He came back AGAIN. They always come back..... He disgusts me.

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#1 Oct 30 - 9PM
Monica
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He came back AGAIN. They always come back..... He disgusts me.

I haven't been here for many months because he was blocked and I was doing great and dating here and there and just taking care of ME. I had gotten to the point where I hardly even thought of him anymore and all the abuse I suffered was becoming a distant memory. Then...it happened. I had a dream about 2 weeks ago that he contacted me again. The dream freaked me out. But his cell is blocked, as is his email, and I got caller ID at work after he kept calling me there 2 months ago even though I warned him not to. Then I was heading out to meet a friend for dinner when a car like his passed by my house. I got chills. I could not see who was driving. Half an hour later....the calls and texts began. I had my cell on silent for dinner so I didn't get them when they came in and I did not recognize the number. When I discovered who it was, I immediately told him to not contact me anymore. Then the weirdness began. "I am reaching out to you out of friendship and want to know who you are" and when I didn't respond "Wow you are cold." It continued that evening (I was at my friend's house). He is obsessed with "who is your new beau?" and "what is your new beau's name?" and "when are you gettig married?" and "when did your new beau move in with you?" NONE of that is true....but I did not give him any information about my personal life whatsoever.

Then "have a drink with me" and "if not a drink, then dinner. I want to tell you what is going on with me." When I would not cooperate I was accused of being "angry." I blocked him as soon as I could get to a computer to do it. Before I did, I made it clear that I do not want him to contact me in any way....no texts, no calls to any of my phone numbers, no mail, no email, no coming to my house, no approaching me in public if he sees me. No contact whatsoever. I was a little frightened at this point and I wanted a record of my "rules" and that I spelled it out for him. Then I blocked.

I have had this cell number for years but now I think it is time to get a new one. On the upside, I have NO feelings left for him whatsoever, except disgust and wondering what I ever saw in him. His sickness came out in spades during those texts. He said he was "clueless" as to why I wanted nothing to do with him. WTF??? They are sick....and stupid. I WILL call the police if he shows up at my house.

So....they do come back. Even after months of NC. And they never heal, they never get better....they just get worse.

Nov 1 - 8AM
Syren66 (not verified)
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I'll give you a piece of

I'll give you a piece of advice when dealing with the police if you want them on your side and maximum effect. Stick to facts...do not diagnose the guy...that's really just opinion on your part as far as they are concerned and it only makes it look like you've got some axe to grind with him...cops do not want to get in the middle of a domestic dispute...they are there to secure the scene only...believe me, if he's psycho, they will figure it out all on their own...his past behavior (pertaining to the immediate matter at hand) is relevant to them...his present behavior is relevant to them...your personal opinion of him is not relevant to them. Try to stay calm and be respectful even when you disagree with them...hit 'em with logic, not emotions. Easier said than done, but these guys respect level-headed people and they are very responsive to folks who are not confrontational...they will also be much more eager to help in the future. Stay safe! Syren
Nov 1 - 12PM (Reply to #12)
Monica
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Thank you, Syren....great advice!

I don't expect he will show up at my house...he has political aspirations and pushing me will just put those at a dead halt. But, if he would show up, I appreciate your advice very much and will remember it!
Nov 1 - 11PM (Reply to #13)
Syren66 (not verified)
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Seven years with a big city

Seven years with a big city narc cop and hearing his take on domestic disputes...this is literally from the horse's (ass) mouth...political type eh? Narcissism is a job requirement for those hacks! *eye roll*
Oct 30 - 11PM
outOFtheFOG13
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persistent...

I am going through the same thing and I am sorry to hear what you are also dealing with. I blocked my ex N but he started contacting me from other phone numbers. I have been blocking them one by one. I had to listen to the messages because I feared they may be threatening in nature and I was right. He keeps insisting I speak with him to “end things like adults” and “stop playing games with him” and because I don’t respond, he says he will just show up at my house and pound on my door until I talk to him. He has come to my house several times - knocking on the door - putting items in my mailbox - sitting in the driveway. I had a PFA but it expired recently and the court could find no reason to extend the order. More disturbing are the messages where he acts as if we are still a couple and tells me to call him and let him know what time he should pick me up for dinner. The police claim they can’t arrest him for sitting in my driveway, knocking on the door or repeatedly driving past my home. I thought driving past repeatedly was stalking but police say I need to capture on camera or video. I am nervous taking my garbage out to the curb, let alone attempt to video record his drive-bys. The police advised me to tell the N to leave me alone. I wanted to hand them some literature on NPD but something tells me they would not be receptive. I did what they said and sent the N an email simply stating I want to be left alone and if he continues harassing me, I will call police. I want this person out of my life and I want to work on my recovery, but it is impossible when I am in constant fear. No contact gives me no relief because any minute, he could be lurking. I know I cannot change what the N does but I need to change my reaction to his intimidation.
Oct 31 - 11PM (Reply to #9)
Amiee
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Have you thought about

