His silence is making me question everything

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#1 Jun 26 - 2PM
reallyconfused
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His silence is making me question everything

I've cut contact, almost two weeks now. A part of me hoped that he would try to reach out to me in some way...no attempt on his part. I start to think about the last conversation we had where he made me feel wrong and that I wasn't good enough. I wonder if he found someone else and if she is everything he wants and is giving her everything he didn't give to me. All normal thoughts, I suppose...but I just can't get over it.
Does he not see a point of contacting me since he's moving away in a few months? Will he try to contact me before he moves? Hurts to realize he probably never, ever cared at all and that he got to use me. I finally called him out in a way and he was "sorry it had to end this way." I was hoping he'd have tried to mend things, but what would be the point? He'd only repeat it again. It makes me mad to think he just went about his business without a blink of an eye, smiling that cruel smile. Maybe he's just an asshole and not a narcissist? Maybe he's just too good at his deception. If he contacted me, I'd feel validated. I wonder what he even thinks of me, if anything at all..

Jul 9 - 8PM
deecbee
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Also, here's another way to

Also, here's another way to think of it that has helped me, because I'd say for me the hardest thing has been dealing with silent treatment and battling back and forth for the "torch of the last word" as I like to call it, lol. Think of it like this- I'm willing to bet that with his silent treatment in the past, you'd be the first one to break contact and attempt to get in touch, amirite? If that is the case, then that's all he is waiting for right now... he's imagining you squirming in your chair, upset that he hasn't answered back, and then giving up and trying to get in touch. They LOVE that. That's the ultimate supply right there, having you reach out to them even though they are disrespecting you. If you meet his silence with silence and no contact of your own, eventually that silent treatment from him turns into silent treatment from YOU, because you haven't caved like they expected. Eventually he'll be the one squirming. But as others have stated, getting involved in a power struggle over this is a slippery slope to getting sucked back into this mess. At some point you do need to make that silence serious and final.
Jul 9 - 11PM (Reply to #34)
strivingforhealing (not verified)
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You are so so right on!!!

especially this: At some point you do need to make that silence serious and final. but in the early phases of NC- the other stuff you said helped my torn up ego. and I needed that. I needed some dignity. If you meet his silence with silence and no contact of your own, eventually that silent treatment from him turns into silent treatment from YOU, because you haven't caved like they expected. Eventually he'll be the one squirming. you really nailed it! thank you!
Jul 9 - 8PM (Reply to #32)
Deidre40
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deecbee

Did I tell you already today that I think I love you, deecbee?? :=P Seriously...this is an excellent way of looking at it, and frankly, I think you're 100% spot on. I have a feeling that's exactly how they think...really great insight, there.
Jul 9 - 9PM (Reply to #33)
deecbee
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Now let's see if I can

Now let's see if I can finally take my own advice for once!! I can dish it, but I have a difficult time following through myself. It is hard. I've got 2 days of narc sobriety under my belt so far!
Jul 9 - 8PM (Reply to #31)
reallyconfused
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I had a newer post where he

I had a newer post where he did contact me. First he tried calling and when i didn't pick up he texted me with "just wanted to say hi and see how you were." I didn't respond, I can only wonder what is going through his mind. He hasn't tried contacting me again.
Jul 9 - 8PM
deecbee
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HUNTER IS RIGHT. They are

HUNTER IS RIGHT. They are purposely being silent because they KNOW it upsets you. Trust me on this! My ex is a legitimate, diagnosed psychopath and he admitted that he was probably a narc too, and he said when someone upsets him, he cuts off all contact and pretends they don't exist because he knows that the silence will crush them. "There are no words as harsh and hurtful as silence". This is a punishment and they know it makes normal, feeling humans squirm.
Jul 9 - 11PM (Reply to #29)
tresor2
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NPD/APD

If he's diagnosed with Antisocial PD, he's a N too. He doesn't sound as if he has much of a conscious and is definately sadistic.
Jul 9 - 8PM (Reply to #28)
Deidre40
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Your ex and my ex sound quite

Your ex and my ex sound quite similar, deecbee. I too think my ex is a bona fide psychopath.
Jul 9 - 2PM
Brooke1
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mind games

