He is drinking again - anyone else have Narc alcoholic?

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#1 Nov 22 - 6AM
sickandtiredofit
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He is drinking again - anyone else have Narc alcoholic?

When the poop hit the fan this summer he promised no more drinking. That was the deal breaker, right there. Before I knew about this site, before I knew he was a Narc, I thought he was just a drunk, which really is enough in itself. I think alcohol does bring out the Narciness is a lot of people. Helps them justify the crappy stuff they do. Anyway, he is back on the bottle, hiding it, avoiding me, and gas lighting. I told him I smelled whiskey on his breath, he said, "No." That is it - no.I am leaving, as I had said before, but I have to be very careful and covert and have my little duckie in a row, because there will be no mercy, and no going back in to get some of my stuff. He will have a rage fit of epic proportions and I am sure a bon fire to boot. I just need someone to hear me I guess, because NO ONe knows all of it. Only bits and pieces, as I stated before I tried to confide in some coworkers, and before I even got some bad stuff out one of the women said, "I would F'in kill myself if I had your life." Not the support I was looking for.

Nov 22 - 11AM
truthseeker
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satoi

Are you kidding, mine got a BWI and spent the night in jail. Lost his liscense as a result, probably still hasn't gottne it back. I had broken up with him that May. He blamed me for his BWI, because he was so upset he drank too much. First time I was ever at his house , next day when we were on jet skies he was going wasy too fast and being wreckless. He had been drinking water out of a water bottle all day. It wasn't until months into the relationship I picked up one of those bottles of water and smelled it. Not water. He used to drunk dial all the time and always deny he had been drinking. The best one though was him being in a total blackout and yelling at me for over an hour on Easter Sunday about how he was sure I'd had bigger dicks than his.
Nov 22 - 11AM
michele115 (not verified)
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Sick and tired of it

A book that I have been reading is Co-dependent No More...not sure if you've read it, but Alcohol dependency like any other addiction is very damaging to not only the addict but those around him or her. This is a lifetime disease. You need to get help for you. It's difficult, don't know what to say on this. I don't have the ability, strength or fortitude to fight this with my ex Narc... I have read over and over and over again that the addiction will win every time. I've had to accept that and move on...but other's have different journey's. I think you need to take a long hard look at whether or not this is where you want to be. All the best...
Nov 22 - 11AM (Reply to #17)
sickandtiredofit
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No other way

How many ways, how many times can I be told for both of theses issues - they are no-brainers, they are deal breakers - get out! I hear it loud and clear, cannot help him - he does not deserve it - I am no longer in denial, I know what I have to do.
Nov 22 - 7AM
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Hiya, yep my exN was an alcoholic though of course he always

denied it; claimed he could stop whenever he wanted. Or gaslighted like yours does - mine claiming I was imagining things when he'd come home ripping drunk or that he'd had only "one or two" beers & I was overreacting. And man did it make for some amazing fights - was like the drink gave him superhuman powers to argue about absolute nonsense for hours on end [even more so than usual!], blocking me in a room so I'd nowhere to go. And then waking up in morning like nothing had happened - seemed to really help that narc Lets Sweep It All Under Carpet technique. One of my favourites is a time before we lived together & he used to drop over to my house after being in the pub - one day I asked him to not drop over if he'd had a big night; didn't tell him not to go to pub, just asked him not to not knock on my door at 1am absolutely hammered. Even did it politely. He screamed at me that I was "trying to change him" & I had that thrown back at me for years afterwards! From what I've read its a common tie in with PDIs & an addiction of some sort. And one or the other is bad enough but both is pretty damn special. I'm sorry to hear you're suffering through all this crap & sorry you're not getting great support from people around you. Keep at it though sweets, getting your duckies in row, you will get there I can tell :) Ava xx

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Nov 22 - 8AM (Reply to #7)
sickandtiredofit
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Ava - much thanks

I am very prickily today. Not sure why. I am hypervigilant and on high alert. Makes me uneasy. I feel like something is coming my way. Not that I am clairvoyant or anything, I just feel something is not right and it makes me jumpy and anxious. He went into a pretend "detox" outpatient program - it was stupid acording to him. He could stop on his own, anytime. Right now I guess wasn't an option. I know it was the deal breaker, he knows it was the deal breaker, now that he broke the deal, now what?
Nov 22 - 8AM (Reply to #8)
Ava
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sickandtiredofit x Now you just keep focussing on yourself &

what you want & need & keep doing what you're doing - keep putting those ducks one next to the other. Keep doing it covertly & doing it just the way you need to make sure you can get as much of your stuff & you have as much planned as possible & to make sure you can get out without being in the storm of his rage fit. Keep being strong, you can do this. Even if its only small steps at a time, you can do it :) Is it possible that what you sense coming your way is the change in yourself, the fact that you are reaching the final straws, the deal breakers and that sometime soon things are going to change - that is you are finding the way to start making steps to get out. I don't know, it may sound wrong or just plain weird but maybe you're entering into high alert because you're preparing yourself to start pulling away from him? Does that make sense? I understand the feeling that a storm is coming, I really do & I'm not arguing with you that those feelings happen :) But maybe its more positive, maybe its a sign of you getting ready? Promise me though, promise me you'll be super careful? Ava xxo