Have you thought about contacting your local womens' Domestic Violence organization and ask for their thelp with the police? Most of these organizations are part of the police task force and have strong relationships with law enforcement. All 50 states have a stalking laws and trespass laws. Documentation is key. They also told me to use my camera on phone bc it date stamps and record any contact.. seriously, I can't speak when he is sulking around let alone figure out my stupid phone. Stalking is unwanted contact after they have been told to leave you alone...Good Luck..
Nov 1 - 12AM (Reply to #10)
outOFtheFOG13
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I had not thought about

I had not thought about contacting a Domestic Violence org, but I will look into this option. I am glad I posted about this because I was afraid to initially. You have no idea how much I appreciate your suggestions, feedback and support. I cry when I feel the pain of all those harmed by these types of people and yet I am so grateful to find a place where I know I am not alone with what has happened. I am grateful more than anything.
Oct 30 - 11PM (Reply to #4)
Syren66 (not verified)
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Seriously?!!? The police are

Seriously?!!? The police are actually telling you this shit with a straight face?!? Ask them if their suggestion of you advising him to leave you alone would have worked for any of John Wayne Gacy's victims?...he was a psychopath too! Put it in terms that police can relate to. Oh and by the way, call and ask to speak with their shift commander and advise what you are being told. File a formal complaint if need be. If he is on your property and is unwelcome there, then THAT is stalking. Sitting in your driveway is trespassing. You pay taxes for police protection and they are being lazy, irresponsible slobs.
Oct 31 - 11AM (Reply to #6)
mystwoman
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Several years ago, I was

Several years ago, I was stalked by a neighbor that lived down the road from me (but within sight of my house). I'd had absolutely no relationship with him. He was a nut case psychopath that figured out I was a woman living alone. This creep kept showing up in my driveway, and walking around the fence line of my property at random times of day (frequently at 2 a.m., etc.). My dogs would start barking like crazy, and I would look out to see him. I was afraid he would eventually hurt or kill my dogs as he became more bold. My sleeping through the nights became a distant thing of the past. I would come home to find my answering machine filled with silent messages (he never spoke, just breathed into the phone). I owned horses, and frequently would arrive home after dark because of my commute from work. When I'd pull my car down the driveway, I would get out and see this jerk standing in his living room window (with the lights behind him so that I'd be sure to see his shadow - it was deliberate). If I turned the lights on inside my house when I arrived home, the answering machine would be filled when I came inside from feeding my horses. I was terrified to be outdoors after dark, long enough to feed my animals. On the weekends, I was afraid to go riding alone, and I carried a gun and pepper spray with me everywhere. This jerk ruined my quality of life to point that I finally sold my property and moved farther away (partially because I was stalked and partially to be closer to my work). The stalking went on for almost two years. I felt very "hunted", and knew it was probably only a matter of time until this jerk actually came onto my property and hurt/killed me. Being stalked is horrible way to live. I really feel for you. One of the things the police advised me to do was keep a written log of everything. Any phone calls...log it (whether he says anything or not does not matter, if you think it's him document it). Any appearances...log it. Any attempts he makes at contacting you...log it. Any suspicions you have of him being anywhere around...log it. They told me that keeping a log provides them with written proof that his behavior is not a "one off" incident. It shows that the turd has a history of this behavior. My advice to you would be to keep a log about the narc. Syren66 is correct. You pay taxes and the police are being lazy. Sitting in your driveway is trespassing. The narc knocking on your doors is trespassing. He is doing this to intimidate and upset you. Keep calling the police every time he comes near. File complaints. Voice to the police that he is a psychopath and you are afraid. All of this will support your need for a restraining order. Be very vocal and loud to everyone you know about what he's doing. The more people you tell, the more people will look out for you and notice if something should ever happen. You WANT people to miss you. There is protection in numbers. In addition, you might consider getting a gun and/or pepper spray, getting a big dog, installing a burglar alarm in your home, installing video cameras that record him sitting in your driveway or approaching your door, and taking self defense classes. All of these things can be very empowering, and help protect you. Be very loud about what you're doing to protect yourself. One of the goals is to be so much trouble for the narc that he finally decides you're not worth the effort. Do whatever it takes to protect and keep yourself safe. Trust your instincts. It's always better to error on the side of caution. Better to be safe than sorry. In my own case, the police took their sweet, slow time showing up at my house several times. Their excuse was they were "too busy" to come immediately. It sure was interesting to me exactly how fast the police decided to arrive when I called them about my neighbor, one time in the middle of the night, for standing by my fence watching my house. The police told me, "We'll get there as soon as we can, but we currently have several incidents that are 'higher' priority." I answered with, "Fine. I'll just shoot the son of bitch then. It's 3 a.m., I live alone, he's stalking me, and I'm terrified." The police were at my house within 10 minutes. Funny how those "priorities" changed. lol. I'm so sorry you're having to go through this. These psychopaths can be really scary, and their behavior gets way beyond old in a big, fat hurry. I know. I've been there. Huge hugs to you.

