convos with ladies who admitted they felt a little envious of me, that I had a cling-on Narc who wouldn't leave me alone. They had been D&D'd. I told them I was envious of THEM because all I wanted was for him to GO AWAY.
Nov 11 - 9AM (Reply to #20)
sunflowergrl70
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I did the dumping

and I am still so full of doubt. Because I dumped him he is still trying to get me back. He's full of promises, lots of attention and he makes me doubt my decision. The hard part for me was that I am only going by a hunch that he'll eventually hurt me. I'm doing it to him before he can do it to me. But would he truly D&D me? I'm a pretty strong woman and can be a real "ball buster" and he's stayed attached to me despite the fact that he can't manipulate me. Maybe he's doing it in a covert way. I don't know. I know the way he is with other people such as his mom, kids and co-workers and work pretty hard at preventing the same kind of treatment. To me it's exhausting constantly having to posture and puff myself up like a cat to keep him at bay. It works, but it's no way to live! When you try to walk away from a narc before they are ready to D&D you they can really wear you down trying to keep you from leaving them.
Nov 10 - 2PM (Reply to #18)
blueeyes
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OW= he'd leave me alone

B, I wished the same thing. Your probably right that adding rejection at this point is very bad. I'm trying to think of myself more and "what he did" to me less. That is why I have so many questions.
Nov 10 - 2PM (Reply to #19)
Briseis
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Having a bazillion questions

Having a bazillion questions right now is SO normal, Blue. Please keep asking them :) Every question you ask is putting another brick in the wall, and this is a wall you really want to build :)
Nov 10 - 1PM (Reply to #17)
jen79
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the OW as your guardian angel

wow briseis! Never thought of it that way! "They are all there to get you" Lama Marut.
Nov 10 - 1PM
hopefuljms
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BLueeyes, I guess you could

BLueeyes, I guess you could say that I was dumped. We were together for 6 1/2 years. He dumped me but after about a year he started communications again and by that I mean constant calls, emails txt messages... All day 5 days a week. That went on for 2 more years until I told him it had to stop. When I told him it had to stop I got all the BS. How miserable he was, how his children knew he was miserable. How he was happiest when he was with me... The next day he called 2 mutual friends and said I realize now she (meaning me) is the one I want to marry, she is the one I want to spend the rest of my life with. How he was going to get his head on straight and come back to me. The punchline is of course that he was already engaged. Had been for 3 years (got engaged 3 months after we broke up) to a girl 17 years younger than he is... When I texted and emailed him about it I got no response! 3 weeks later he finally set a date and married her 3 months later (in August). So to answer your question I don't think either is better. I found out the little secret in April of this year and I am still suffering. Not every day but many days.
Nov 10 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
blueeyes
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hopefuljms

Not everyday suffering is amazing for just finding this out in April. I'm sorry for what he put you through, that's awful! It's like he (after 1 year) wanted to stick it to you one more time? Sick! Sorry, I'm mad today. :/
Nov 10 - 1PM (Reply to #3)
desprathousewife
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I'm still trying to work it out

Did he dump me by attacking me? Or did I dump him by refusing his apologies and going total NC straight away? I'm sort of in a 'Either or Zone' and that aint very nice either I'm afraid to say. I DO know that by me ignoring him it didn't take him long to go seek out his ETERNAL source of supply and get back with his psycho ex. Wow, think I must be a lucky girl here, I've had a taste of both and they both taste like shite!
Nov 10 - 5PM (Reply to #4)
blueeyes
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lol @ Despy

YOU dumped HIM! Belee mee.
Nov 10 - 8PM (Reply to #5)
Briseis
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Um, yeah!

You dumped him. You dumped him so hard you had to get an RO and then had to go back to court to enforce it and get a longer one. He'd have kept you around for a punching bag forever.
Nov 11 - 5AM (Reply to #10)
desprathousewife
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Yay, I dumped HIM :)