Ava

Nov 22 - 8AM (Reply to #9)
sickandtiredofit
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Yes, Ava

If nothing else, I have always been super careful. One guy - really the only guy to ever dump me said, "You have been nothing but NICE." I said it over and over until I got it - Narc could have said it, but didn't, "You have been NOTHING but nice." I get it, it is true. I was too nice for too long.
Nov 22 - 9AM (Reply to #10)
Ava
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sickandtiredofit - promise me another thing?

That when you do have all your ducks in a row & you're walking out the door, take a moment to step aside, take out the biggest duck you have with the longest, sharpest beak....and ram it up his ass....NICE and hard. Ava :) xxo

Ava

Nov 22 - 9AM (Reply to #11)
sickandtiredofit
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hahaha Duck you,

Duck you, you duckin' Narc!
Nov 22 - 10PM (Reply to #15)
Ava
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Damn straight!

Duck you!! LMAO!! :) Ava xx

Ava

Nov 22 - 1PM (Reply to #12)
Briseis
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I have a couple of ducks who

I have a couple of ducks who would crawl up his ass and give him a new thing to think about the next time he sees a duck. I didn't give them the nickname "Bitey Dinosaurs" for no reason :)
Nov 23 - 6AM (Reply to #14)
sickandtiredofit
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Idaho? Breisis

Did you mention Idaho? I have lived in Jackson, Wy on and off during phases of my life. We went over the pass to go shopping in Idaho. Representing East Coast now.
Nov 22 - 10PM (Reply to #13)
Ava
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And now Bitey Dinosaurs!

LMAO even harder now!! :) Ava xx

Ava

Nov 22 - 7AM
desprathousewife
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sickandtiredofit

I feel so much for you. My ex husband who I was with for 18 years became an alcoholic. Thats when I fell out of love with him and eventually found the strength to leave. But to be with an alcoholic who is also a NARC must be doubly hellish. Stay strong and I look forward to the day your duckies are in a row and you can get out of that hellhole. Hugs and very best of luck xx
Nov 22 - 8AM (Reply to #5)
sickandtiredofit
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Thank you for listening and responding

I have never felt so alone... but it is ok... it is not that hopeless feeling I used to have
Nov 22 - 7AM
Susan32
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Co-morbidities

My Narc maternal grandfather was alcoholic. He belonged to AA. The ex-N coworker was alcoholic on top of being obese. He bragged about sobering up and losing weight... neither materialized. He talked about how he barely drank;pretty clear he'd come to work drunk. He didn't drive a car because of too many DUIs. The ex-P professor was assumed to be drunk. Early on, he said "I wish I didn't drink." There were rumors of him being a mean drunk. During the D&D, he was drinking lots of beer and wine. He got a belly over 4 years either because of (a)alcoholism or (b)eating lots of junk food or (c)both. Somehow, I went through the D&D sober, yet he was drinking heavily. There are non-N alcoholics who know they have a problem, but Narc-ism and alcoholism sometimes tend to be tied.
Nov 22 - 7AM
helldweller
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sickandtiredofit

Yes, my narc drank a bottle of vodka in one sitting, and what's worse, he made me drink, too. Literally poured it down my throat if I didn't want to. I told his family once that I thought it was making him suspicious and violent, and they all laughed at me. Suspicious and violent? Him? Don't be ridiculous! Yep, that's me: ridiculous. My ex husband, not a narc, has narc tendencies and they were unbearable when he was drunk. Jealousy, rage, resentment, and NO one understood him, that he was better than other people, smarter than everyone else, etc etc. I am so sorry you are going through this. When I married my ex, I didn't know he was a recovering alcoholic, and he never drank. He said he was a health nut and it wasn't part of his lifestyle. It was almost two years before he started drinking again, and BOY did he start drinking again.
Nov 22 - 7AM (Reply to #2)
sickandtiredofit
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Bottoms up...

Yep, he syaryed coming home with red wine, and he would only engage in conversation if I were drinking, so I did. I think he wanted me to drink so I would have guilt and shame he couldn't conjure for himself. Then, honest to God, I think he started telling people I was the one with the problem!I got wierd looks when we would go to parties if I had a drink in my hand. I would not be surprised! What I do not get is that he told quite a few people about not drinking the same people he is drinking with now. How does one explain that? I guess he will say I was overreacting, F her. Right?