Hi, Im new here. Mine is doing the same thing.I backed off from him and told him I will call him when im ready to have contact (too hard to say goodbye so im taking it one day at a time). He let it go for a while, and his silence really through me off--the same way its doing to you. But right when i was having a good day, and starting to be okay, he called. He really messed me up with that phone call, i dont know how.I think its because my mind is really trying to settle on the fact that he doesnt truly love me and never will. So when he told me he missed me and loves me, it upsets me cause he's lying and confusing me. Its not fair for him to say he loves me and wants to make things work,when he knows already (from me telling him countless times) what i expect from him/whats wrong, and refuses to do anything about it. I never asked him for anything unreasonable. just for things that a normal relationship has.He's like somebody that sees a person choking and says "wow, i would give anything to help you"...but just stands there. Its upsetting. Im almost sure the silence is a revenge/control thing. My boyfriend has always been like that. No matter how hurtful he's been, if i back up for even a few days, he doesnt admit he's mad but will always find a way to get back at me, and feel in control again.
Jul 9 - 6PM (Reply to #25)
reallyconfused
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I don't know how they pick up

I don't know how they pick up on when to call lol, it seems like when things are starting to turn around they come out of nowhere to fuck things up again. He ended up contacting me about a week ago and I didn't respond, it was really hard not to...but I figured that he has had many chances to make things right and he will never be able to. It hurts, but I don't want to get hurt even more from speaking to him again. It'll just be a reminder that he isn't going to change.
Jul 9 - 9PM (Reply to #26)
Brooke1
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reallyconfused

smart. i wish i never picked up the phone the other day:(
Jun 27 - 7PM
Hunter
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Reallyconfused

Hi You are still not understanding the "Twisted Pretzels" (Lots of Pretzels in Germany, I was just there) He is punishing you with the silent treatment. You need to understand they don't think like us. His Silence is his way of saying "Fuck YOu,Im in control" Hunter
Jun 27 - 7AM
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P.S. Mine also used the words

P.S. Mine also used the words "sorry it had to end this way" when he ditched me repeatedly. It's like they are all cut from the same cloth. Ugh, good riddance. XXX
Jun 27 - 7AM
badjer
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reallyconfused

I can completely understand your distress. It is acute and severe in the first weeks and months after the break-up. You are on the initial stages and you need to be patient with yourself. I asked myself all of those questionsn and a tonne to boot and I used that same word - 'validation'. It's like unless you have some form of confirmation that you meant something, that they missed you, then it was all for nothing. I can tell you I have been there and you WILL come through this. The other thing I agree with is that you will hear from him again. My mother warned me of the same about mine and she was right every time. The thing is - and I agree with another poster here - you will need to have every last bit of your resolve and courage together to resist it when it happens. I didn't - I got sucked back in (as my mother and friends warned me) only for him to flick me away once he knew the game was up and the time was ripe for him to discard me. Like you I ended it the first time round and my ex was so power and control mad, the machinations to get me back and do the final dumping were, I am sure, quite planned out. DO NOT GIVE HIM THAT EDGE. Stand firm, stay true to yourself and remember the pain he has caused you. if in doubt re-read your posts until you are absolutely confident you can deal with it. Come on here and shout it out, cry it out until you feel you have a handle on it. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Good luck XXXX
Jun 26 - 7PM
Littleone
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Hmm I think your at the stage

Hmm I think your at the stage where you want him to contact you so you can have the power of not responding. Everyone goes through that. The problem is when they do contact with their narc speak it's very hard not to respond. Silence Is much better- trust me on that. Even if he contacted you it wouldn't mean that he cares- he doesn't, he's a narc. Not contacting doesn't mean he cares any less- it's impossible, he doesn't care about anyone! I'm getting the silent treatment too, I have to admit I love it. It keeps me from analyzing his psycho babble and getting sucked into that world. Silence is golden. Enjoy the peace while you have it, they almost always come back!
Jun 26 - 5PM
Deidre40
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Hi ....and welcome. Sorry for