For some reason being an etenal punching bag doesn't have any appeal. Although to add to all the other responses, by doing the dumping the way I did has left me in a difficult mind frame as to future consequences. If he'd left me for another woman, painful as that would be, I would eventually have to come to terms with that, pick myself up and move on. I may now have to forever worry about my personal safety. Anyone on here have any Mafia connections in case I win the lottery? :)
Nov 11 - 6AM (Reply to #11)
Used
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dhw

my narc left his 2 exs alone after they did this to him..it frightened him big time...funny thing is he was the one running scared after[this was b/f i met him], he used to say what if their had families come after me too. by the time i met him his paronia was so out of control, if we were out having a coffee, he stood and watched it beign made in case"someone slipped"anything in it...if he got post he wouldnt open it till he met me, in case they were THREATING letters from who knows what?..i could go on all day about his paronia , oh and he moved after 1st ro.. you dont need MAFIA connections with these tossers..they are cowardly women beaters, my narc hit women, but the men he fell out with were all vunlrable..he wouldnt have a fight with a REAL FACE!!..he was to busy grovelling to them..they all took this piss out of him..he realy looked the part, he was big and testarone personified.. but he was a rabbit!!!
Nov 11 - 6AM (Reply to #12)
desprathousewife
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I'm afraid mine would rather

I'm afraid mine would rather DIE than show any form of cowardice, thats what worries me. I really don't think he's scared by this, just frustrated and extremely angry. He knows how SOFT I am and I bet he's totally mystified that I stayed strong and turned up at the trail to testify. I think he'd been so confident that I wouldn't that he didn't even have a flaming defence against me and ended up pleading guilty. I wish mine was a rabbit, unfortunately he's definately more of a wolf :(
Nov 11 - 6AM (Reply to #13)
Used
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dhw

first of all he is a coward, thats why he hits women, and hides behind womans skirt, and if you are soft i wouldnt want to meet you on a day you are strong...cos noway would a "SOFT" woman be able to do what you done....i applaued you then and i do again. that tooks such balls[which he hasent got... he didnt think you were soft he thought you loved him thats what he though..even wolves run in packs...his little g/f is not what you think ,she is his protection, these men are afraid of woman so if they get a woman its to their dirty work, whuch she done to you in the beginning
Nov 11 - 7AM (Reply to #14)
desprathousewife
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And he was right, I DID love

And he was right, I DID love him, with all my heart and soul :( Hey Used, its ok, no need to be worried about meeting me down a dark alley or anything. I aint ever doing dark alleys again! lol Thanks for making me feel better, and stop with the compliments else you'll be giving me a big head x Do you really think he's back with her for protection? That made me laugh out loud bigtime. She is a lot bigger than me, rough as they come with a gutter mouth. I wasn't scared of her the night she attacked me, she caught me unaware by dragging me off a bar stool from behind, as soon as we'd got outside though and I started standing up to her, she backed down straight away and apologised, so I guess she is a coward . Funnily enough I saw her in our local town shopping last week and she didn't even have the front to look at me, she kept her head down as she walked past and looked a little ashamed now I think about it :)
Nov 11 - 7AM (Reply to #15)
Used
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dhw

my narcs used to wind me up to have a go at someone on their behalf, i support them at first and then i saw the light..narcs ow sought me out to tell me about them and i will always believe he was winding her up about me, so thats why she done it, she realy came unstuck with me. she came to me so full of it.. she came in like a lion and left like a lamb. she hasent looked at me since and that was 2 1/2 years ago..and a couple of women tried to talk and i said dont bother and went to him and said if you dont do something about them i will get silly..they havent looked since...its not about the size of the woman, its about feeling protected with some women..both narcs have said i make them feel safe and like nothing in the world could touch them...BUT THEIR YA GO...cos they got strong on my strength, i put them back together again and when they felt better, they disappeared to work there magic on someone else...
Nov 10 - 9PM (Reply to #6)
ClusterF
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RO

This is what I'm talking about. They get dangerous when they lose control. NEVER forget that. It's not about losing a boyfriend, it's about escaping abuse.
Nov 11 - 5AM (Reply to #8)
blueeyes
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Escape

This is my question, I had to escape and he still won't quit. That's why I wished he would dump me. I know I'm looking for a cut and dry NC here. I'm not going to get it :(
Nov 11 - 5AM (Reply to #9)
desprathousewife
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I feel the same Blueeyes. I

I feel the same Blueeyes. I wish mine had dumped me too, the Mafia sounds more appealing by the minute :)
Nov 11 - 5AM (Reply to #7)
desprathousewife
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Oh crap

I've just seen your response ClusterF. Gee that has REALLY helped to establish some peace of mind....NOT! LOL