Idealized, Devalued, Dumped - MUST SEE! New posting by Sam Vaknin

Thank you for the added info. on this man. You obviously know more about him than I do. I can partially agree with Sam's assessment that "folks with NPD are junkies, in search of a fix..." I view NPD as a spiritual disease more than anything...lack of soul, compassion, empathy, morals, integrity etc. I view folks with NPD as ticks & vamps...blood suckers. Given that Sam is a N, it doesn't surprise me that he compliments himself with the label of "junkie." As for psychiatrists and diagnosis; they are often wrong as much as they are right. Many psychiatrists are N's. Sam is smart...maybe he fooled the shrink which is typical N behavior. N's are known to cause their therapists to seek mental health treatment by the time they're done with them. I once knew a guy who studied APD and was able to get out of the military by faking the criteria. I know I sound skeptical and I am because I work in the mental health field. I've enjoyed reading Sam's stuff but there's something about him that leaves me wondering. I much prefer Dr. Hare, Cleckley, Kohut, and other sources. Yes, Sam is unique because of his perspective and that's why he's interesting. Thanks for your feedback

Vaknin is cunning and is capitilizing on his ALLEGED DISORDER. I've read many of his postings and what he says about N's is fascinating reading. He appears to get very deep into the mind of a N because he supposidly is one. He has a Ph.D. in Philosophy (Not Psychology) along with credentials in finance plus more. He is a businessman and he's smart. I wonder about him...I take what I like and leave the rest. Here's his education: 1970-1978: Completed nine semesters in the Technion – Israel Institute of Technology, Haifa. 1982-3: Ph.D. in Philosophy (dissertation: "Time Asymmetry Revisited") – Pacific Western University, California, USA. 1982-5: Graduate of numerous courses in Finance Theory and International Trading in the UK and USA. Certified E-Commerce Concepts Analyst by Brainbench. Certified in Psychological Counselling Techniques by Brainbench. Certified Financial Analyst by Brainbench. Full proficiency in Hebrew and in English.

I tend to agree Soaper. He speaks of narcs all being of the most serious type. Probably from his own experiences. My own ex N isn't as bad as some of the ones I've read about on these forums and isn't as bad as Sam says they are. Still an asshole at any rate. It would be more difficult for Sam to peg victims though. He may have had a number of victims himself, but he simply isn't capable of putting himself into their shoes to understand and make unbiased conclusions. He can only make assumptions based upon what he has read or been told by victims. We're victims... we know what we felt. That's what matters. Oh well, he can't be perfect. He just thinks he is. ;)

Have you told your story yet? Just curious. I could have sworn your N was a male in another thread, lol.