Hi ....and welcome. Sorry for your pain. We have all been there. I ended the relationship with mine...but, the pain was still there, and the healing still needed to happen. No matter who breaks up with who, the pain is still there. I'm over two months broken up with my ex now, and I have to tell you something--IT DOES GET MUCH BETTER. I PROMISE. But, let me also tell you. Your statement about needing his validation. THAT. Is what you need to fix about you. That is what I needed to fix about me. I no longer need nor want his validation. I wasted so much time and energy yearning for it. And when I really reflected as to why that was, it was due to childhood trauma, and not receiving the love and validation every child needs as a kid. I carried that yearning into my adult relationships with men. Narcs and psychopaths were what I ended up with, because they prey on the weak. Yes, I was weak! But, with God, all things are possible. I have prayed for strength. I've been off of this site for a little while healing. Sometimes, commenting on my story, sets me back. But, I read your story here, and thought it was worth chiming in today...if nothing else, for you to know you're not alone in seeking validation. But, he is not responsible for your validation. You are. Seek your worth through God. Through yourself. Only then, will you be set free of this man. BUT, it will take time. You will be mad...sad...happy...sad...mad...all in the same day! haha :D But, rest assure. It gets better. PLEASE stay NC. No matter what he does or says...just let him go. He doesn't belong in your mind, heart or life. And I highly recommend deleting him off FB, and any other site or source that you are linked up to him or mutual friends. Mutual ''friends'' will stab you in the back when it comes to this--trust me, I lived through it. I had to cut them off, one by one. And that is tremendously hard. To literally change your life as you knew it, but it doesn't have to happen over night. Take each day as it comes. But, please stay NC. That is the best piece of advice you will get here. And work on why you feel you need his validation. In that, will come freedom and peace. {{hugs}}
Jun 26 - 3PM
Sparrow
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It is important to know one

It is important to know one thing here........he is NEVER sorry, and NEVER will be. He is incapable unfortunately. He is and asshole, yes,but not JUST an asshole, he is also a narc. He WILL contact you. Do not doubt that. You must be as prepared for that as you possibly can be. And, it does not matter if he moves, where he moves to.......he will and can make you suffer from across the globe just as easy as in your backyard. These things I know. Hang in there, get your ducks in line and prepare for what's to come.......because it will come. What you do with it,once it does is in your control and yours only. We are here for you always. Good luck and keep us posted!
Jun 26 - 3PM
sara-smile
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reallyconfused

I promise you that him being silent is much easier than him being in your face everyday. Mine won't leave me alone. He calls, text, emails and harasses the hell out of me. He keeps me confused and crazy! Take this quiet time and heal yourself. A friend told me one time during one of my many whining and crying fits that this is not about HIM.....it's about ME and how I react. She is right. React to his silence by focusing on YOU! I PROMISE you that it will make you feel so much better. Good luck! Sara
Jun 26 - 4PM (Reply to #16)
SoaperGirl
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Take this quiet time and heal yourself. Narc totally silent

That's what I'm doing right now. I still miss not interacting with my narc, but on the other hand, it's steadily becoming harder to recall him clearly in my memories. Indeed, he's taking up less and less mental space on my emotional radar. That's good I think. While my narc is with his financially stable OW supposedly living happily ever after, I don't think I'm going to hear from him...maybe never I don't know. My narc has been completely silent, and has done just about everything he can to completely disappear off the face of the earth. He loves the silent treatmernt. At this time, I have no idea where he is or what he's doing with any certainty. I'm sure that's exactly how he wants it too. I can't blow the whistle on him. I feel like he's getting away with everything, and getting everything he wants without paying for it. So, I've been putting together a self-help library on narcissism and building self-esteem. I'm sure all this is for the best. I am quite a bit overweight, and I know its emotional eating, and I'm thinking I need to go back and dig around childhood memories of abuse, neglect and abandonment. It seems a useless venture since I can't change my childhood history. I did the best I could, but something is there I still need to work on. Will I ever be able to help mini me let go of whatever is bugging me deep down? People around then are nearly all dead now. I've went back from time to time to review those memories and nurture the little girl me. Yes, she was frequently beaten, abused and separated from her family without explanation and blamed herself for everything. I want a healthy, mature, loving relationship with a man able to give and receive love in a healthy way...some thoughts currently coming up in the book - A need to raise my standards and demand men treat me properly, establish boundaries, and make approriate choices. Seems too many of us women accept third rate treatment from lazy and abusive men. What's wrong with us? It's not easy to figure it all out, but I'm trying.
Jul 9 - 6PM (Reply to #17)
bakingfortherapy
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For your library..