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Nov 1 - 8AM (Reply to #8)
Syren66 (not verified)
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Those are called stacked

Those are called stacked events...if more than one call comes in at one time, then 911 prioritizes the response of the police based on level of immediate danger...you changed the priority level by threatening to shoot the sob...LMAO! Good for you!
Oct 31 - 6PM (Reply to #7)
outOFtheFOG13
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psychological abuse...

That is so scary, and I am sorry you had to go through it. It is a horrible way to live. Sleepless nights. Every little sound or car passing by I am looking out the window. Fearful to be outside with my pets. My dogs could be barking at a chipmunk and I fly into panic mode. I tell friends and family to call before coming to my home so they don’t startle me. It is ridiculous. I am an independent person by nature, but this crap has reduced me to hermit-status. I rarely go out and almost never at night unless I have someone with me. The thought of him lurking around in the shadows is just enough to keep me home-bound. Funny you should mention your experience with the cops and saying you would shoot the guy and how fast the cops showed up. The response time of our state police is unacceptable at the least. A few months ago, the N was driving past the house repeatedly so I went to my neighbor’s home because I was nervous. A few minutes after the last drive by, my alarm was tripped and the police were dispatched. I waited over an hour and half for them to respond. The trooper said sorry it took a while to get here, I could not find your house. I was like “What??” The Fed Ex guy had no problem finding it but the state police can’t find me? I kept my composure. Next, he hears my dogs barking and when I assured him they are all friendly, he said he better not have them jumping all over him. Again, I kept my composure and mentioned they are crate-trained so they are not running loose at the moment. He made me feel like a total pain in the ass that he even had to be there. I gave him all the details of the drive-bys, the ex-Ns harassment, the stalking, etc. and was told to look into surveillance cameras. I told the trooper if he shows up again, “I will take matters into my own hands”. He replied “We don’t like to hear that kind of thing”. I was getting increasingly upset and I mentioned that since we have no local police force, and their response time is unacceptable, I don’t see any other choice. I can’t wait around, worried to death, and by the time the police get here, the N is gone and I get the brush off. My closing comment to him was “I am sure you are not accustomed to intimidation of this sort and the fear it causes in a person since you carry a firearm, you are 6ft 5in tall and are built like a brick-shithouse.” I just don’t think they take me seriously just because there have not been any physical altercations recently. I have been documenting every detail of this harassment. My neighbors are on alert as well. I keep hoping he will go away but I am not taking any chances. I am looking into the surveillance equipment, which is pricey, but not as expensive as having to relocate. I do have dogs, but the trouble is, they know him. I am seriously considering a firearm, as I keep other weapons on hand, but who wants to have to get that close. This is no way to live. I hope your situation was resolved when you moved, though it is so unfortunate that you had to do that. At least you are closer to your job and you are safe. Best wishes to you!!
Oct 31 - 12AM (Reply to #5)
outOFtheFOG13
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Thank you for the advice,

Thank you for the advice, because I seriously do not know what to do already. In the past, police responded to disturbances at my home but the N weaved his web of bullshit and they believed him, and did not arrest or cite him. He was finally arrested after he threatened me on voice-mail at my job. Initially, police said it was not a violation because it was not a physical threat. At the time the court had only granted a “no-hit” PFA (they felt the details of abuse I listed were not “all that severe”). I had to debate the verbiage in the PFA order with police, which states “defendant is directed to refrain from causing or attempting to cause physical injury to Plaintiff, placing Plaintiff in fear of bodily injury, from harassing and / or stalking Plaintiff.” Finally they arrested him and I was granted the NC PFA (now expired) I am in a catch 22. The PFA was not extended because I had nothing to prove violations. The police say no violation because I have no PFA order. To make matters worse, we do not have a local police force so we rely on the state. After repeated calls from the N I called again to report the harassment. The trooper took down the number the N called from and said he would get back to me. 4 days later, after several calls to the barracks, the trooper called to say he called the number I gave but no one answered, so he had nothing to report back to me. I was then advised they cover a large service area and that they have other issues to deal with. Sorry this is so long. I needed to vent and it is better than sitting here peeking out the window. Today has been quiet, no calls or anything. That should make me feel better, but from past experience, I know better than to think he gave up.
Oct 30 - 10PM
needing2know
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So sorry you had to go

So sorry you had to go through that again, but I guess it's tru, they come back and act like nothing ever happened. Stay safe and keep NC. they are clueless for sure.
Oct 30 - 10PM
Deidre40
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I'd seriously consider

I'd seriously consider getting a restraining order soon, if this keeps up. Dead dead serious. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.