Good book recommendations wanted

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#1 Aug 3 - 4PM
strongblackcoffee
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Good book recommendations wanted

Hello fellow survivors!

I am in search of some good books to read to help me in a variety of ways:

Dealing with the grief of the loss,
Understanding his disorder-narc and possible antisocial
Finding personal peace through the chaos
Moving on

All of your suggests both for AND AGAINST are most welcomed!

Thanks and
Peace!
Coffee

Aug 4 - 12AM
strivingforhealing (not verified)
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A Book for Moving On and getting the Love we deserve

This guy is a psychotherapist and he is brilliant! and he validates what kind of man I deserve and the ones I should stay far far away from! "How to be an Adult in Relationships" by David Richo. a must read for whoever has survived a N. relationship and wants to eventually open their heart to a WORTHY man/woman
Aug 3 - 8PM
strongblackcoffee
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Thanks all!

I am looking forward to lots of therapeutic reading based your recs! Peace! Coffee
Aug 3 - 7PM
Susan32
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Hooked on the classics

There was a great article somewhere about how the Great Books can be healing&helpful when dealing with NPD. ANYTHING by Sam Vaknin is helpful (his "Professor Narcissus" is basically a portrait of the ex-Psych prof) Now, some great literary works- "Anna Karenina" One can surmise that either Anna is a female Narc... or that she became a Narc over 7 years of narcissistic abuse from her cerebral Narc husband Alexei. Alexei is called a machine, that he has the soul of a bureaucrat. Reading this HELPED save my life during the final D&D. Chicago's own Oprah recommended it. And I agree. Constantine Levin is also a Narc, with his melodramatic courtship of Princess Kitty. It helps that Leo Tolstoy was a major Narc(???) "War and Peace" Prince Andrei is a cerebral Narc, Pierre might or might not be a Narc according to one's interpretation, Napoleon is definitely a Narc, as is Nicholas Rostov. Nicholas Rostov triangulates Princess Maria&Sonya... even after he's married. Prince Andrei emotionally abuses his pregnant wife Lisa, abandons Natasha, flees physical affection&has Daddy issues. Dolokhov&Anatole are psychopaths. It's a book full of Narcs. "Scarlet Letter" Set in the ex-P's home state of Massachusetts, no less, among the Puritans, who hypocritically condemn&project upon Hester Prynne. Her elderly husband, Chillingworth, is a cerebral Narc who abandons her (leading to her affair with Rev. Dimmesdale)... and is unforgiving, despite the fact she assumed he was dead. "Madame Bovary" She confuses real life with romance novels, takes two lovers, runs up debts, ends up killing herself. A histrionic female Narc. "Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures" Massachusetts' own Mary Baker Eddy shows the workings of a female cerebral Narc's mind in this seminal religious work. Disassociation, hatred of the body&anything that makes people "common",paranoia, projection... it's all here. Her chapter on Marriage is familiar to anyone who has dealt with Narcs' sexual issues. She blissfully speaks of a time when enlightened people will procreate asexually.
Aug 4 - 1PM (Reply to #12)
Susan32
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How "Anna Karenina" Saved My Life

