Hi, I'm a Narc.

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#1 Jan 29 - 11AM
SoOverItNext
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Hi, I'm a Narc.

I just came to the conclusion from this forum that I am. As far as my ex narc, yes, I was obsessive over our relationship. Yes, I was a victim but maybe only to a extent. I have always been swooned over. By men women, boys and girls....my looks did all the walking and talking for me. I never harrow try to make friends or find love. It always fell in my lap.

Now that I'fe Bern through this with ex Narc, I look back and see that I'm so much like him. I expect to receive without giving. People are supposed to be drawn to me like magnets and if they don't I find something wrong with them.

If I'm feeling miserable, I want someone to be there with me in my misery. Not necessarily so that they can br miserable but I need them to listen to and sympathize with me.

I'm a big dreamer. I havesll these ideas of how things could or should be but I am not brave enough to make the sacrifies and efforts to get these things done.

I ignore peoples calls until I need to talk to them about something. I hate who ive become but I'm scared tobe vulnerable enough to let my guard down. I pretend to be so strong but I'm very weak. Its a front.

I like when people do and say what I want or think they shoulld say.

I am a berg strong willed person and I have strong opinion and when I talk about them and someone disagrees I kept talk and try to convince tjhem to see if my way.

When someone is venting to me, I somehow always have a comeback about how I have a similar situation instead of just letting them vent and listening to them.

I hate being like this and I want to change so i think I have to disagree about All Nafcs not being able to change

Feb 2 - 3PM
SoOverItNext
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Thanks, ladies!!!!!!

Thank you!!!!! I went to the "gettin better" link that you posted and some of the things that I read on there put a lot of things into perspective. I am so grateful to have read so many things that pertained to me. It definitely makes me feel hopeful about the future. I'm not in such a rush to be healed. I know that some days will be worse than others. I know that this is something that me and ex Narc have had embedding from a young age. I have to forgive him. But I really have to forgive myself and take control over my life...for ONCE. I know that this will take time because I have been living with these thoughts and "habits" for most of my life but it is so important for my to get better not only for me but also so that I won't repeat these patterns with my children and they can have a chance at being whole. I need therapy asap. Again, Thank you, for this article!!! It really hit home.
Jan 30 - 1PM
Dee30
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You sound like me

Yes I get all that swooning over me too from guys. And yeah I need to always tell my situation when a friend has a problem instead of letting her vent her feelings. And yep if someone disagrees, I have to convince them that I'm right.Yeah I did think that perhaps I was a narcissist myself. But I'm quite certain that I'm codependent and not a narcissist. It doesn't sound like u a narc tho. perhaps we are just trying to validate our story. we want someone to listen and validate what we have been through. codependents can be controlling to. But with a narcissist, they control to serve their own needs. I don't believe narcissist care so much about changing because they believe nothing is wrong with them, so since u know ur weaknesses and are willing to change, I do not think you are a narcissist.
Jan 29 - 8PM
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One can have narcissistic

One can have narcissistic qualities, and not be a narc. These qualities are what gives us the ability to want more for ourselves, to want the most out of life. A healthy amount of narcissism keeps people grounded. Doesn't allow themselves to be taken advantage of. It is actually important to have a healthy level of narcissism in you. Everything in moderation. My question to you is, are you capable of loving another more than you love yourself? You don't mention that in your post. Ask yourself why you are the way you are. Why do you have these expectations of others? I think you will find it was a learned behavior from your own childhood, just as a NPD is, but I see something a little different than you are seeing. You see these things as wrong, the feelings you have in regards to your behavior, you view as troublesome. A narc doesn't. You, my friend, are not a narc.
Jan 29 - 9PM (Reply to #27)
ichooselife
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"the feelings you have in regards to your behavior, you view as

troublesome. A narc doesn't." Im really happy to see this, thankyou :)
Jan 29 - 6PM
Hunter
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This is a good site

http://gettinbetter.com/needlove.html
Jan 29 - 7PM (Reply to #24)
walking_on_sunshine
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An awesome read, just getting