Do you have "Women who love too much" by Robin Norwood in ur library? It's really informative and helpful. My copy is so tattered I've read it so much
Jun 26 - 2PM
prettypeeved
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I'd warn you now that if

I'd warn you now that if you're "going NC" for the purpose of making him contact you, you're just trying to play him at his own games. No Contact is about stopping him from abusing you, and stopping yourself from weakening and getting sucked back in. It's not about manipulating him into doing what you want by punishing him. I know it's hard, but stuff like that just doesn't work with narcs.
Jun 27 - 5PM (Reply to #14)
tresor2
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Playing Games

You couldn't have said it better. I can't count the times I went NC and a part of me wanted him to chase me. I wanted him to respect me and acknowledge his abusive treatment but, that will never happen with a N because they abuse on purpose. The thinking was that by NC, maybe he'll miss me and begin to value the realtionship. Such twisted thinking on my part. They just find OW. I had a so much denial and hope for a good outcome. I still can't believe this happened to me.
Jun 26 - 2PM (Reply to #11)
reallyconfused
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I'm not playing games. I told

I'm not playing games. I told him I didn't want anything to do with him anymore and I mean it. It's just the fact that he isn't silent really shows he never really cared. I suppose people like that don't have the capacity to from what I've read. The complete silence is making question if I read into everything wrong. I feel like if he tried to communicate it would be somewhat validating. But I should know better, he can't do that for me.
Jun 27 - 6AM (Reply to #13)
dudette
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He is responding to your wish

I told mine in no uncertain terms that I wanted nothing to do with him and he has responded with the ST.... They are like children often and respond to authority quite literally. If you have said that you wanted nothing to do with him anymore, he is just responding to your wish.... If your thinking is consistent with what you said at the time, enjoy having no contact, for it is a blessing indeed...
Jun 26 - 3PM (Reply to #12)
prettypeeved
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Why would complete silence

Why would complete silence mean you are wrong? Narcs are quite happy to dole out the silent treatment. I know it's hard to realise they never really cared, but the person you think they are just isn't real. It's their fantasy image of themselves. Sucks, doesn't it?
Jun 26 - 2PM
IncognitoBurrito
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Confused

No, I doubt you're wrong about it. That's his smoke and mirrors, at work on your psyche. Besides, I'm getting the silent treatment, too. It feels different this time. It feels out of my hands, but off my back, and quite frankly, freeing. Good riddance to him! Resentment, confusion, second-guessing of the self, mind-numbing drama... who needs any of it? The ones who want to be in your life, are already in it.
Jun 26 - 2PM
Scoop
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Heres a link to the "silent

Heres a link to the "silent treatment " it is just about the most incidious for of abuse there is ... Please try and see him not contacting you as time that you can read as much as possible about the condition .. It hurts sooo much , i know , but in the months to come with NC you will see what you where dealing with and healing ...keep strong .. xx http://abuse101.com/silenttreatmentandabuse.html
Jun 27 - 5PM (Reply to #8)
tresor2
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Another Link - Silent Treatment

http://powercommunicating.com/
Jun 26 - 2PM (Reply to #6)
jackguy
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thanks for that link scoop

hi reallyconfused, scoop is right - the silent treatment is a very nasty/sick form of abuse/attempt at control. My exn has done this to me and really takes satisfaction in it. You have to ask yourself would you ever treat someone the way you're being treated? I could never treat anyone the way my exn has treated me - I couldn't summon the sickness/vindictiveness. I don't want a lifetime of facing endless rage and a sick mentality. Keep reading items on this blog. If your partner is a narcissist the blog will help you to face that and get away into a relationship where you are appreciated and treated with some humanity, even if initially it's just about getting a good relationship with yourself - be a friend to yourself. Sorry for all the advice, Take care - it's a real bitch when you first split with an n - extremely painful but it will get easier. Jackguy
Jun 26 - 3PM (Reply to #7)
reallyconfused
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I need all the advice I can

I need all the advice I can get, so there is nothing to be sorry for. Thank you.