Chicago's own Oprah chose "Anna Karenina" over "War and Peace"... and I don't blame her. The ex-Psych prof embodied Constantine Levin&Alexei Karenin... both Narcs (albeit Alexei, being older, is the more cerebral type) While the Levin/Kitty marriage is portrayed as a Christian, family happiness ideal... Levin does engage in triangulation (with Kitty&her sisters) and tho he idealizes the peasants, he finds marrying a peasant woman disgusting because of $$$. Kitty's money makes her attractive. And she's a princess! Levin looks upon Kitty as a child, not as an equal adult partner. What attracts him to her is her "childlike grace." But here's the closing speech of "Anna Karenina" by Constantine Levin. Levin has experienced his metaphysical epiphany-and decides NOT to share it with his wife Kitty. He has felt nothing for his baby son but pity&disgust;he's disappointed in his newborn. He feels NOTHING. So here's Levin's speech, it should sound familiar- "There will still be a wall between my soul's holy of holies and other people, even my wife I shall still blame for my own fears and repent of it. My reason will still not understand why I pray, but I shall still pray, and my life, my whole life, independently of anything that may happen to me, is every moment no longer meaningless as it was before, but has an unquestionable meaning of goodness with which I have the power to invest it." During the final D&D, the ex-P would say there was a wall between himself&I... just as Levin says there's even a wall of sorts between his wife&himself. It's the refusal to be vulnerable. Levin says he'll get angry&be afraid of his wife&BLAME her for it... and that's typical Narc behavior, isn't it? Levin of course believes that since he believes in goodness, it'll make him good. No desire for improvement, admitting his weaknesses or changing for the better. No wonder I compared the ex-P to Levin, who is, as Kitty tells her friend after they're married, "always alone."
Aug 3 - 6PM
allusedup
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The first book I read was,

The first book I read was, Narcisstic Lovers: How to cope, Recover and Move on by Cynthia Zayn and Kevin Dibble. I recommend it!!
Aug 4 - 12AM (Reply to #10)
strongerthanever
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Love this book! I'm on my

Love this book! I'm on my second read within 3 weeks. Chapters 1-3 was EXACTLY my relationship with N and his relationship patterns. I just read and say outloud, "Yep!" "For sure" "Exactly!"
Aug 3 - 6PM
rosedewittbukater
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2 of the best

I have come across: Narcissistic Lovers - Cynthia Zayn Help I'm in Love with a Narcissist - Steven Carter/Julia Sokul They were both excellent and reading the first one (Narcissistic Lovers) was like having my relationship read back to me. It features a handful of real life stories one in particular about a man named Robert was so much like my own story I could hardly believe what I was reading.
Aug 3 - 6PM
Littleone
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Puzzling people- the

Puzzling people- the labyrinth of the psychopath by Thomas sheridan - cannot recommend this book enough!
Aug 3 - 5PM
Beach Dreamer
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Go to YouTube

Go to You Tube and look up all these authors. Many of them have excellent videos to watch. I have spent hours watching them and they have helped me so much! BD
Aug 3 - 5PM
onwithmylife
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HiCoffee

Linda Martinez-Lewi, how to get rid of the Narc in your Life. Sam Vaknin's book Maliginant Self Love, he is a Narc, but tells it like it is, Thomas Sheridan's book Puzzling People and When he is Married to Mom, cannot remember the author. hope this helps!
Aug 3 - 4PM
coffeeaddict66
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Book I read

Hi Coffee, Like you I scrambled to find books to read to help me through this. There is one book I read called: How to Fall out of Love, I think the author is Deborah Phillips. You can get this book on Amazon.com for 6.99. Barnes and Noble had it in our local store. It is an older book and it is kind of odd but it describes strategies to change your mindset and associations. It was a different approach, hope this helps!
Aug 3 - 4PM
FINALLYFREE2BME
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Book suggestion

Besides Lisa's books, "Women Who Love Psychopaths" by Sandra Brown is a must read. It's one of the best books I've read on the subject.
Aug 3 - 7PM (Reply to #2)
rosedewittbukater
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women who love psychopaths

I just ordered this on Amazon cant wait for it to get here
Aug 4 - 3PM (Reply to #3)
peacelily76
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Books

I found "The Verbally Abusive Relationship" by Patricia Evans very good at unravelling the confusion I had over the strange arguments I had experienced, arguments that became deeply personal baiting events. I also recommend "The Manipulative Man" sorry can't remember the author but it details the PD types and introduces you to their traits. I also recommend Eat, Pray, Love by Elizabeth Gilbert as any 30-something woman's survival guide to getting your spirit and zest for life back. An inspiring book!