An awesome read, just getting into it, its really loooong. What an insightful article though. Ive never seen childhood abuse or neglect effects better explained than they way she explains them.
Jan 30 - 11AM (Reply to #25)
Hunter
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WOS

Bookmark that site its a good one..not as good as ours but..teehee Hunter
Jan 29 - 1PM
gettinbetter
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Yep Hunter. Codependents are

Yep Hunter. Codependents are very similiar to narcs in that they seek attention and control. I will also when you have been involved with one of these freaks you start to become very self absorbed. Its a natural by product of having been with someone who is pathological. The reason codependents become so obsessed with these realtionships is control. Its the ultimate challenge of seeking control. A codependent will keep trying and trying at the expense of others to obtain control. Of course you really never can gain control of a narc and codependts go crazy trying. A narc and a true codependent are volitile combination as both seek attention and control.
Jan 29 - 8PM (Reply to #22)
IncognitoBurrito
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Thank You

You just put words to what I've been trying to explain to myself. The truth is great. It helps me heal.
Jan 29 - 6PM (Reply to #21)
walking_on_sunshine
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Do co-dependants seek

Do co-dependants seek attention? I honestly cant stand being the center of attention although when I was a teenager I may have, but as an adult no, I don't think so. I think co-dependants have a "habit" to control, that comes from growing up in situations that were out of control. I don't think codependents even know that they are doing it until they become aware of their codependency Narcissists on the other hand try to control others for their benefit, to obtain something self serving. They do control others to get something out it and they do know what they are doing because they are doing it consciously. Once again, different motives. Both come from the ego though. For the co-dependent he can recognize it as a dysfunctional annoying habit, but for the narcissist he sees it as a clever beneficial strength.
Jan 29 - 2PM (Reply to #20)
Snowflake
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Def of a Narc

As I understood was that they didnt feel the need to change because they had the trappings of a potentially successful life because they dont feel empathy. The fact you want to change means you are probably not. We all can prob answer yes to some symptoms... And I do think you can get into power games with an N ie trying to beat them at their own game...fuck I was the best N actor at times, difference was I knew empathy but I covered it with a fuck you attitude to score points many times x
Jan 29 - 1PM (Reply to #18)
Used
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gettinbetter

tho I agree with a lot of what you say.re co-dependant and narcs and control... I would agree that he is an attention seeker[I am not an attention seeker]...he was and still is, but me...no..
Jan 29 - 4PM (Reply to #19)
gettinbetter
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Used

Some codependents are introverted (non attention seeking) and some like me are extroverted. Sometimes Im not even aware that thats what I was doing but when I intropspect I can see that I was. but one the for sure for both is that its all about CONTROL
Jan 29 - 12PM
SoOverItNext
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I was 4 months nc....until

I was 4 months nc....until yesterday. I just woke up and I walk to the car to get some things I left in the car the night before.....who do I see waking up the drivewsy when I look my absolute worst?! Can you say...mortified!?!?! I was so disgusted that I looked so bad that I ran in, shut the door, and never came out. I sent our daughter out the door and never spoke to him. My wheels are spinning and I think om going crazy again! That quick!!! They have so much control.
Jan 29 - 12PM (Reply to #15)
Used
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THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT MUCH

THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT MUCH CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS ABOUT YOU GIVING HIM THE CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!! B/C YOU DIDNT LOOK GOOD...SO WHAT!!!!!!!!!!! YOU HAVENT BEEN OUT THE HOUSE SINCE... WHY...THIS IS JUST SILLY...
Jan 29 - 12PM (Reply to #16)
SoOverItNext
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I know!!!!! I feel so crazy!

I know!!!!! I feel so crazy!
Jan 29 - 12PM
SoOverItNext
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Ugh! Spell check has a mind

Ugh! Spell check has a mind of its own!
Jan 29 - 12PM (Reply to #13)
Used
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AND SO DO YOU...NARCS DO

AND SO DO YOU...NARCS DO NOT!!!!!!!!!!! IF THERE IS THINGS ABOUT YOURSELF YOU WANT TO CHANGE, THEN YOU CAN DO THAT....WE CAN ONLY CHANGE IF WE REALY WANT TO...SO IF YOU WANT TO YOU CAN...
Jan 29 - 12PM
Hunter
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Read on reverse narcissism or

Read on reverse narcissism or co dependent .. If you are aware of your faults you can alter them. Acknowledging issues is not narcissism . Hunter
Jan 29 - 8PM (Reply to #11)
ichooselife
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Thankyou Hunter!

I knew I'de find something comforting if I just kept reading :)
Jan 29 - 11AM
Used
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sooverit

IF you were a narc...would you be on this forum, lamenting the end of your r/s with him... Wouldnt you have moved on to someone else?....you make your self sound a pretty negative person... SO HOW ABOUT SAYING YOUR GOOD POINTS...
Jan 29 - 8PM (Reply to #9)
ichooselife
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"wouldnt you have moved on to someone else?"

good point. I never thought of that. (been wondering about myself lately)
Jan 29 - 12PM (Reply to #2)
SoOverItNext
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I cant think of any.

I cant think of any.
Jan 29 - 12PM (Reply to #3)
Used
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sooverit

you sound depressed... when depressed its hard to see the good and positive in one's self..... I believe you dont want to think of any good points b/c you have become so afraid and vulnerable...you are AFRAID TO PUT YOUR SELF OUT THERE ANYMORE.... SO YOU ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE YOURSELF YOU ARE A NARC..... SO HAVE NO FEELINGS...IT WILL NOT WORK...YOU ARE HAVING A BAD TIME, AND DON'T LIKE YOURSELF AT THE MOMENT....WHEN THE DEPRESSION LIFTS...YOU WILL BEGIN TO HAVE MORE POSITIVE THOUGHTS...
Jan 29 - 12PM (Reply to #4)
SoOverItNext
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I think I can agree with

I think I can agree with that. I font know whet to sk. Hr calls my family and friends.....over the past year, he probably spoke to me 2 weeks total if I add the times together. He wont let up! He wont leave me alone. Its still driving me crazy. I moved to New York and left my kids with my mom for about 8 weeks. It felt good. I just got back and immediately felt the anxiety I did before I left. I was totally happy, motivated and at ease there. Thinking about moving back with the kids and starting over.
Jan 29 - 8PM (Reply to #8)
ichooselife
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SoOverItNext

I too have been very worried from time to time (especially lately,) and even posted something just a couple days ago expressing worry that I might be a N...but between the responses that you got and the ones that I got, I'm noticing some main points. 1) If we are narcs, how come we are able to take a good honest look at ourselves? 2) Its common for victims of narcs (or co-dependants?) to have some of the same traits similar to N's 3) Another common response I'm seeing is posts asking why would we care, and why would this bother us if we were true narcs? When I first read your post, it put a scare in me because I can relate to quite a few things...but these people's responses make sense. Also, in this post of yours (right above this one), I notice that your N has a huge affect on you, as mine does. From what I see in my N, and other ones I've met and hear about, is that we are not significant enough to them to have that major affect that you and I are feeling over THEM. I think they are not deep enough to be that bothered. I hope you get to move to NY with your kids and start over! :) Thankyou for your very honest post, that takes guts. I think we will be okay someday.
Jan 29 - 12PM (Reply to #7)
walking_on_sunshine
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Sounds like a good idea no?

Sounds like a good idea no? Why not get on it?
Jan 29 - 12PM (Reply to #6)
Used
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I THINK THAT IS A PLAN... YOU

I THINK THAT IS A PLAN... YOU AND THE KIDS TO START OVER...
Jan 29 - 12PM (Reply to #5)
SoOverItNext
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To NY that is....

To NY that is....